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Robb

(39,665 posts)
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:01 PM Mar 2013

Questions arise about Colorado House testimony on gun bill

DENVER -- A Colorado Springs man went before state lawmakers considering gun legislation with a riveting tale: How he lay wounded behind a pawn shop counter, squeezed off 13 rounds from his pistol to fend off robbers and owed his life to a high-capacity ammunition magazine.

Charles Robles' dramatic testimony on Feb. 12 was among the key moments in the House Judiciary Committee debate and helped persuade members to approve an amendment to increase the proposed limit on ammunition magazines from 10 rounds to 15.

But a witness to the shooting, news stories of the 2002 incident, an autopsy and a police report that quoted Robles' own account of the robbery in Tempe, Ariz., tell a very different story.

It's one that calls into question the key point he shared with lawmakers: That he needed all 13 rounds to save his life....

Read More: http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22742505/questions-arise-about-colorado-house-testimony-gun-bill


Pants on fire, and in testimony to legislators no less.
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Questions arise about Colorado House testimony on gun bill (Original Post) Robb Mar 2013 OP
This Sort Of Thing Always Grows In The Telling, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2013 #1
I'm no sort of expert. Robb Mar 2013 #2
I Doubt He Meets Standards For Perjury, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2013 #3
Fair enough. nt Robb Mar 2013 #5
Give Walter Mitty a popgun, and you would think he'd spend some practice time at the range apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #4

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
1. This Sort Of Thing Always Grows In The Telling, Sir
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:08 PM
Mar 2013

Fetishists' fantasies are not a good basis for law and public policy on implements of lethal force.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
2. I'm no sort of expert.
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:22 PM
Mar 2013

Are you aware of any penalty set for lying in such testimony? We're not talking exaggerating the size of the fish to bar mates, here.

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
3. I Doubt He Meets Standards For Perjury, Sir
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:30 PM
Mar 2013

Even an honest man can get things jumbled up in a situation like that, and memory re-arranges itself each time you recall a thing. He has been dining out on this for quite some time, it seems, so it probably is how he honestly does 'remember' the events by now; at least, that is the courteous assumption.

It is good he is getting hung out in public as a fabricator, certainly. People need to learn to take anything a gun fetishist says about using weapons in self-defense with several shakers worth of salt, and this will help drive that home.

apocalypsehow

(12,751 posts)
4. Give Walter Mitty a popgun, and you would think he'd spend some practice time at the range
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 12:11 AM
Mar 2013

so he wouldn't need (the now mythical, as it turns out) "13 rounds."

Now, it is understandable that in the heat of such a moment it's easy to get carried away, but aren't our "pro gun progressives"* always assuring us that the average "RKBA enthusiast" is a well-honed bullet-spraying machine, ready, willing and able to play the role of Free Lance Cop at the drop of a Red Dawn DVD?

If it turns out you're gonna need 13 rounds in a home/business defense situation, you best get on the horn to the FBI Hostage Rescue Team, not pull out your PRD and start blasting. Better yet, buy a shotgun: hard to miss with one of those. I should know: I own one.




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