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Mercuryblues posted this thread. I clicked on the link and viewed the page with horror and sorrow and anger and fear all bundled up together.
Warning: this is not for the faint at heart:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022458908
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Domestic-Violence-Dont-make-me-tell-you-twice/438192542917753
It's been reported on and nothing has been done about it. It's a new page. I'm hoping that if we can mass report it, they'll take it down.
If you're a facebook member please go to facebook and report this.
mercuryblues
(14,537 posts)for helping to get more views.
cali
(114,904 posts)for bringing it to my attention and the attention of others.
They probably think they're edgy and ironic.
we can do it
(12,190 posts)What will it take?
MineralMan
(146,327 posts)I hope Facebook does the right thing, here.
dmr
(28,349 posts)This makes me ill.
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)Last edited Mon Mar 4, 2013, 07:58 PM - Edit history (2)
EDIT: The site is apparently some troll's mega-flamebait ego masturbation material.
What really is the right response to that? All the negative comments posted on fb are only helping the guy get off. Alerting on it is definitely the right thing to do, but I wonder if commenting isn't just counterproductive?
I don't know...I adore most of the women in my life (wife, daughters, friends and family members) and even those I don't adore I respect. If this troll (or trolls, more likely) is attempting some educational social commentary then it/he/they is failing excruciatingly badly; other than that, all he seems to be doing is advocating violence against women.
What should be done about that? Is this really a First Amendment issue?
jmg257
(11,996 posts)OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)LeftofObama
(4,243 posts)I'm not a Facebook member, but that just made me cringe. WTF is wrong with people!?
handmade34
(22,757 posts)reported
Texasgal
(17,047 posts)Sick.
Sissyk
(12,665 posts)Is that someone's page? That is sick, horrible.
Can you still report if you don't have facebook?
Sissyk
(12,665 posts)I will try that now.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Arcanetrance
(2,670 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)This page just defies explanation.
Alerting
bluedigger
(17,087 posts)mokawanis
(4,451 posts)Whoever put that page up should be ordered into psychological evaluation.
LeftishBrit
(41,209 posts)Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)Hell Hath No Fury
(16,327 posts)Clearly a troll, but that shit doesn't need to be there regardless.
Demoiselle
(6,787 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)I had actually been thinking about starting up on face book, but if it's this kind of sick shit hell no!
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)but the subject matter is, and I'll be generous, being wildly mishandled if some sort of social commentary is its goal.
renate
(13,776 posts)It seemed that it didn't exactly fall into any of the "violence" categories--technically, that is--that Facebook has so thoughtfully provided, which might be why it's still up, but I think it's pretty inarguably hate speech against somebody based on gender, which is one of Facebook's own categories.
I don't know whether other people have tried that too or just gone with reporting it as violence, which normal people would consider it to be. Sheesh. If there was a pro-lynching page, would they leave it up this long, too? I've been reading all day about how people have been reporting it, yet there it still is. Disgusting.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)I wasn't that happy with the choices so I went through them before settling on hate speech based on gender.
I'm guessing that people at Facebook want to do the right thing but the content is so nasty that this keeps getting kicked up to higher levels of support.
I hope so, anyway.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)It's appalling that FB will allow you to snitch on your friends if they have a naughty picture and they will have it taken down very swiftly, but something like this takes mass effort when it should be a no brainer.
Response to cali (Original post)
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Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Disgusting.
LittleGirl
(8,291 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)markpkessinger
(8,401 posts). . . I will report it when I get home, and will ask everyone I know to do the same! Disgusting!
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts)Can somebody else click on the link and let me know if that page is still up? I got home from work, went to the page, and then created a post on my timeline asking my friends to alert on it. Almost immediately, my post was taken down. It occurred to me that whoever owns the page probably saw my share of the link, and thus alerted on my post. Can anybody verify if the page is still up?
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)When I click on cali's link it takes me straight to my home page (I logged onto fb first).
EDIT: it also doesn't come up on fb search
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts)magellan
(13,257 posts)I can't find it now either! Huzzah!
Mysteriously, my post asking friends to report it is gone too...and so are their shares of my post. But hey, maybe this is mission accomplished!
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)I guess this is how fb scrubs their site?
In any case, mission accomplished indeed!
Still gotta wonder what that was all about, though... Troll flamebait, or what?
magellan
(13,257 posts)I suppose that makes sense - in an icky, intrusive way. But I'm glad it's gone.
What I gathered from a visit out there earlier was that the page was run by several people. The person monitoring it and replying at the time claimed to be a woman who had been abused. (I find that hard to believe.) "She" also claimed they did it "for the lulz". You know, do something heinous for attention, coz apparently it's a load of laughs when people get outraged about someone exploiting sensitive subjects like domestic violence.
"She" also found those threatening to have the page pulled by reporting it amusing, saying it wouldn't succeed.
I wonder if "she"/they are lulzing now!
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)the whole "men get abused by women too" thing had me wondering if it was some kind of social awareness attempt gone horribly awry...lulz, indeed.
I imagine the troll and its buddies are sitting around yucking it up now, and I can only hope that they are at least feeling the pain of being axed, insignificant as that pain probably is to them.
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)as part of their alert procedure.
Wonder if we'll get one?
magellan
(13,257 posts)Reporting that awful page spread like wildfire across fb! I know for certain a women's group that said it has 760 members hit it.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Hi,
Thanks for your recent report of a potential violation on Facebook. After reviewing your report, we were not able to confirm that the specific page you reported violates Facebook's Statement of Rights and Responsibilities.
Learn more about what we do and don't allow by reviewing the Facebook Community Standards:
They 'couldn't confirm' so it must have been down by then.
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)Not sure what it means. The link to the site no longer works. Are page owners able to hide their pages from anyone not listed as one of their friends?
magellan
(13,257 posts)...that's concealed from non-members and searches. But I think that has to be done from scratch, ie you can't convert a public page to a private group.
I don't think that's what happened since all our posts with links to the page vanished too. That's FB scrubbers at work.
I got the same email this morning. I'd be ticked off if I didn't already know that page was gone!
BuelahWitch
(9,083 posts)But glad to see the page is gone as well.
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)I just don't get FB allowing this
Lex
(34,108 posts)markpkessinger
(8,401 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)markpkessinger
(8,401 posts). . . Earlier, people who reported it received responses from FB saying the page did NOT violate their community standards. That is utterly incomprehensible to me.
Lex
(34,108 posts)because it was taken down.
intheflow
(28,498 posts)I clicked the fb link and it redirected to my regular newsfeed. Good work, DUers!
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Just goes to home page so I guess it has quite deservedly been struck down.
frogmarch
(12,158 posts)got this from Fb:
But it's been taken down? Good!
gollygee
(22,336 posts)but it's down and I guess that's the important thing.