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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy The Arab World Needs a New Wave of Feminism -- and Who Could Lead It
By Ida Lichter, M.D.
2/25/13
An article in a Hamas daily accused women for spreading a recent outbreak of Swine flu. The columnist blamed women for being transmitters of epidemics, due to their predilection for congregating in groups to exchange news and rumors. He suggested that outbreaks could be averted if men imposed more limitations on women's movements.
These claims might be dismissed as laughable but they are not isolated allegations of female culpability. Ayatollah Kazim Sadighi, a leading Iranian cleric, warned that women who did not dress modestly could promote adultery, which in turn increases earthquakes. A Nigerian woman was brought before a sharia court and accused of initiating a girl into witchcraft. An influential Saudi cleric believes that women who wear a full veil with slits for the eyes still look too seductive with eye make-up, and he ordered that they cover one eye.
Claims that women are blameworthy also serve as pretexts for Islamist extremists who wish to strengthen gender restrictions based on religion. Furthermore, the tribal culture favors boys over girls from birth. Women must be contained to curb their potential for causing social strife, and undermining the reputation of men. As men's reputations are linked to the sexual behavior of their wives, mothers and sisters, "honor" killings and domestic violence tend to be treated leniently.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ida-lichter-md/arab-world-needs-a-new-wave-of-feminism_b_2630093.html?utm_hp_ref=hillary-clinton
This is so depressing and frustrating. The treatment of women and girls is still appalling in far too many countries, but I don't necessarily agree with the doctor's blanket statement that "The (feminist) movement has sunk into hypocrisy and double standards. It has allowed an alliance with the far left to trump women's rights". Maybe the Western feminist movement should speak up louder about women's rights in other countries, but it has not remained completely silent on the issue.
niyad
(113,344 posts)Beacool
(30,250 posts)Right here at home we are still fighting over reproductive rights.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Beacool
(30,250 posts)She seems to feel that the feminist movement has sold out:
"However, the Western feminist movement that was once an inspiration for human rights has become a shadow of its former luminous self, and in its post-modern form, third generation feminists are silent on Muslim women's rights. Instead, they are preoccupied with issues dear to the far left, like radical versions of moral relativism, post-colonialism and anti-Americanism."
Is she right? I never thought of it in the context that she put it.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)you know, the "rad" fems that are being atacked so on du? it is because we are challenging that very thing. yes.... the feminist movement sold out. and yes, we see it today as they are seeing it in europe. and yes, our youth are addressing this, recognizing what has happened and putting a lot of force and effort in redirecting.
it is hurting on, (on a different playing field) just as it is hurting the people/countries being discussed in the article.
absolutely.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)there is a reason why today the rape culture is stronger than ever. there is a reason why our courts still tell women they should expect no less than sexual assault, standing in a fuckin bar. or gang raped filmed and excused.
we are on a different playing field experiencing the same thing.
limbaughs able to call women sluts
oscars able to talk about actors that bared breasts for everyones fun.... but the actress.
invasive probes to cause a girl "discomfort" cause she dared to get a LEGAL medical procedure.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)Some women seem to believe that the battles of the 1960s have already been won and therefore it's time to disband the army. IMO the reverse is true.The advent of technology has also brought the proliferation of free porn. The easy availability of pornography has changed the perceptions of many people regarding sex. New York magazine had a whole issue on pornography and how it affected different groups of people. The ones most affected by it were teenagers. Boys were looking at pornography, and being too young to have much real life relationship experience, they had unrealistic expectations about girls. Some of the girls interviewed mentioned how sexually aggressive some of the boys were and how they demanded certain sexual acts because they had seen them in porn movies.
In read today in the newspaper that Iceland is considering banning extreme porn because they believe that it increases incidents of rape (Iceland has a high rate of rapes).
http://www.metro.us/newyork/news/international/2013/02/25/cold-shower-for-iceland-porn-users-as-government-sets-ban/
pampango
(24,692 posts)http://www.pewglobal.org/2012/07/10/most-muslims-want-democracy-personal-freedoms-and-islam-in-political-life/
Obviously there are powerful and violent minorities in some countries that oppose any sort of gender equality but there is much support among the general population.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)Of the countries listed, Lebanon and Turkey seem to be the better ones for women's equality. Of the countries not listed, Saudi Arabia probably has the worst record. It is ironic that they are one of our biggest allies in the region and also one of our largest creditors.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)And Lebanon has a significant Orthodox Christian minority.
Also, Turkey has been a strictly secular society for the last century or so, though for some reason they keep electing Islamist governments.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)pampango
(24,692 posts)in the Middle East. We can compare polling figures from different countries in the chart and offer our opinions of why they differ.
My take from the chart is that support for gender equality is higher among average people than one might assume from news reports from the region.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Or a bigot, or a racist, or whatever...
There is VERY strong push-back on the left that prohibits any criticism of Islamic practices towards women. Even on DU it provokes vicious cultural relativist outcry, major slams, and ugly name calling.
It IS hypocritical. The feminist movement has gone so far overboard in an attempt to "understand" the culture, or they walk on eggshells trying to encourage the women to "work from within" - the western feminist movement has stopped being forceful on calling out the social injustice these cultures impose on women.
I actually agree with the doctor on this point.
Thanks for the article Beacool! K&R!
hughee99
(16,113 posts)I think it needs to be lead by someone from that world.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)It should be led by a woman from the region.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)MadHound
(34,179 posts)But Hillary is not the one to lead it. It needs to be somebody from within the Arab world, that is the only way for it to be effective.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)Although Hillary has been effective in bringing attention to the issue as SOS. For example, in Cambodia they have many young girls that were either sold by their impoverished families or forced by some other means into prostitution. There is a shelter for these girls that Hillary insisted on visiting to bring attention to the plight of these children. The woman that runs the shelter said that the girls kept a photo of Hillary in their rooms as inspiration. Thanks to her visit, the Cambodian government couldn't hide the issue anymore.
In her own words:
"I was embraced by children who should have been in grade school, but were instead recovering from having been enslaved in a brothel," Clinton said, of her visit to a Cambodian shelter last year.
"There was one little girl who had the biggest grin on her face, and then when I looked into that face, I saw that one of her eyes was badly disfigured. She had glasses on. And I asked one of the women running the shelter, What happened to her?
"And she said, Well, when she was sold into a brothel, she was even younger than she is now, and she basically fought back to protect herself against what was expected. So the brothel owner stabbed her in the eye with a large nail.
http://paindependent.com/2011/12/alleged-prostitution-rings-at-pa-massage-parlors-targeted/