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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 02:51 AM Mar 2013

GOP Pushing Generational Warfare - Dividing Young And Old Over Social Security -

The young being told that selfish seniors are stealing your money and leaving you in poverty. I have noticed a number of young men calling our talk radio insisting we are spending too much money and that cuts need to be made. I have also noticed younger people saying that they will not get their Social Security or Medicare. Why bother to keep it? The GOP is deliberately conflating the spending cuts and Social Security and Medicare.

A lot of younger workers are unemployed and only finding low paying jobs right now. Many are in debt and are getting desperate.

The GOP is apparently telling the younger generation that senior programs need to be cut. The underlying meme is that Social Security and Medicare are welfare for seniors. Even when I have explained that they are being lied to it seems to have little effect.

The GOP is on a massive effort right now to fracture this country in every possible direction.

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ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
1. They've been saying that its a Ponzi scheme ever since SS was started.
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 02:57 AM
Mar 2013

They GOP voted against SS and have tried to destroy it ever since. Theyve been scaremongering about it since it passed. We have a $2.7 trillion surplus in the SS trust fund and the surplus will disappear in 30 years at which time it will go on a pay as you go basis like it did til 1986 when Reagan DOUBLED the payroll tax.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
2. The Problem Is That Young People Are Buying Into The Lies -
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 03:01 AM
Mar 2013

I have run into or overheard younger people accepting the idea that they will not get any benefits and say they no longer want to pay the taxes. The GOP is creating a very serious situation by lying like they do. They are really doubling down on generational resentment.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
4. People have ALWAYS said "SS wont be there when I/we retire"...but it may be getting worse now.
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 03:18 AM
Mar 2013

And its always been a popular sales tactic for stockbrokers etc. To get you to invest with them.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
8. It's not a lie
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 06:19 AM
Mar 2013

Current recipients have already voted to reduce and delay the benefits their kids and grandkids will get. In any case, considering what today's seniors inherited and what they have done with it, young people have every right to be angry.

As for Social Security, it comes down to this: if chained CPI passes Social Security will be gone within twenty five years. That's the point of chained CPI, it makes the program worthless down the road. The Washington elite believe that today's seniors will willingly destroy social security for their kids and grandkids so long as their own social security remains intact. But I believe that once younger people understand what Chained CPI does there will be a massive push to pull the plug immediately. And why not? At that point there will be no reason to pay into the program.

Republicans will be quick to point that out and play on it.


msongs

(67,413 posts)
5. too bad the democrats are going along with the republicans by not demanding SS be made
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 03:20 AM
Mar 2013

better and more secure

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
6. Young people understand the debts they are being saddled with.
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 04:03 AM
Mar 2013

Why shouldn't they be upset? This is why I assume I won't get 100% of what was promised. I don't think young people will put up with it.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
11. I saw this coming a while ago......
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 03:35 PM
Mar 2013

It's part of the divide and conquer strategy that the ruling class has used for ages. Confiscate the wealth from the ones who have the money and divide it among the rest of us. That's the only way out of this manufactured crisis.

 

I Cant Dance

(42 posts)
12. Starve the Beast
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 03:40 PM
Mar 2013

1. Republicans approve spending that is greater than tax revenues.
2. Then they bitch about fiscal responsibility when they are out of power.
3. Then they attack old people for our fiscal problems.

They have been doing this for years.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
13. So is the White House, and other Third Way Democrats.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 03:46 PM
Mar 2013

That's essentially what Chained CPI is all about.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
14. Looks Like Third Way Replaced DLC. Different Name Same Results
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 04:49 PM
Mar 2013

It is bothersome to see chained CPI. That is a GOP idea when you analyze it. It is buying into the meme that you cannot reform Social Security or Medicare with other adjustments that includes revenue enhancement and waste control.

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