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diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:08 PM Mar 2013

How the Freak is my electric bill $100.00 a month?

When my wife and I lived in our old place Our electric bill was never more than $50 a month.

That is my wife cooking something in the electric stove Me playing an xbox with tv on and my wife having a TV on (for background noise) and working on a computer program all at the same time and we never seen a high electric bill like we have seen in this new place.

Our water is heated by electric and yes we have a couple extra rooms and we have a dishwasher BUT can all this make a $100.00 electric bill.

I really am wondering if this electric heater isn't just heating our apartment water I have to seriously wonder IF we are heating the water for the 2nd and 3rd floors.

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How the Freak is my electric bill $100.00 a month? (Original Post) diabeticman Mar 2013 OP
Yes it's your water heater. dkf Mar 2013 #1
and this is a new one. He says it is energy effecient. maybe I should have him lower the tempature diabeticman Mar 2013 #2
It's the water heater Aerows Mar 2013 #22
My parents got a solar water heater years ago and it makes a huge difference. dkf Mar 2013 #32
You can also try using an insulating blanket on it bhikkhu Mar 2013 #51
Isn't There A Way To Have It Checked Out? grilled onions Mar 2013 #3
I'd try the Electric Company Hekate Mar 2013 #37
i'd love to have a 100 buck electric bill arely staircase Mar 2013 #4
Me too TxDemChem Mar 2013 #14
ive had one as low as 135 this time of year arely staircase Mar 2013 #19
Me three Omaha Steve Mar 2013 #23
Same here. 840high Mar 2013 #40
I've never ever had a bill that low TorchTheWitch Mar 2013 #46
ya know? nt ecstatic Mar 2013 #41
A solar energy company told me that if our electric JDPriestly Mar 2013 #45
Do you know how to read an electric bill? oldhippie Mar 2013 #5
We never had electric water heater before or a dishwasher. diabeticman Mar 2013 #7
Air dry the dishes instead of letting the dishwasher dry them... Historic NY Mar 2013 #39
I have a portable dishwasher where I can turn that drying feature off, and we do that too. MADem Mar 2013 #53
ditch the dishwasher if it's just the two of you Skittles Mar 2013 #63
The useage seems to be more than at the old place. I'll be honest I don't understand the reading diabeticman Mar 2013 #10
I think there is your answer. oldhippie Mar 2013 #12
We lowered ours by turning the computers off when not in use nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #6
We only have the computer on when we are using it. Otherwise it is off. diabeticman Mar 2013 #13
You should be so lucky! Munificence Mar 2013 #8
$20 will get you a Kill-a-Watt meter that records energy usage. NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #9
our local library has kill-a-watts available for free, you check one out just like a book! unblock Mar 2013 #25
Fantastic, thanks! Funny thing-- Freepers resist energy efficiency programs.... NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #29
I would be happy to trade bills with you n/t doc03 Mar 2013 #11
I may sound like cry-baby BUT when my wife and I are on a tight budget and stuggling just to get by diabeticman Mar 2013 #17
All you can do is try to cut your KWHs. Get CFL bulbs, cut your water heater temperature doc03 Mar 2013 #24
First, remove the panels on your water heater Warpy Mar 2013 #15
you can put your water heater on a timer so it only heats the ThomThom Mar 2013 #16
Check your refrigerator, too. The old self-defrost models really draw a lot of power Hekate Mar 2013 #18
Mine was $205.00 two mos. ago...last month it was $160.00 Auntie Bush Mar 2013 #20
What my brother did Michigan-Arizona Mar 2013 #21
I'd have to ask the Landlord. diabeticman Mar 2013 #26
It must be all the hydroponics and grow lights in the garage. n/t Ian David Mar 2013 #27
No garage. diabeticman Mar 2013 #28
Do you have Gas too...if so what's the combined amount? pkdu Mar 2013 #30
Wish I knew what the combine would be. My wife has been calling the gas company demanding a diabeticman Mar 2013 #31
You really need both for a comparison...we have gas cooker and heating and pkdu Mar 2013 #48
If I had to use electirc in Jan/Feb I'd have $600+ electric bills. geckosfeet Mar 2013 #33
I'd love your bill and CokeMachine Mar 2013 #34
Electric clothes dryer? FarCenter Mar 2013 #35
Yeah BUT we had electric washer and dryer at the old place as well. diabeticman Mar 2013 #36
You should feel fortunate...we paid $410 last month and $370 this month. nt. OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #38
We lowered ours by putting a timer on the tsuki Mar 2013 #42
Can you shut off/turn on your water heater at will? blogslut Mar 2013 #43
You lucky dog. Mine is never less than $300 and sometimes up to The Second Stone Mar 2013 #44
Oh man! I feel small complaining about my bill. How do people live with such high bills? diabeticman Mar 2013 #47
Summer is tough. But I work in my home and need it cool The Second Stone Mar 2013 #54
If it is the water heater... moondust Mar 2013 #49
Lucky you: my last electric bill was $357.22. apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #50
I have a little holiday shack with a halfassed water heater--it is fairly new and in good condition. MADem Mar 2013 #52
Mine was $168 last month and that ohheckyeah Mar 2013 #55
I would be thrilled if my electric bill was $100 a month Blue_In_AK Mar 2013 #56
I think its the hot water heater Broken_Hero Mar 2013 #57
My water heater from the 1940's only makes about a $60 bill per month... JCMach1 Mar 2013 #58
Space heaters are guzzlers of electricity. David__77 Mar 2013 #59
TV's can be energy hogs Turbineguy Mar 2013 #60
Did you switch energy suppliers recently? PADemD Mar 2013 #61
Add your electric bill and gas bill from your old place together, TheManInTheMac Mar 2013 #62
Do you have a well? reteachinwi Mar 2013 #64

diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
2. and this is a new one. He says it is energy effecient. maybe I should have him lower the tempature
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:10 PM
Mar 2013

a little or that won't help the price.

Thank you for the quick answer.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
22. It's the water heater
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:29 PM
Mar 2013

and everything is more expensive. There is NO inflation, and NO Americans at the gates, either. The government says so. Food isn't more expensive, telecom isn't more expensive, and heating/cooling isn't more expensive.

It's just your imagination that prices have gone up 40%.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
32. My parents got a solar water heater years ago and it makes a huge difference.
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:51 PM
Mar 2013

Of course being in Hawaii helps so that they rarely have to turn the heater on. My sister's bill is twice my parent's bill as she doesn't have one.

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
51. You can also try using an insulating blanket on it
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 02:55 AM
Mar 2013

...which is cheap and can make a big difference, particularly if you wind up turning it off at night or putting it on a timer.

grilled onions

(1,957 posts)
3. Isn't There A Way To Have It Checked Out?
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:11 PM
Mar 2013

I remember reading about similar stories from renters and they had the city check out usage as well as what is connected to what or where and many times they found out that either one appliance was a utility hog or some shady neighbor was helping himself to their gas,electric or water.

Hekate

(90,727 posts)
37. I'd try the Electric Company
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 12:59 AM
Mar 2013

When I moved from a small apartment to a nicer one (in the early '70s) my electric bill shot up, so I called the folks who sent me the bill. The person I spoke to was very helpful: first thing she asked about was the fridge. Sure enough my old fridge was a small one with a minimal (and iced-up) freezer compartment, and the new one was big with a self-defrost feature. The second question she asked was about my ironing habits, which had not changed. She told me about a couple who took in their niece, and it turned out she was ironing her garments every morning before work instead of once a week all at once. Irons draw a lot of power too, and it cost a lot more to use the way she was doing it.

When none of your personal habits have changed, yet a utility bill shoots up, check with the utility company. They can often pinpoint the problem fairly easily.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
4. i'd love to have a 100 buck electric bill
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:11 PM
Mar 2013

that is because i have to air condition a home in texas. that said, if you have an unusual spike like that you cold be on to something. one thing to think about is looking into whether your provider offers average monthly billing.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
19. ive had one as low as 135 this time of year
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:26 PM
Mar 2013

i am not running any heat or ac right now because it is 50 degrees outside and i have a fire place, etc. but in the summer the mofo has gotten over four hundred bucks. and my house isn't very big. usual summer high bill is around 250 275.

Omaha Steve

(99,669 posts)
23. Me three
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:29 PM
Mar 2013

Level payment plan is $200 a month with a public (below average national cost) utility. That includes several $ a month voluntarily for GREEN energy.

We do have a 50 gallon electric water heater.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
46. I've never ever had a bill that low
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 01:27 AM
Mar 2013

The price also has a lot to do with what area you live in - live in a more expensive area, like everything else your electricity and natural gas will be higher. I know my landlord had bills a little over $100 not useing any heat and only running the refridgerator while my house was empty before I moved in.


JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
45. A solar energy company told me that if our electric
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 01:22 AM
Mar 2013

bill was $100 or more per month, solar panels would pay. You might check on if it you are in Texas and your bills are high in the summer when it is sunny a lot of the time.

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
5. Do you know how to read an electric bill?
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:14 PM
Mar 2013

How many kWHrs are you using now compared to before? What is the price per kWHr compared to before? Did you have an electric water heater before? They use a lot of electricity. Dishwashers can use a lot of electricity.

Personally, I would love to have a $100 electric bill.

diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
7. We never had electric water heater before or a dishwasher.
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:16 PM
Mar 2013

I think my wife and I are going to be struggling the whole year of our lease. We will be looking for a new place.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
39. Air dry the dishes instead of letting the dishwasher dry them...
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 01:05 AM
Mar 2013

I open the door and pull the racks out on mine its saves all that extra juice. Note I use mine every few days.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
53. I have a portable dishwasher where I can turn that drying feature off, and we do that too.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 03:03 AM
Mar 2013

Saves a fortune. Works just as good, throws a little moisture into the dry winter air, too.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
63. ditch the dishwasher if it's just the two of you
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 07:03 AM
Mar 2013

I live in an apartment and have compared my very low electric bill with other tenants whose bill is higher and the only difference we could find was the dishwasher - I have never used one

diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
10. The useage seems to be more than at the old place. I'll be honest I don't understand the reading
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:17 PM
Mar 2013

things but looking at an old bill and a new one yes we are using more.

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
12. I think there is your answer.
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:20 PM
Mar 2013

Modern conveniences require more energy. Energy costs money. It's a trade-off.
Good luck on trying to figure it out.

Munificence

(493 posts)
8. You should be so lucky!
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:16 PM
Mar 2013

I've seen mine hit $400 a month before. I do have 3 HVAC units along with 3 young kids that do not understand any concept about all those object and lights and the cost to run them.

I have even went to my 13 yr old daughters room upstairs to wake her up for school and found her sleeping in her closet due to it being to cold in her room. Went and looked at her thermostat and it was on 60! Asked her why it was there and she said "It was hot today"...asked her why she didn't turn it back down and she said it was easier last night to sleep in the closet (it's a big walk in closet, could be a room in itself).

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
9. $20 will get you a Kill-a-Watt meter that records energy usage.
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:17 PM
Mar 2013

Do NOT get the Kill-a-Watt EZ!

Get the regular one.

It will indicate that you x-box, if left in, is probably one of the major culprits in your life.

If your old place had gas water heat or central for the building, then your new system with electric water heat is costing you.

And, it IS possible that the plumbing is using your power to heat other unit's water, it's happened before, you need to check.

Good luck, maybe call your utility company and ask for a visit.

unblock

(52,267 posts)
25. our local library has kill-a-watts available for free, you check one out just like a book!
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:32 PM
Mar 2013

we did and found out the things to worry about. the biggest hog was leaving the computer on all the time. i now hibernate it when not using it.

the local electric company here will also give you a complete home energy audit for $75, which includes replacing all your light bulbs with compact fluorescent bulbs. it was way worth it just for the bulbs, nevermind all the little holes they plugged up.

it was pretty cool, they set up a big fan in the front doorway then go around the house feeling for drafts and plugging up and holes. we had lots of them in our unfinished basement.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
29. Fantastic, thanks! Funny thing-- Freepers resist energy efficiency programs....
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:40 PM
Mar 2013

....fools that they are.

diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
17. I may sound like cry-baby BUT when my wife and I are on a tight budget and stuggling just to get by
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:24 PM
Mar 2013

this is a hard bone to swallow. Maybe we got spoiled at our last place BUT it is something I am in culture shock.

doc03

(35,354 posts)
24. All you can do is try to cut your KWHs. Get CFL bulbs, cut your water heater temperature
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:30 PM
Mar 2013

back to 120º and shut of stuff you aren't using.

Warpy

(111,291 posts)
15. First, remove the panels on your water heater
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:23 PM
Mar 2013

One of them will be hiding a temperature control. Turn it down to "low," which will give you 120 degree water, hot enough for anything you'll want to do.

Do check the basement to see where the pipes are going, but electric water heaters at full temperature suck power like crazy.

ThomThom

(1,486 posts)
16. you can put your water heater on a timer so it only heats the
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:24 PM
Mar 2013

water right before you need it if you can maintain a regular water use schedule
keeping water heated can be expensive

Hekate

(90,727 posts)
18. Check your refrigerator, too. The old self-defrost models really draw a lot of power
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:24 PM
Mar 2013

If your fridge is new(er) that shouldn't be the problem. Call the Electric Company for a home evaluation, too. They may be able to sort it out for you fairly easily.

Good luck!

Michigan-Arizona

(762 posts)
21. What my brother did
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:28 PM
Mar 2013

My brother put a switch (like a light switch) on his electric hot water tank (on the wall, not on the tank). Hubby & I bought the place from him. We would turn it on for about 15 minutes before we wanted to shower or wash dishes. We maybe had it heating up water for 30 mins. a day. I loved it set up like that, only turn it on when you want to use it. It saved a ton off our bill.

diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
31. Wish I knew what the combine would be. My wife has been calling the gas company demanding a
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:47 PM
Mar 2013

bill to be sent to us and so far we haven't seen a bill since we moved in this place in late dec.

We had issues about the Gas company actually getting the gas put in to this place. They told the landlord it would be done by the 28th than told us it wouldn't be done until the 10th so we had arguements gallore.

But we haven't had a bill from the Gas company for 3 months.

pkdu

(3,977 posts)
48. You really need both for a comparison...we have gas cooker and heating and
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 02:20 AM
Mar 2013

Electric everything else...but you need to add both in one location to compare to both in another

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
33. If I had to use electirc in Jan/Feb I'd have $600+ electric bills.
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:52 PM
Mar 2013

Last one was $280.

My wood burning insert is fritzed. Getting it repaired next week. That or getting a new pellet burning insert.

 

CokeMachine

(1,018 posts)
34. I'd love your bill and
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 12:03 AM
Mar 2013

I live in one of the most expensive utility areas in the nation. I keep my heat at 63 when I'm home (55 otherwise) and my bill is still 25+ percent more than yours. I'm single so it's laundry once a week. Who still uses a dishwasher -- unless you have 2+ children. Waste of water and energy. Oh well some people have it good.

Take Care

blogslut

(38,004 posts)
43. Can you shut off/turn on your water heater at will?
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 01:16 AM
Mar 2013

I know it's a PITA but if you can do that you'll save a bunch of money.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
44. You lucky dog. Mine is never less than $300 and sometimes up to
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 01:18 AM
Mar 2013

$570. But I make up for it in not renting office space for my law practice.

diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
47. Oh man! I feel small complaining about my bill. How do people live with such high bills?
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 01:32 AM
Mar 2013

A 500 dollar bill is more than my rent.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
54. Summer is tough. But I work in my home and need it cool
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 03:39 AM
Mar 2013

and it is a lot less than renting a place to cool the house. California has tiered electrical charging. I pay several times the amount for the portions that are above normal usage. It truly sucks to live in California's Central Valley (I'm on the SF Bay edge) during the summer due to the outrageous tiered system.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
49. If it is the water heater...
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 02:47 AM
Mar 2013

and the water heater is in a location that can get cold, a water heater insulation blanket may help some and not be too expensive. Also, I have a tankless gas water heater that has a remote control unit which allows me to set the desired temperature. I've had it at 108 degrees for years which is sufficient for my uses but I don't use a dishwasher. Since your water heater is electric it should be possible to install a convenient on/off switch somewhere in the circuit, though that may require an electrician. Or if it uses a standard cord and plug you could place a small timer or remote control unit between the plug and the socket.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
52. I have a little holiday shack with a halfassed water heater--it is fairly new and in good condition.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 02:58 AM
Mar 2013

It's electric.

When I am up at the shack, it costs about a buck a day to keep that little water heater going.

If you're heating a few extra rooms that you don't use, and you don't need to heat them, and can turn off the heat, just do it. Close the rooms off in the winter months.

You do have cfl or led lights, yes? If you don't need the big oven, use a toaster oven--you can save a bit that way.

You could try turning the water heater power off after you take your morning showers, and see if the other tenants complain! Might be worth a try....

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
55. Mine was $168 last month and that
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 03:46 AM
Mar 2013

doesn't include heat. We use our propane fireplaces for heat most of the winter. I'm not even running a dishwasher. I don't know how two people could use that much in electricity.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
56. I would be thrilled if my electric bill was $100 a month
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 03:50 AM
Mar 2013

Ours runs about $150-160. Not to mention the gas bill which is a couple hundred bucks in the winter.

Broken_Hero

(59,305 posts)
57. I think its the hot water heater
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 03:51 AM
Mar 2013

they use a lot of juice, take a while to get your water up to temp. I learned my lesson with electric heat back in 2007. I kept a house on central heat at 65 degree's in the month of January in NE Oklahoma and my bill was 10 bucks shy of 300 bucks. I never thought electric heat would consume so much energy, but lesson learned.

I have a propane hot water heater because electric is more expensive to maintain, plus propane warms the water faster.

David__77

(23,423 posts)
59. Space heaters are guzzlers of electricity.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 04:02 AM
Mar 2013

I work in the energy efficiency industry and have used plug meters to test various things around my own home - space heaters even on the lowest setting are up toward 1,000 watts. Natural gas is so much better for heating - including water heating. Insulate if you can. I have no solution for my own apartment in a 110-year old building. If I owned it, I'd insulate, change the windows, and install a new gas furnace (if not central HVAC!).

Turbineguy

(37,355 posts)
60. TV's can be energy hogs
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 04:03 AM
Mar 2013

because they are left on for many hours per day. Also computers tend to create distorted loads, it's better to power them through a UPS. Electric ovens are heavy consumers. Does your dishwasher have an energy saver feature? Does your clothes dryer work on a timer or a sensor? Clean the condenser on the fridge. You also might want to check for grounds in plugs or appliances.

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
61. Did you switch energy suppliers recently?
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 06:22 AM
Mar 2013

In PA, we are allowed to choose energy suppliers even though we keep the same electric company.

Our electric company was charging a non-variable rate of $0.08/kwh; but an electricity supplier was charging a variable rate of $0.07/kwh, so I switched. Six months later in July when air conditioner use is high, I received an enormous electric bill. I called the electric supplier's customer service to find out why. Turns out that the $0.07/kwh was a teaser rate for the first six months. They were charging me a variable rate of $0.15/kwh; and, the month before, they charged $0.12/kwh.

If you have switched energy suppliers, be sure to check the rate you are being charged.

TheManInTheMac

(985 posts)
62. Add your electric bill and gas bill from your old place together,
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 06:37 AM
Mar 2013

and add them together in your new place and compare. You're probably coming out ahead.

 

reteachinwi

(579 posts)
64. Do you have a well?
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 08:26 AM
Mar 2013

Pumping water takes lots of energy. So does a refrigerator. New friges are way more efficient than the old ones if you are careful to limit size and buy Energy Star rated ones.

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