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Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 03:45 PM Feb 2013

End government support of this cruel experiment at Universty of Wisconsin

For decades, the University of Wisconsin-Madison (UW) has allowed experimenters to conduct cruel taxpayer-funded "sound localization" experiments on cats like Double Trouble, a gentle orange tabby. In these experiments, cats have steel coils implanted in their eyes, holes drilled into their skulls, and electrodes implanted in their brains. Sometimes, they even have their ears cut off or are intentionally deafened by having a toxic chemical applied to their inner ear. They are then deprived of food for several days in order to coerce them to look in the direction of sounds during experimental sessions in which their heads are immobilized by a bolt screwed to their skulls.

http://signon.org/sign/i-urge-the-government.fb23?source=s.fb&r_by=7090679


They are only looking for 200 signatures. I hope they can get much much more then that.

I'm pretty sure this topic has been posted before... just not THIS petition.

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End government support of this cruel experiment at Universty of Wisconsin (Original Post) Ellipsis Feb 2013 OP
Done! Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #1
Done. Do you know why they are doing it? It sounds like insanity. Jim__ Feb 2013 #2
Here you go: Brigid Feb 2013 #35
Done and Rec'd. n/t 2theleft Feb 2013 #3
done Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #4
Sign, Tweeted & shared sasha031 Feb 2013 #5
Done #165 life long demo Feb 2013 #6
I've done animal research before Shivering Jemmy Feb 2013 #7
Money perhaps? Ellipsis Feb 2013 #8
Yeah, WARF was the supporting postulater Feb 2013 #9
Amazing how much money they have from rat poison alone. Ellipsis Feb 2013 #10
Ha! I didn't know that. postulater Feb 2013 #12
same here, and I am on an IACUC now NoMoreWarNow Feb 2013 #17
I think I'm going to be sick now. Brigid Feb 2013 #11
Kick glinda Feb 2013 #13
Done and shared. silverweb Feb 2013 #14
Done! mckara Feb 2013 #15
I have a gentle orange tabby cat myself. This is horrible. Jennicut Feb 2013 #16
OMG! PETA works against things like this. It takes activists to work against these practices.nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #18
And everyone here at DU makes derogatory comments about PETA when RebelOne Feb 2013 #23
I know, I know. PETA has gotten a bad wrap, but it is one of the few orgs who go after these creeps. Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #36
Done. THis is sick. nm rhett o rick Feb 2013 #19
Done Smilo Feb 2013 #20
They do WHAT??? Jack Rabbit Feb 2013 #21
Just the image invoked makes my heart hurt. Signed and posted on Facebook. n/t UtahLib Feb 2013 #22
Done! denvine Feb 2013 #24
And done. timdog44 Feb 2013 #25
Done newfie11 Feb 2013 #26
I hope there is a purpose to that... Kalidurga Feb 2013 #27
Signed nuxvomica Feb 2013 #28
Please provide some sort of link that shows proof that this sort of kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #29
There's a contact on the pettition... feel free. Ellipsis Feb 2013 #30
Here's a youtube..... GRAPHIC WARNING. Ellipsis Feb 2013 #31
UW has responded repeatedly to these allegations PeaceNikki Feb 2013 #32
A bit more on Eric Sandgren Ellipsis Feb 2013 #33
So says UW. Brigid Feb 2013 #34
kick Ellipsis Feb 2013 #37

Shivering Jemmy

(900 posts)
7. I've done animal research before
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 04:36 PM
Feb 2013

I'm certain that UW has an institutional animal care and use committee in place. They have to. Having worked with IACUCs before they are pretty anal in seeing that animal suffering is minimized. Why is their committees performance any worse than that off other institutions?

postulater

(5,075 posts)
9. Yeah, WARF was the supporting
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:13 PM
Feb 2013

the Math Research Center at UW in the 70s. They were doing research for the military during the Vietnam war.

It was located at the time in Sterling Hall, the Physics Building.

That's the building that got a hole blown into it one night, killing a research graduate student.

postulater

(5,075 posts)
12. Ha! I didn't know that.
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:38 PM
Feb 2013

My daughter is at Madison now, I'll have to show her this.

Just yesterday, a woman told me about her MIL who had been in a nursing home for just a few weeks when she started fatiguing excessively.

Turns out the woman had fallen. She was taking Coumadin and was not checked out after, nor was the family told she had fallen. Within a few days after she was dehydrating and the Coumadin levels spiked. She bled inside and died in a couple days.

But Madison really is a research powerhouse. They're the ones that found that Guinness really is more nutritious than milk.

 

NoMoreWarNow

(1,259 posts)
17. same here, and I am on an IACUC now
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:56 PM
Feb 2013

at my university. It's hard to believe this study was approved as described. My IACUC is very strict, especially on larger animals.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
16. I have a gentle orange tabby cat myself. This is horrible.
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:54 PM
Feb 2013

I cannot imagine anyone hurting my Daisy like that. I signed. Poor kitties. So cruel and for what reason? I think one can do experiments with sound without harming an animal.
This page has the actual photos of poor Double Trouble.: http://www.occupyforanimals.org/university-of-wisconsinndashmadison-conducts-horrific-experiments-on-cats.html Very graphic, so just a warning.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
23. And everyone here at DU makes derogatory comments about PETA when
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 06:25 PM
Feb 2013

they are trying to end cruel practices such as this.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
36. I know, I know. PETA has gotten a bad wrap, but it is one of the few orgs who go after these creeps.
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 08:57 PM
Feb 2013

Illegally sometimes, because these cruel practices are legal.

I signed that petition, but I can't imagine anyone will care. Money is involved.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
27. I hope there is a purpose to that...
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 06:57 PM
Feb 2013

but, I can't figure out what it would be. Signed anyway, they can deal with the public outrage.

nuxvomica

(12,426 posts)
28. Signed
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 06:58 PM
Feb 2013

This is not just insane cruelty, it's really poor experiment construction. Those experimenters must think they're doing the really difficult things that advance science when they're actually just uncreative and simplistic about methodology.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
29. Please provide some sort of link that shows proof that this sort of
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 07:01 PM
Feb 2013

research is currently ongoing.

If all you have is the claims of animal rights groups, BTW, that isn't proof.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
32. UW has responded repeatedly to these allegations
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 07:08 PM
Feb 2013

From the start PETA has distorted the study. They claim falsely that the animals were tortured. What the pictures show is an animal undergoing surgery to receive cochlear implants. As in equivalent procedures in humans, surgeries are performed under anesthesia, and followed by analgesia. The animals adapt readily to the implants, which do not cause discomfort or distress. They behave like, well, cats.

Read more: http://host.madison.com/news/opinion/column/guest/eric-sandgren-cat-research-after-all-the-drama/article_6af13b52-77c9-11e2-8b77-001a4bcf887a.html#ixzz2LlaclAFa


And also: http://www.news.wisc.edu/21046

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
33. A bit more on Eric Sandgren
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 07:18 PM
Feb 2013
http://primateresearch.blogspot.com/2010/01/eric-sandgren-we-do-not-make-excuses.html

http://www.thedailypage.com/daily/article.php?article=10111

But we held back pictures we considered proprietary. After three years of legal wrangling, we agreed to release some of the pictures, and they now grace the posters carried into last week's Board of Regents meeting.

Thats a bullshit line. They knew PETA would run with them.


From associate prof to now director of the Research Animal Resources Center at UW-Madison... what else could he say?

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
34. So says UW.
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 07:18 PM
Feb 2013

PETA has a few words to say about that, too -- there is a rebuttal posted right below this at the link. This so-called research is cruel and downright evil. These people deserve every bit of the bad publicity they are getting.

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