Ignorant people are really starting to bum me out.
I have this bumper sticker on my car:
Some guy approached me about it in the parking lot of a market and asked me who was going to pay for it. I said everyone would and everyone would benefit. He said it would break the nation. I told him that was nonsense. He said he was eighty years old and from east Germany and he knew how awful it was. I said if he was eighty years old he is already using Medicare and everyone should have it. I asked him when he came from Germany. He said in 1952. I told him he should look what Germany is doing with health care today. He says he knows because the government isn't involved. Again I said that's nonsense. They have a system that is non-profit and run under government guidelines. He then walked away from me shaking his hand at me.
I shouted at him that if Medicare wasn't paying for his medical expenses that he probably couldn't afford the Mercedes he was driving but he wouldn't talk to me anymore. I was ready to go the distance with him to wear him down with facts, but this is what is wrong with old people today, they would rather listen to Hannity, and the rest of the distributors of disinformation than hear the truth.
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of military age during Nazi Germany if he is really 80 years old and came here in 1952.
Calm tone, aiming for non-condescending or mocking. But it's amazing the utter nontruths people in the general population bandy about casually. I never bring up politics in a business setting. But twice recently someone has casually mouthed off about one idiotic thing or another (the government can't provide good healthcare, Obama was "in control of Congress for two years!"
and I didn't let it go. Got some neutral vibes back, some positive, some negative.
I won't start it. But people need to understand the conservative "common wisdom" is simply false.
when it occured to me some posting in the porn forums are well over 60! 
like oh okay now I look silly..
I'm an old (over 60) white man and I've voted Democratic in every election since 1972. I'm only one of many, I come from possibly the most progressive generation there ever was. I was active in protesting for civil rights. I was doing weed in 1966. I got beat-up by cops in Chicago in 1968. I was in Washington D.C. for Occupy the October before last. I went to Berkley to Occupy the campus last year after the kids got beat up by the cops. Just saying, stereotypes are stereotypes and generalities are generalities.
ever use the term old white men. I did say "old people" and that's what I meant. They could be anyone. It's just that this old guy who wasn't even an American born person, and he was white, synthesized to me what was pissing me off. It's too bad he wasn't even a "born" American. It wasn't important to me where he came from. He just was what has been pissing me off in the community of the privileged I ended up living in, and I mean I ENDED UP HERE, by circumstance, not choice.
I had a few beatings back in the days myself in protests. So here's to you.
I haven't seen you post much lately or maybe I don't post where you do.
I deal with it everyday in my family and extended family on my wife's side. It's an epidemic in this country and along with this notion that "my ignorance is just as important as his facts so F off". They're eye's glaze over the simplest example and then they spout off and froth at the mouth.
I's an impenetrable wall and I am frankly tired of dealing with it.
Now I just make fun of them, its a laugh and it makes me feel better.
I'm open to any other options.
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hugs back at ya.
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he had started with me.
He bought them for 50 pesos, which is roughly about $4 US.
He insisted that they were scallops. They absolutely were not scallops.
Then his friend says, "In some places people have different names for things."
Yeah, ignorant people bum me out too; they're actually pretty scary in a way, IMO.
time ago. But there really aren't any clams anymore. 
So everyone got screwed.
