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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 05:54 PM Mar 2013

It’s baaack, DUers! Time once again for your Friday Afternoon Challenge: Window Treatments!

Who did these “treatments”?

And please, no cheating...really, it is not cool here...

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It’s baaack, DUers! Time once again for your Friday Afternoon Challenge: Window Treatments! (Original Post) CTyankee Mar 2013 OP
You forgot the Bonus Question... pinboy3niner Mar 2013 #1
Now, THAT was a window treatment! CTyankee Mar 2013 #3
One of my favorite comedy skits lovemydog Mar 2013 #42
OMG! Aerows Mar 2013 #62
The first on looks M.C. Escherish, but I don't recognize it and I'm pretty familiar with his work. Scuba Mar 2013 #2
no, not Escher. wrong century... CTyankee Mar 2013 #6
So I'm off by hundreds of years. Figures. Scuba Mar 2013 #7
Escher doubtless studied the old masters as so many artists did. So you may have a very good CTyankee Mar 2013 #22
#1: Antonello da Messina - Saint Jerome in his Study pinboy3niner Mar 2013 #4
You got the St. Jerome hints in that painting I'll bet... CTyankee Mar 2013 #10
That detail certainly got my attention pinboy3niner Mar 2013 #12
Me, neither. I benefit from those who grew up in Roman Catholicism and knew the saints and CTyankee Mar 2013 #14
The red hat on the bench behind Jerome was another one... CTyankee Mar 2013 #19
Lion? that animal in the right side background? dixiegrrrrl Mar 2013 #34
Interesting! But I think in this painting it had to do with the lion and the thorn that St.Jerome CTyankee Mar 2013 #35
#1 looks very Escher to me --on edit-- oops ... I guess Escher studied da Messina... Hekate Mar 2013 #5
Scuba said the same thing...interesting. As you can see above it's really Early Renaissance. CTyankee Mar 2013 #9
#2 looks Gauguinish. nt longship Mar 2013 #8
um, kinda, but... CTyankee Mar 2013 #11
A couple of them look like Van Gogh? kentuck Mar 2013 #13
you are half right... CTyankee Mar 2013 #15
#2? kentuck Mar 2013 #18
this was a bit hard, tho...don't be too concerned. CTyankee Mar 2013 #36
#5 is van Gogh joeybee12 Mar 2013 #16
Yup, but when I first saw this it made me think of Matisse and the Fauvists... CTyankee Mar 2013 #17
van gogh was first and only thought... joeybee12 Mar 2013 #21
dang museums, they loan out the really good stuff all the time. I can't tell you the number of CTyankee Mar 2013 #24
I know... joeybee12 Mar 2013 #29
happened to me in Siracusa, Sicily...I had just finished a Master's degree where I had done an CTyankee Mar 2013 #30
I also go off-season...cheaper...but you encounter joeybee12 Mar 2013 #32
I know, DUH... but I was just rediscovering travel and so I was a newbie... CTyankee Mar 2013 #41
That Van Gogh Museum is so damn big! Three floors of Van Gogh! It made me literally cry and most CTyankee Mar 2013 #37
#2, Pierre Bonnard IcyPeas Mar 2013 #20
Ah yes...how nice it is...a lovely Bonnard..was it the face of his wife in the lower right? CTyankee Mar 2013 #23
Looked like Van Gogh's little room with the bed painting. kentuck Mar 2013 #25
that shade of yellow... CTyankee Mar 2013 #27
The second one has got to be Matisse. applegrove Mar 2013 #26
no, it is Bonnard...those impressionists, they "did" windows...but so did Matisse! CTyankee Mar 2013 #28
I would guess #6 is from a Dutch painter. Probably 17th century? RZM Mar 2013 #31
good guess... CTyankee Mar 2013 #38
last one reminds me of... William Hogarth dixiegrrrrl Mar 2013 #33
No Hogarth here... CTyankee Mar 2013 #39
#s 3, 4 and 6 not guessed! OH NO! CTyankee Mar 2013 #40
#6: Jan Steen - Rhetoricians at a Window pinboy3niner Mar 2013 #43
fun, isn't it? I just love this work, it is so lively and full of humor! CTyankee Mar 2013 #52
I got that #2 was Pierre Bonnard lovemydog Mar 2013 #44
Oh, thanks for that! I really want folks to research and learn about art as I have done because CTyankee Mar 2013 #48
Mary Cassatt? #3 NCarolinawoman Mar 2013 #45
it is not...it is Camille Monet, painted by her husband. But Cassat was a contemporary so you CTyankee Mar 2013 #54
Oh my word Aerows Mar 2013 #63
The depth and scope of art knowledge here at DU is impressive! I learn a lot too, both from CTyankee Mar 2013 #64
Is that Camille in the snow #4? countryjake Mar 2013 #46
Yes, it is lovely isn't it? I love the pose and the window...just a wonderful view... CTyankee Mar 2013 #49
The prospect of her out in the cold, looking back inside... countryjake Mar 2013 #51
It is that look, that disengagement or avoidance of the woman's real experience that caught me. CTyankee Mar 2013 #53
Is #4 Monet? #3 seems American to me ... kwassa Mar 2013 #47
#4 is Monet and you are correct that #3 is by an American artist...good for you! CTyankee Mar 2013 #50
6=Franz Hals elleng Mar 2013 #55
hey, nice to see you ellen! No, it isn't Hals. It was guessed, as Jan Steen! CTyankee Mar 2013 #56
Just saw that! elleng Mar 2013 #57
Here goes - kath Mar 2013 #58
You guessed right on 5. As you can see, 2 is Bonnard, 3 has not been guessed, 4 is Monet CTyankee Mar 2013 #61
These posts always intrigue me. DollarBillHines Mar 2013 #59
Same concept kwassa Mar 2013 #60
that is an interesting concept and one that bears introspection. So much of art criticism CTyankee Mar 2013 #67
#3: Frederick Childe Hassam - Easter Morning Portrait at a New York Window pinboy3niner Mar 2013 #65
Yep, I put up the answers earlier today...Hassam it is...guess you didn't see it... CTyankee Mar 2013 #66
I was looking at works by American impressionists pinboy3niner Mar 2013 #68
I feel better. I was guessing Hassam, too ... kwassa Mar 2013 #69
I like Hassam. I've read some critics who don't. I think one of them was John Updike, who CTyankee Mar 2013 #70
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
2. The first on looks M.C. Escherish, but I don't recognize it and I'm pretty familiar with his work.
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 06:08 PM
Mar 2013

Hmmmm.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
22. Escher doubtless studied the old masters as so many artists did. So you may have a very good
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 06:39 PM
Mar 2013

basis for your guess. Echoes from past artists are very common in modern art...all art, actually...Picasso looked to Delacroix and Manet, etc....

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
4. #1: Antonello da Messina - Saint Jerome in his Study
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 06:13 PM
Mar 2013
.... Antonello da Messina's 1475 painting of Saint Jerome in his Study epitomises the Renaissance dream. The fact is that the movement later named the Renaissance by historians was not just about art. It began in Italy as a passionate attempt to rediscover and truly understand the works of ancient Greek and Roman authors. Antonello's painting captures the excitement of this intellectual rebirth: it celebrates the life of the mind, as a scholar sits in a fantastic library, thinking calm and beautiful thoughts.

It was said that Antonello travelled to Flanders from southern Italy and learned oil painting directly from Van Eyck. You can certainly see how he shares that almost mystical sense of light. Look into the cloistered depths of Jerome's study and the misty shadows that caress objects make you pinch yourself. What Italian Renaissance art adds is the intellectual ambition to make complex statements about the world: Antonello's painting is a manifesto for books and discovery. As such, it illuminates the culture in which Leonardo – who was apprenticed as an artist in childhood and never went to university – started to compile notebooks stuffed with his research into every aspect of nature.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2011/nov/02/love-leonardo-national-gallery-permanent-collection

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
12. That detail certainly got my attention
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 06:24 PM
Mar 2013

I'm not well-versed in the saints, though, so any hints were over my head.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
14. Me, neither. I benefit from those who grew up in Roman Catholicism and knew the saints and
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 06:26 PM
Mar 2013

their attributes very well. So I have to get up to speed in reading commentary about the paintings of saints from (mostly) the Renaissance era.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
19. The red hat on the bench behind Jerome was another one...
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 06:34 PM
Mar 2013

Interesting, St. Jerome, IIRC, was really not a "cardinal." He just somehow magically became one in church lore, then in the art, voila!

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
34. Lion? that animal in the right side background?
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 07:41 PM
Mar 2013

It reminded me of a water spaniel, so I looked it up, and found this:

History of Bichon Frise

By the 1300's, Italy had become a center of trade and commerce and, with the advent of the
Renaissance, began a period of exploration. Now it was the Italian sailors who returned the
Bichon to the continent. In Italy, the Bichon Tenerife attracted the attention of nobility and the
new middle class of merchants. The dog was often groomed in the lion style, which was then
a popular trim,
but he should not be confused with the Little Lion Dog (Lowchen). Late in the
1400's, as the French became enamoured of Italian culture, France invaded Italy, and the
Italian influence spread north. Italian artists and scholars went north to serve in the French
courts and, no doubt, carried along favorite pets.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
35. Interesting! But I think in this painting it had to do with the lion and the thorn that St.Jerome
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 08:09 PM
Mar 2013

took out of his paw.

Lions have a really heroic look, so it is no wonder that the Bishon Frise was fashioned after it. It shows how fashion shapes so much stuff...

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
5. #1 looks very Escher to me --on edit-- oops ... I guess Escher studied da Messina...
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 06:13 PM
Mar 2013

... before he started da messin' with perspective!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
9. Scuba said the same thing...interesting. As you can see above it's really Early Renaissance.
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 06:16 PM
Mar 2013

wow, I've gotta get more into Escher...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
17. Yup, but when I first saw this it made me think of Matisse and the Fauvists...
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 06:31 PM
Mar 2013

If it weren't for the fact that I saw it in the Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam, I woulda guessed maybe Derain...

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
21. van gogh was first and only thought...
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 06:38 PM
Mar 2013

I've been to that musuem, but I don't recall this piece...it's been quite some time, though.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
24. dang museums, they loan out the really good stuff all the time. I can't tell you the number of
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 06:42 PM
Mar 2013

great paintings I have wanted to see only to find out they are "on loan" elsewhere. it happens ALL the time...

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
29. I know...
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 06:53 PM
Mar 2013

And it stinks when you get all the way to Europe and find out what you really wanted to see is elsewhere!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
30. happened to me in Siracusa, Sicily...I had just finished a Master's degree where I had done an
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 07:03 PM
Mar 2013

independent study on Caravaggio and my favorite work of his was "burial of st. lucy" which is in the Siricusa art museum usually, but the damn museum was closed for renovation and the painting had been sent to Florence for restoration...I didn't realize at the time that this was pretty common! Of course, I WAS there at the off season so what should I expect

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
32. I also go off-season...cheaper...but you encounter
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 07:13 PM
Mar 2013

problems like you did...it's slow so that's when renovations, etc. are done.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
41. I know, DUH... but I was just rediscovering travel and so I was a newbie...
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 08:35 PM
Mar 2013

now I know, it is just what happens.

Go to the website of the museum you want to visit and see what they will be doing and what might not be available.

Right now, for instance, listen up New York City area folks: Girl with Pearl Earring will be at the Frick in NYC in Oct., 2013! And plan on getting your reservations early! Do NOT plan on seeing it at the Mauritshaus (its permanent home) in the Hague until 2014 as the Mauritshaus will be closed for renovation!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
37. That Van Gogh Museum is so damn big! Three floors of Van Gogh! It made me literally cry and most
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 08:13 PM
Mar 2013

art lovers would, too. It was intense...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
23. Ah yes...how nice it is...a lovely Bonnard..was it the face of his wife in the lower right?
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 06:40 PM
Mar 2013

She was so prominent in so many of his paintings...in and out of the bathtub (she had an unfortunate skin problem and sought constant baths to soothe it). So we get to know her face so well...sad, really...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
28. no, it is Bonnard...those impressionists, they "did" windows...but so did Matisse!
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 06:47 PM
Mar 2013

I can see how you got there...interesting...

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
43. #6: Jan Steen - Rhetoricians at a Window
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 08:48 PM
Mar 2013
In 1945, Sturla Gudlaugsson, a specialist in Dutch seventeenth-century painting and iconography and Director of the Netherlands Institute for Art History and the Mauritshuis in The Hague, wrote The Comedians in the work of Jan Steen and his Contemporaries, which revealed that a major influence on Jan Steen's work was the guild of the Rhetoricians or Rederijkers and their theatrical endeavors.

It is often suggested that Jan Steen’s paintings are a realistic portrayal of Dutch 17th century life. However not everything he did was a purely realistic representation of his day-to-day environment. Many of his scenes contain idyllic and bucolic fantasies and a declamatory emphasis redolent of theater.[3]

Jan Steen's connection to theater is easily verifiable through his connection to the Rederijkers. There are two kinds of evidence for this connection. First, Jan Steen Steen's uncle belonged to the Rhetoricians in Leiden, where Steen was born and lived a substantial part of his life. Second, Jan Steen has portrayed many scenes from the lives of the Rederijkers. An example would be the painting Rhetoricians at a Window of 1662–66 that is now in the Philadelphia Museum of Art. What seems to prove Jan Steen’s connection with the Rederijkers is not just that he painted them but rather how he did so. The humanity, humor and optimism of the figures suggest that Jan Steen knew these men well, and wanted to portray them positively.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Steen


CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
52. fun, isn't it? I just love this work, it is so lively and full of humor!
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 09:23 PM
Mar 2013

I was in Leiden and I must say it was the worst place in the Netherlands I visited...I was told it was because there was a severe housing crisis but it was a downer since the university was there and had been for several centuries...that wasn't good!

Oh, well, the rest of the Netherlands was great and wonderful...

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
44. I got that #2 was Pierre Bonnard
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 08:52 PM
Mar 2013

and was going to guess it here, till I read someone beat me to it. I also guessed #5 was Van Gogh, though I wasn't confident enough about it to guess it. I can't guess the others, but will avidly check back, as I love learning art history and these are beautiful paintings.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
48. Oh, thanks for that! I really want folks to research and learn about art as I have done because
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 09:15 PM
Mar 2013

as you have said, it is how we all learn...

The Van Gogh was a real challenge because I also thought it might not be a Van Gogh due to its fauvist coloring. And those stripes made it look more Matisse...what to do?

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
54. it is not...it is Camille Monet, painted by her husband. But Cassat was a contemporary so you
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 09:31 PM
Mar 2013

have the right era...the Impressionists...

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
63. Oh my word
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 11:51 AM
Mar 2013

Do you mean to tell me I actually thought about one of them and got it? Wow, this is the first time I've had a guess that was right, and of course, I kept it to myself (though I did come to this thread very late).

It's neat how much I learn from these threads you post, CTyankee - I really enjoy learning from them . Yay, finally!

EDIT: Oh crap, no I didn't LOL. Oh well. I'll try again next week

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
64. The depth and scope of art knowledge here at DU is impressive! I learn a lot too, both from
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:01 PM
Mar 2013

doing research for each Challenge and from the information given me by DUers who participate every week. I have to read art books constantly to keep up! But since I am retired and I love art, it's a welcome chore! And I meet such nice people!

See you next week...

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
46. Is that Camille in the snow #4?
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 09:11 PM
Mar 2013

I'll not say further, cause I'm pretty sure I know who painted this (he's one of my favorites).

Love your selections this week!

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
51. The prospect of her out in the cold, looking back inside...
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 09:23 PM
Mar 2013

fleetingly, is what gets me about this one. Of all the paintings that he did with her image represented by some anonymous woman, hardly identified, this is the one that bears her name. The reasons and analysis of this work are sad, to me.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
53. It is that look, that disengagement or avoidance of the woman's real experience that caught me.
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 09:29 PM
Mar 2013

Monet must have been something of a bastard if this is what he thought of Camille...

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
47. Is #4 Monet? #3 seems American to me ...
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 09:15 PM
Mar 2013

though I definitely don't recognize the artist it appears to be early 20th century ... very impressionist oriented.

elleng

(130,972 posts)
55. 6=Franz Hals
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 09:32 PM
Mar 2013

Don't know nuttin else, just got here, and HAPPY to see it/you!



OOPS, got it wrong I guess, but anyway!!!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
56. hey, nice to see you ellen! No, it isn't Hals. It was guessed, as Jan Steen!
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 09:35 PM
Mar 2013

Had to be one of those "dutch guys" , right? ...heh heh...

kath

(10,565 posts)
58. Here goes -
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 10:13 PM
Mar 2013

Typing this up without reading others’ responses (did it as a separate document so I wouldn’t scroll down and see others’ responses). It’s been a VERY long time since I took those 2 quarters of Art History 101 (and fairly long since I’ve been to an art museum), but I’ll give it a shot.
First one looks like Renaissance period, but not sure of the painter. Brunelleschi popped into my head, but he was mostly an architect, no? Then again, it has that Dutch/Flemish Renaissance look about it…

2) Van Gogh?
3)First thought was Renoir or Degas, but something about the colors makes me think of Gauguin…
4)Don’t know – Picasso maybe, or early Van Gogh?
5) Van Gogh?
6) Rembrandt?


That was fun! Thanks for doing this.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
61. You guessed right on 5. As you can see, 2 is Bonnard, 3 has not been guessed, 4 is Monet
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:24 AM
Mar 2013

and 6 is Jan Steen.

I see folks are stuck on 3. It is an American artist, not known for interiors. I found the colors unusual, too...not sure what he was trying for...American and I think this was probably New York, one of his two favorite places to paint.

#1 is Early Renaissance. I am fascinated by this interior, the sheer minutiae of it and the perspective of the rooms and windows in the background. And I love the little steps. How much I wonder is this actual and how much the artist's fancy? I don't know anything else by him but this is a real treasure. It is in the National Gallery in London...

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
59. These posts always intrigue me.
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 11:18 PM
Mar 2013

I split my time between the Bay area and NYC, and I spend a lot of time in museums and galleries. I love art, but I do not care who makes it. There is no singular artist who interests me, in the least.

But I absolutely appreciate the depth of knowledge shown in the replies to your Friday Challenges.

That being said, I can tell the difference between Mississippi Fred McDowell and Son House in a matter of seconds.

Thanks for all of your research and work.
DBH

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
60. Same concept
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 11:47 PM
Mar 2013

just as every good guitar player has a distinctive sound of their own, every good artist has their distinct artistic look.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
67. that is an interesting concept and one that bears introspection. So much of art criticism
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 08:42 PM
Mar 2013

seems to be focused on how artists were "shaped" by former artists. Is this a worthwhile thing to study? Should we care?

I, for one, LOVE the criticism that will mention forbears, because then I can go back and look at the original and see what they are talking about. I am fascinated by the way the artist found his/her way to their creation from the past. AND I am interested in the social history that tracks both the artists and their time in history. I find it extraordinarily interesting...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
66. Yep, I put up the answers earlier today...Hassam it is...guess you didn't see it...
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 08:31 PM
Mar 2013

what method did you use to find it?

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
68. I was looking at works by American impressionists
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 08:54 PM
Mar 2013

And some of his works struck me as similar to #3--and some used a red-haired model (perhaps the same one). So I focused on him and found the painting, which apparently was one of his 'window' series.

I'm glad I didn't see the answers, as it was fun and interesting doing the searches and learning more about Hassam. His wiki page is especially informative. But I did a double-take when I saw this image there:


The Avenue in the Rain by Childe Hassam on the wall of Oval Office, 2009.

It turns out that that painting, one of Hassam's 'Flag' series, has hung in the White House since the Kennedy Administration.


The Avenue in the Rain, oil on canvas, 1917. The White House


Thanks for another great challenge, CTyankee! (And props to Carol Burnett and Bob Mackey for the "Bonus Question." )

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
69. I feel better. I was guessing Hassam, too ...
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 08:58 PM
Mar 2013

but I then went looking for it and couldn't find it. Saw lots of other Hassam, including the flag picture. Looked at lots of Ashcan school stuff and American impressionists.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
70. I like Hassam. I've read some critics who don't. I think one of them was John Updike, who
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 03:13 AM
Mar 2013

wrote a fair amount of art criticism, for The New Yorker (now in a book of his collected reviews). Now here I hope I am not getting him confused with the current New Yorker art critic, Peter Schjeldahl who also has his columns in a collected work. Something about Hassam's "unfinished" look...

I also love the Ashcan school. I've used a fair amount of it for past Challenges. Really interesting Americana...

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