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Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 01:47 AM Mar 2013

(D) Claire McCaskill: Here is info on my bill to cut Congressional pay during sequester.

Claire McCaskill ?@clairecmc

Here is info on my bill to cut Congressional pay during sequester. http://1.usa.gov/Z3lloA

http://mccaskill.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=1824

WASHINGTON - U.S. Senators Claire McCaskill and Bill Nelson will introduce legislation that would cut pay for members of Congress if federal employees are furloughed due to the sequester. The legislation calls for a reduction in Congressional salaries once federal furloughs begin.

"The federal workforce is looking at furloughs that would result in a sizeable pay cut-and there's absolutely no reason members of Congress should exempt themselves," McCaskill said. "We can and should reach a balanced compromise to replace these damaging across-the-board cuts, but until we do, this is an obvious step to hold Congress accountable for the job we need to get done."

The pending cuts are a result of the sequestration requirement Congress passed following debt-ceiling negotiations in 2011. The 2011 legislation required Congress to produce a bill with $1.2 trillion in deficit savings by this time or face across-the-board cuts -- via sequestration -- evenly divided between defense and non-defense spending. Sequestration was designed to be so unpopular that it would force Congress to compromise and replace it with a more sensible deficit reduction approach. But Congress has failed to pass a replacement. In the coming months, the first year of sequestration will begin. As a result of the cuts, many federal workers are expected to be subject to furloughs.

McCaskill has successfully prevented several individual yearly pay raises since arriving in the Senate, the most recent in March of 2012. Members of Congress have not received a pay raise since 2009.


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(D) Claire McCaskill: Here is info on my bill to cut Congressional pay during sequester. (Original Post) Fire Walk With Me Mar 2013 OP
Here Is My Proposal as Written In My Local Paper... rsmith6621 Mar 2013 #1
+100,000,000,000... Andy823 Mar 2013 #5
20% if they're not exempt mr1956 Mar 2013 #7
How do you get 20%? modrepub Mar 2013 #13
agencies face a 20% across the board cut magical thyme Mar 2013 #14
I know plenty of civilian DoD employees going on furlough every Friday tammywammy Mar 2013 #36
The email I got from Senator Nelson said Congress' pay cut would match the the highest paycut okwmember Mar 2013 #34
50% paycut, cancel all health/retirement bennies, remove all perks costing taxpayers..BUT... msongs Mar 2013 #2
Close Their Offices Down.... rsmith6621 Mar 2013 #3
Make it illegal for them to take cushy private-sector jobs from lobbyists after retiring. Fire Walk With Me Mar 2013 #4
How about they lose their govt pension if they take a lobby job? LiberalFighter Mar 2013 #26
That's good as well. If they can be cut off from $$$ distractions, it's all good. Fire Walk With Me Mar 2013 #27
I agree. That might be the ONLY thing that can really annabanana Mar 2013 #38
Well, that covers the days they aren't working, so... Frustratedlady Mar 2013 #8
True, but even the 1% hate to lose a single penny of THEIRS. In fact, they'd valerief Mar 2013 #9
Eliminate any perks. SCVDem Mar 2013 #6
Furlough day once a week Iliyah Mar 2013 #10
oh screw them cali Mar 2013 #11
Well, most senators, including her, will not care as they are wealthy. Mass Mar 2013 #12
But you just nailed the catch right there... beerandjesus Mar 2013 #43
Change their pay from salary to hourly. Hatchling Mar 2013 #15
Actually, that's a great idea . . AND bluelagoon Mar 2013 #37
For the lowest paid Congressional members the current year of working 126 days Thinkingabout Mar 2013 #39
Do not forget...NO OVERTIME!!! Moostache Mar 2013 #42
Sequester cuts proud2BlibKansan Mar 2013 #16
Pffffttt...meaningless gesture when the greater portion of their income is from graft. NorthCarolina Mar 2013 #17
They should "furlough" themselves by only getting paid the 124-6 days they've decided to work. ancianita Mar 2013 #18
Send in the US Marshals to put locks on all their doors. A LOCKOUT. The People will be dealt with. ancianita Mar 2013 #19
I propose They_Live Mar 2013 #20
Perhaps the good Senator should read the Constitution. former9thward Mar 2013 #21
Then we need an amendement that they should work more than 109 days a year. Fire Walk With Me Mar 2013 #23
It says SemperEadem Mar 2013 #29
Correct. former9thward Mar 2013 #32
Amendment 27 - Limiting Changes to Congressional Pay RC Mar 2013 #45
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2013 #22
Congress doesn't earn ANY pay at all.And should have to buy their own health insurance the way we do judesedit Mar 2013 #24
Her bill is not constitutional. LiberalFighter Mar 2013 #25
not only that SemperEadem Mar 2013 #28
It's just stupid grandstanding procon Mar 2013 #30
per diem oldandhappy Mar 2013 #31
now let's all collectively hold our breaths. nt Javaman Mar 2013 #33
^ Wilms Mar 2013 #35
and stop their health care too. NYtoBush-Drop Dead Mar 2013 #40
Good Going, Claire.. get it out there! Cha Mar 2013 #41
Cut? Suspend. Give them the option to earn it back, by working full weeks, after they get Thor_MN Mar 2013 #44
Called Senator blunt khan8 Mar 2013 #46
if they were serious that would have been part of sequestration Skittles Mar 2013 #47

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
5. +100,000,000,000...
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 02:57 AM
Mar 2013

I couldn't agree more. If they want everyone else to suffer, at least make them share in the cuts. While the cut in pay won't bother most of the "millionaires", the cuts in staff, travel expenses, housing, etc. would.

mr1956

(215 posts)
7. 20% if they're not exempt
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 03:11 AM
Mar 2013

As a federal worker I am facing a 20% pay cut between April and October if they don't get their act together. It's only fair they face the same.

modrepub

(3,503 posts)
13. How do you get 20%?
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 10:34 AM
Mar 2013

My agency is looking at roughly a 5% reduction in pay if the furloughs actually take place. Not that I don't disagree that Congress, the President and the Supreme Court should take the same pay cut as the rest of us.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
14. agencies face a 20% across the board cut
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 10:40 AM
Mar 2013

but are not directed exactly how to implement.

Your agency may be able to cut expenses elsewhere by closing open job requisitions, attrition, or cutting some other operating expenses.

Some are cutting the workweek to 4 days, which results in a 20% pay cut.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
36. I know plenty of civilian DoD employees going on furlough every Friday
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 08:14 PM
Mar 2013

Starting April until whenever. That's a 20% pay cut.

okwmember

(345 posts)
34. The email I got from Senator Nelson said Congress' pay cut would match the the highest paycut
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 06:16 PM
Mar 2013

received at any federal agency. So whichever agency reduced pay the most or furloughed workers resulting in the highest overall cut in pay, that would be the percentage of Congress' cut. He didn't actually link to the bill, that was just the way he summarized it.

msongs

(67,441 posts)
2. 50% paycut, cancel all health/retirement bennies, remove all perks costing taxpayers..BUT...
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 02:00 AM
Mar 2013

most of these people are millionaire members of the 1% so it won't matter much to any of them really

rsmith6621

(6,942 posts)
3. Close Their Offices Down....
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 02:04 AM
Mar 2013


...put drapes over the furniture. Force them to live in their respective houses of congress until they reach a DEAL... And this goes for any other budget issues that come up that are not resolved.
 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
4. Make it illegal for them to take cushy private-sector jobs from lobbyists after retiring.
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 02:24 AM
Mar 2013

THAT would screw them.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
8. Well, that covers the days they aren't working, so...
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 07:58 AM
Mar 2013

how much more are you going to cut for the sequester?

Pretty crazy, isn't it?

valerief

(53,235 posts)
9. True, but even the 1% hate to lose a single penny of THEIRS. In fact, they'd
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 09:58 AM
Mar 2013

shout the loudest against it.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
10. Furlough day once a week
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 10:15 AM
Mar 2013

Although congress doesn't work anyways at least for majority of the American people.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
11. oh screw them
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 10:18 AM
Mar 2013

It's total showboating They're both on the furthest reaches of the right in the party. this is just to pacify progressive constituents and means nothing.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
12. Well, most senators, including her, will not care as they are wealthy.
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 10:32 AM
Mar 2013

It may affect a few congresspeople, but those are not the one blocking the process, for the most part.

beerandjesus

(1,301 posts)
43. But you just nailed the catch right there...
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 09:15 AM
Mar 2013

The wealthiest member of the House? Darrell Issa. He's not going to care, and would likely get political mileage out of this. But I'd be willing to bet if we on DU took a poll of our favorite congressmen, and then determined which ones would be hardest hit by a stunt like this, we'd find a hell of a lot of overlap. You can bet you won't get to Eric Cantor or Mitch McConnell that way! If anything, we'll make it harder for the people we like to run for reelection and end up with even more intransigent plutocrats.

Yes, this is unconstitutional, but it's a bad idea too. Even if it does feel satisfying on a visceral level.

Hatchling

(2,323 posts)
15. Change their pay from salary to hourly.
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 10:59 AM
Mar 2013

Mayve they will stay in congress and work instead of going off on recess. That would be a cut in pay right there.

bluelagoon

(6 posts)
37. Actually, that's a great idea . . AND
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 08:30 PM
Mar 2013

tie said hourly rate to a number of metrics: GDP, unemployment, poverty rate, infant mortality, incarceration percentage (low is better - clarification needed for freepers), CO2 emissions, etc.

Let them operate under a pay for performance setup like many people have been doing for years.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
39. For the lowest paid Congressional members the current year of working 126 days
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 10:06 PM
Mar 2013

Is $173 per hour. Since there will be many voting against minimal wages let their salary go to the minimal wage level.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
17. Pffffttt...meaningless gesture when the greater portion of their income is from graft.
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 11:25 AM
Mar 2013

This would only impact the very few souls in Congress who are actually working on behalf of the people. Very few.

They_Live

(3,240 posts)
20. I propose
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 12:37 PM
Mar 2013

minimum wage and the removal of private money income from lobbyists.

I know. I know. But I can dream.

former9thward

(32,080 posts)
21. Perhaps the good Senator should read the Constitution.
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 01:27 PM
Mar 2013

The 27th amendment prohibits a reduction in pay for members of Congress.

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
23. Then we need an amendement that they should work more than 109 days a year.
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 01:44 PM
Mar 2013

And also, not work for wall street and not be able to take cushy private sector jobs after retiring.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
29. It says
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 03:53 PM
Mar 2013
No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.
 

RC

(25,592 posts)
45. Amendment 27 - Limiting Changes to Congressional Pay
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 09:46 AM
Mar 2013

No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.


Claire is from Missouri. In more normal times, she would be a Republican. Here, she appears sane in comparison,

judesedit

(4,443 posts)
24. Congress doesn't earn ANY pay at all.And should have to buy their own health insurance the way we do
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 02:44 PM
Mar 2013

Their pay should be reduced heavily. This do-nothing Congress is the worst in history. Vote to get the bums OUT of office asap.

LiberalFighter

(51,084 posts)
25. Her bill is not constitutional.
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 03:29 PM
Mar 2013

She can create legislation that prevents pay increases. But they will only take effect in the Congress after the legislation is passed.
She can create legislation to reduce their budgets and that can take effect immediately.
She can create legislation to increase the cost of meals in the cafeteria so congress members have to pay more.
She can create legislation to require that all restrooms in the capitol are shutdown between 9PM and 7:30AM so congressional members don't use facilities for free.
She can create legislation that shuts down the internet and tv access in the capitol during the same hours.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
28. not only that
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 03:49 PM
Mar 2013

but they cannot hold the lost pay in escrow until this debacle is resolved and then get a lump sum of the money that was withheld unless the rest of the federal workers get that exact same deal.

procon

(15,805 posts)
30. It's just stupid grandstanding
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 03:56 PM
Mar 2013

The Twenty-seventh Amendment prohibits a sitting congress from changing its own salary while it is in session, so even if it passes, nothing would change until the next term. House Republicans tried to pull the same stunt in January and it didn’t take long for journalists and academics to question the constitutionality of their bill... and here we go again.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
31. per diem
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 04:58 PM
Mar 2013

And having one person there to have them 'in session' does not count. Each person has to be there to get paid for that day.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
44. Cut? Suspend. Give them the option to earn it back, by working full weeks, after they get
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 09:43 AM
Mar 2013

it straighten out. Once they get it worked out, they can add days to the schedule to regain some of what they lost by not doing their jobs. If I spent weeks, much less months, with another programmer arguing about how to code something, I would be out of a job.

khan8

(11 posts)
46. Called Senator blunt
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 04:23 PM
Mar 2013

the other senator from Missouri. As soon as I read the article, I called. I plan on calling every day. Along with calling the white house.

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