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You know, I'm glad that missed the Oscars last night… (Original Post) MrScorpio Feb 2013 OP
pretty lousy year anyhow quinnox Feb 2013 #1
It was an awful year. Worst ever, imo. Smarmie Doofus Feb 2013 #3
yep, hell, it must be pretty bad when one of the few movies quinnox Feb 2013 #4
Not nearly as bad as advertised Bigbluebrush Feb 2013 #2
Riiight… MrScorpio Feb 2013 #5
Thought it was funny. Lighten up. nt EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #10
At least I can sleep well tonight knowing… MrScorpio Feb 2013 #12
Surprise, shock, and poor taste... Bigbluebrush Feb 2013 #13
"Vaudvill(ian) and old fashioned… " MrScorpio Feb 2013 #15
We laugh because... Bigbluebrush Feb 2013 #16
Seth was entertained by the fact that women have (OMG) BREASTS! MrScorpio Feb 2013 #17
Now you're on the right track [nt] Bigbluebrush Feb 2013 #19
Laughing at tit jokes? Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #21
Oh, you had to go back nine years to find that old gem MrScorpio Feb 2013 #22
Think about it. I wonder if MacFarlane KNEW what he'd be singing about! alp227 Feb 2013 #18
The actresses there were in on it. The "reactions" were pre-recorded. morningfog Feb 2013 #20
It was bad. DURHAM D Feb 2013 #6
I have come to the conclusion that Seth McFarlane is... prairierose Feb 2013 #23
There were some truly cringe-worthy moments... TDale313 Feb 2013 #7
I agree with you dflprincess Feb 2013 #8
Liked that bit too. n/t TDale313 Feb 2013 #11
I found it funny Bigbluebrush Feb 2013 #14
Gag. Neoma Feb 2013 #9
 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
1. pretty lousy year anyhow
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 08:25 PM
Feb 2013

for movies. I see a lot of movies, and nothing good recently that I can recall. Zero Dark Thirty was a snooze fest and over-hyped nonsense.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
3. It was an awful year. Worst ever, imo.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 08:40 PM
Feb 2013

I saw every nominee except Les Miserables. ( Didn't particularly like the play so..... what was the point ?)

They were.. almost without exception... trite, cliched, formulaic, politically safe and *boring*.

Closed it out with with DJango Saturday nite. Glossy, repellent, repulsively and sickeningly violent, $$$$-making bullshit. Ugh.

Best movie I saw all year was the Israeli-doc "The Flat"... which I don't think was even nominated for anything. In fact... it's really the only one I even remember.

The awards show was snoozefest too.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
4. yep, hell, it must be pretty bad when one of the few movies
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 08:43 PM
Feb 2013

I think I actually was entertained by last year was "Snow White and the Huntsman", which was no masterpiece for sure.

Bigbluebrush

(66 posts)
2. Not nearly as bad as advertised
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 08:39 PM
Feb 2013

I'll take last night's truly funny and entertaining show over the usual classy, stale marathon. It's the first time I've ever hung in until the end.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
5. Riiight…
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 08:43 PM
Feb 2013
http://vicmorrowsghost.tumblr.com/post/43967323391/during-his-we-saw-your-boobs-song-seth

During his “We Saw Your Boobs” song Seth MacFarlane listed off women who’s breasts he’d seen in their movies. As if this isn’t grotesque enough four of the instances he listed were scenes of rape or the character was raped during the movie.

Hilary Swank in Boys Don’t Cry.
Jodie Foster in The Accused.
Jessica Chastain in Lawless.
Charlize Theron in Monster.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
12. At least I can sleep well tonight knowing…
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:07 PM
Feb 2013

That some of us are entertained by rampant sexism AND parodies about cinematic rape scenes.

But hey, it was "funny," right?

Bigbluebrush

(66 posts)
13. Surprise, shock, and poor taste...
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:35 PM
Feb 2013

...are regular features of humor. I assume that the producers could have hired Disney writers if they wanted that.

I have to say, though, that the humor was self consciously over the top. It was almost tongue in cheek with its outrageousness. It was sort of vaudeville and old fashioned in a refreshing way.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
15. "Vaudvill(ian) and old fashioned… "
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:40 PM
Feb 2013

Just like jokes by men who objectify women and rape scenes are supposed to be.

Just look how far we've come as a society!

Bigbluebrush

(66 posts)
16. We laugh because...
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:48 PM
Feb 2013

...we recognize the outrageous aspects of it. A good thing.

It would be far worse if the audience simply agreed with the joke and applauded, "Yes, Seth, excellent point, women are indeed like that!"

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
17. Seth was entertained by the fact that women have (OMG) BREASTS!
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:53 PM
Feb 2013

Which, of course, are a sure fire subject to be made fun of in any situation.

We can laugh at tit jokes!

I'm sure that all of the titty owners in question needed that, with song and dance thrown in for good measure

alp227

(32,033 posts)
18. Think about it. I wonder if MacFarlane KNEW what he'd be singing about!
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:54 PM
Feb 2013

I think I'm gonna stop watching Family Guy for a LONG DAMN TIME now. He's sunken to Daniel Tosh "wouldn't it be funny if that girl were raped by five guys" level.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
20. The actresses there were in on it. The "reactions" were pre-recorded.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:43 PM
Feb 2013

They are wearing different dresses. It was still sexist and stupid, and the point on four coming in depictions of rape is well taken. But, the reactions were pre-recorded, suggesting the actresses themselves get the joke.

prairierose

(2,145 posts)
23. I have come to the conclusion that Seth McFarlane is...
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:26 AM
Feb 2013

really cute but about 11 years old. Did you see Ted? I was sure it was written by an 11 year old. I remember when my brothers were that age. I wanted to kill them. I'm pretty sure my mother did too. OTOH, my youngest brother was funnier than Seth.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
7. There were some truly cringe-worthy moments...
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 09:42 PM
Feb 2013

But I'm gonna play devil's advocate on a few of these, just for some context:

1) the boob song- part of a segment where host is being shown glimpses of himself from a future where he's called the worst Oscar host ever. The "target" of the joke, IMO, was the host, not so much the actresses.

2) The Selma Hayek joke was that this is the moment in every award show where Selma Hayek, Penelope Cruz, or Javier Bardem show up and we can't understand them but don't care cause they're so attractive. So it does also objectify a man as well.

3) The Aniston/Stripper thing: IIRC, the host jokes before Aniston/copresenter Channing Tatum (who is male) that of the next two presenters, at least one is honest about being a former exotic dancer. Tatum was one- his experience as a stripper was part of the inspiration behind the movie Magic Mike. Yes, the joke is that Aniston was/may have been one too, but Tatum's presence does, for me, somewhat change the tone.

Just my 2 cents. Some of the jokes (both on that list and off) were in poor taste. Other moments were really funny. I also do think context and who the "target" of the joke is makes a difference in what's offensive. (And if it matters to anyone, I am female)



dflprincess

(28,079 posts)
8. I agree with you
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 09:47 PM
Feb 2013

Given the host, I was expecting some of this sort of humor and I wasn't amused by all of it but I wasn't horrified or offended either. (But then I mostly liked "Ted&quot .

Loved the "Flying Nun" bit he did with Sally Field.

Bigbluebrush

(66 posts)
14. I found it funny
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:40 PM
Feb 2013

I give much more leeway when the humor is well constructed and delivered, which it definitely was, so it becomes something like a "smart foul" in basketball.

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