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SpartanDem

(4,533 posts)
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 04:38 PM Feb 2013

Gun Activists Warn Obama is Raising a Private Black Army to Massacre White Americans

SUBMITTED BY Brian Tashman on Friday, 2/22/2013 2:45 pm

Gun Owners of America president Larry Pratt appeared Tuesday on the Talk to Solomon Show alongside conservative blogger Greg W. Howard, of Twittergate fame, for another chance to spew anti-Obama conspiracy theories.

Pratt predicted that President Obama may begin confiscating guns in order to provoke a violent response to justify further oppression, which host Stan Solomon feared would lead to the imprisonment of hundreds of thousands of people.

Pratt once again insisted that Obama is acting like King George III, a sentiment with which Solomon concurred, saying, “That will happen quickly and they will wipe those people out to set an example.”

But Solomon wasn’t finished: “I believe they will put together a racial force to go against an opposite race resistance, basically a black force to go against a white resistance, and then they will claim anyone resisting the black force are doing it because they are racist.”

Howard agreed: “You may be right because he has been sowing the seeds of racial hatred; we were healing quite well as a nation on racial issues until Obama came along and now we have a lot of racial discord.”


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/gun-activists-warn-obama-raising-private-black-army-white-massacre-americans


You know these "gun activist" remind me of the religious right. They're small in number, but loud and potentially dangerous.
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Gun Activists Warn Obama is Raising a Private Black Army to Massacre White Americans (Original Post) SpartanDem Feb 2013 OP
So I guess that means Obama is going to fight himself. southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #1
No, only 1/2 of himself...? angstlessk Feb 2013 #3
It should be one hell of a fight with himself. Your right. These nutjobs are projecting. I hope southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #12
This has to be one of the stupidest things I've read in awhile, which is saying a lot Rhiannon12866 Mar 2013 #107
OMG this is so very funny. Thanks for the good laugh. Your right what a hell of a fight. southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #108
This is what I pictured, LOL. Rhiannon12866 Mar 2013 #109
So true, so true. southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #110
Why do people even bother citing this kind of vomit? geckosfeet Feb 2013 #2
I've also wondered that. The Apophis Feb 2013 #19
because it shows exactly what the pro-gun lobby is BainsBane Feb 2013 #21
Zing. nt Robb Feb 2013 #25
This is a group of marginalised nutbags. Taking them seriously and propagating their geckosfeet Feb 2013 #64
funny you should say that BainsBane Feb 2013 #65
What misinformation? Please, refresh my memory. geckosfeet Feb 2013 #66
Your ongoing shtick BainsBane Feb 2013 #69
I have never argured that. Clearly you have confused me with someone else. geckosfeet Feb 2013 #71
Because they have guns. nt OldEurope Feb 2013 #36
Two guys in pipi_k Feb 2013 #48
because they are the ones opposing gun control JI7 Feb 2013 #57
Anxiety. Checking how high the water in the swamp is prevents becoming gator food. freshwest Feb 2013 #97
This message was self-deleted by its author NoGOPZone Feb 2013 #4
These guys are fucking nuts! Taverner Feb 2013 #5
The GOA Is For Those Who Think The NRA Is Too Liberal On Gun Rights. Really. (nt) Paladin Feb 2013 #6
Correct! 'Teh dronz r comin' Infowars crowd sez the NRA is FOR gun confiscation. freshwest Feb 2013 #41
Every right-wingery must have a group like that. Anti-choice has Army of God. Homophobia has the WBC 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #73
I used to not mind these groups so much, I figured they could all fight it out amongst themselves. freshwest Mar 2013 #121
Just some good ol' boys, IDemo Feb 2013 #7
"these "gun activists" remind me of the religious right......." rdharma Feb 2013 #8
I keep thinking they can't get any worse, but... Frustratedlady Feb 2013 #9
I wonder the same thing TxDemChem Feb 2013 #88
Me2 IrishAyes Mar 2013 #111
The only people sowing the seeds of racial hatred is these clowns kimbutgar Feb 2013 #10
Just when I think the GOP can't get any crazier............. n/t Joey Liberal Feb 2013 #11
It does get crazier vankuria Feb 2013 #28
Gun humpers must be getting desperate. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2013 #13
yeh, things were going swimmingly till that colored boy was elected.. frylock Feb 2013 #14
Uppitty n/t Mopar151 Feb 2013 #24
And a godless, christian liberation theology, muslin, soshaylist furriner! freshwest Feb 2013 #42
Sometimes you do. Rozlee Feb 2013 #99
Hard to know who you're talking to here. I've friends from Mexico who say words that aren't PC. freshwest Mar 2013 #114
You might not NEED IrishAyes Mar 2013 #112
The other spelling is soy-shell-est. That 'muslin' meme tickles me. freshwest Mar 2013 #115
I still have so much to learn. IrishAyes Mar 2013 #117
Stick with me, I'll teach you all the silly stuff! freshwest Mar 2013 #120
Deal. IrishAyes Mar 2013 #122
Here's some background on Greg W. Howard and Twittergate starroute Feb 2013 #15
WAIT! The Democratic Party is paying for Twitter posts to smear the wingnuts? Sign me up now! freshwest Feb 2013 #43
Let me know where to sign up if you find out... bobclark86 Feb 2013 #92
Finally, we'll be fat cats working from home! freshwest Feb 2013 #94
I'm stuck on this gollygee Feb 2013 #16
Nailed it. treestar Feb 2013 #32
Yeah, sure. An "army" of one group of Americans Jamaal510 Feb 2013 #17
That is not John2 Feb 2013 #29
I see it as the party of the old well off white men dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #51
+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #75
That's exactly why these psychos scare the shit out of me more than any terrorist cell could. Initech Feb 2013 #18
+ a million Number23 Feb 2013 #20
Surprised he didn't even blurt out the N-word. n/t alp227 Feb 2013 #22
CRAZY countmyvote4real Feb 2013 #23
You nailed it! freshwest Feb 2013 #44
This is getting crazy obama2terms Feb 2013 #26
Prat rdharma Feb 2013 #27
Pratt is just like Charles Manson that way. Wasn't this the exact idea behind "helter skelter?" nt. Squinch Feb 2013 #30
And the Nazis always promote race war as the chance for chaos and taking over the government. freshwest Feb 2013 #45
Tell me about it IrishAyes Mar 2013 #113
Yup, you're on 'race traitor' list now. Only tough in a group. Divide their IQ by the numbers. freshwest Mar 2013 #116
Wise advice IrishAyes Mar 2013 #118
Sorry, folks - this was an accidental repeat IrishAyes Mar 2013 #119
They get crazier by the week treestar Feb 2013 #31
At this point in time the gun nuts are losing so therefore, Iliyah Feb 2013 #33
Oh please! Botany Feb 2013 #34
Racial discord. What a Buncha bullshit. Inkfreak Feb 2013 #35
If you want to get them on board with gun control Mnpaul Feb 2013 #37
Don't forget Larry Pratt was fired by Pat Buchanan for being too racist. Archae Feb 2013 #38
Exactly. Pratt has ties to white supremacists. Despite which he's also influential in ALEC. highplainsdem Feb 2013 #77
Good grief IrishAyes Feb 2013 #90
helter skelter! datasuspect Feb 2013 #39
those people are off the damn rails. krispos42 Feb 2013 #40
I Can't Wait Till Their Futile Custer's Last Stand/Alamo Act triplepoint Feb 2013 #46
*facepalm* sakabatou Feb 2013 #47
One of the scariest things about starting to do radio was the realization of how many of these stevenleser Feb 2013 #49
It got in full gear earlier with Nixon's lies, but started even earlier with small beginnings. nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2013 #55
Except--when folks riot, they destroy their own neighborhoods. McCamy Taylor Feb 2013 #50
The Haitians are coming to free your slaves!! Downwinder Feb 2013 #52
No, No!!! IrishAyes Feb 2013 #91
They should not be able to own guns. upaloopa Feb 2013 #53
They wonder why we call them gun nuts, they are the problem Thinkingabout Feb 2013 #54
When I was a teen, I somehow got ahold of the local NAZI party phone message number n2doc Feb 2013 #56
Are these nincompoops still spewing their bullcrap.Please send them to school,Afghanistan,somewhere judesedit Feb 2013 #58
There is no possible reason defacto7 Feb 2013 #59
Haven't we seen this scenario proposed before, by an equally unbalanced source? NBachers Feb 2013 #60
"...we were healing quite well as a nation on racial issues until Obama came along..." magellan Feb 2013 #61
Who keeps these idiots from walking out into traffic? Rex Feb 2013 #62
My Secret Wish IrishAyes Feb 2013 #93
Straight of of far-right (lore? I don't know what to call it) Dash87 Feb 2013 #63
I'm going to refer these guys to an expert on the subject... Deep13 Feb 2013 #67
Time to get this out again 47of74 Feb 2013 #68
What the HELL do these idiots think is gonna happen??? Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #70
'gun activists'? no. fucking insane, paranoid racist assholes. spanone Feb 2013 #72
These people need to be put in a mental institution and the key thrown away. LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #74
So why isn't this slander of defimation of character? EC Feb 2013 #76
This Is Gratifying To DU Gun Control Advocates..... Paladin Feb 2013 #78
that's a notion that can only be conjured in the minds of these idiots SemperEadem Feb 2013 #79
These folks are dangerous, and seriously insane. loudsue Feb 2013 #80
Just when I thought I've herd the craziest thing one could hear. iandhr Feb 2013 #81
What he meant to say ... Bake Feb 2013 #82
Gun activist The Wizard Feb 2013 #83
There is no different races!!! Lobo27 Feb 2013 #84
What color is the sky on these people's planet? Fire-red? Maeve Feb 2013 #85
FFS Phlem Feb 2013 #86
Those fucking assholes are too stupid to know they're projecting Zoeisright Feb 2013 #87
Not Surprising IrishAyes Feb 2013 #89
I think you nailed it, these people can not stand the idea of a black man being president SpartanDem Feb 2013 #105
OK, maybe the mentally ill shouldn't be allowed to own guns. Crunchy Frog Feb 2013 #95
Idiots. blackspade Feb 2013 #96
By coincidence, from Urban Dictionary... JHB Feb 2013 #98
Message auto-removed sailnaked Feb 2013 #100
Seriously? NOLALady Feb 2013 #101
From the Charles Manson playbook Zambero Feb 2013 #102
Another case of projection by the reactionaries. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2013 #103
FUCK YOU! Dpm12 Feb 2013 #104
Some of those who work forces are the same that burn crosses Mkap Feb 2013 #106

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
3. No, only 1/2 of himself...?
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 04:45 PM
Feb 2013

The folks who believe it crap are the MOST DANGEROUS PEOPLE ON THE PLANET..which makes this type of crap very frightening!

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
12. It should be one hell of a fight with himself. Your right. These nutjobs are projecting. I hope
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:11 PM
Feb 2013

the FBI is keeping an eye on these crazies.

Rhiannon12866

(205,405 posts)
107. This has to be one of the stupidest things I've read in awhile, which is saying a lot
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 08:15 AM
Mar 2013

But your post made me think of the movie "All of Me" with Steve Martin and Lily Tomlin...

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
21. because it shows exactly what the pro-gun lobby is
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 02:40 AM
Feb 2013

Obviously. Naturally you want to censor everything that doesn't fit the misinformation you spread in support of merchants of death.

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
64. This is a group of marginalised nutbags. Taking them seriously and propagating their
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:40 AM
Feb 2013

nonsense is just whst they want.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
65. funny you should say that
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:44 AM
Feb 2013

Because you repeat some of the same things I've heard from Pratt, particularly the misinformation you spread about the success of gun control and frequency of gun violence.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
69. Your ongoing shtick
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 01:20 AM
Feb 2013

about how the US have lower rates of violence than countries with gun control, which is blatantly false. I really don't care to rehash the same argument again. We've been through it twice and you still refuse to be honest. So that's where it stands.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
48. Two guys in
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 06:42 PM
Feb 2013

different towns have rats in the walls of their homes.

One guy wants to know what the rats are up to.

The other guy wants to pretend the rats don't exist.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
97. Anxiety. Checking how high the water in the swamp is prevents becoming gator food.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:44 AM
Feb 2013

That's the reasoning for keeping an eye of things you don't like. It's the reason I used to listen to Rush and Alex to see WTH was going on. There is a lot going on that affects human behaviors. And how these people will vote. Used to be just the tip of the iceberg. Now it's gone mainstream.



Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
41. Correct! 'Teh dronz r comin' Infowars crowd sez the NRA is FOR gun confiscation.
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 06:16 PM
Feb 2013

And every massacre is a hoax because Obama is comin' for their gunz, like he did in 2009. But this time, he really is comin'!!11!!!

To which I say, '4 REALZ ???'





freshwest

(53,661 posts)
121. I used to not mind these groups so much, I figured they could all fight it out amongst themselves.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:08 PM
Mar 2013

Without media attention, voting blocks or any real power to affect most people's lives, just raving in the dark. Counted on law enforcement catching and jailing them sooner or later. Didn't think of them as big-time terrorists as much as loud mouthed criminals or wannabes, lone wackjobs, soon to be caught. But they've gone mainstream. So many videos make the case this is going to be the 'new normal.' Meaning they will no longer be ignored by the majority who I see as the buffer zone to their insanity - or are they? Maybe this is media hype?

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
8. "these "gun activists" remind me of the religious right......."
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 04:55 PM
Feb 2013

Because many of them are exactly that! ......... Branch Davidians ring a bell?

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
9. I keep thinking they can't get any worse, but...
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 04:59 PM
Feb 2013

they prove me wrong every time.

This is beyond incredible. How does Obama conduct himself so well when he knows what these idiots are saying and planning? Poor guy. I feel so sorry for him and his family for having to put up with this hatred.

TxDemChem

(1,918 posts)
88. I wonder the same thing
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:11 PM
Feb 2013

It has to get old. I hope PO's kids never read this stuff. I can only imagine how stressed they would be. Poor family.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
111. Me2
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 01:48 PM
Mar 2013

The president's grace and courage under fire proves him to be one of the best. Remember when opponents used to say he was too untested and naive for the office? Well, they switched their tune pretty fast to calling him the antichrist, didn't they? Now the wingnuts who used to charge that he would be too easy for enemies to push around have changed their tune, claiming he wants to incite race war and hit the rebs with predator drones.

Personally I like Joe Biden's take on President Obama, who does play famously close to the vest. The VP warned, "Don't ever play poker with this man."

kimbutgar

(21,155 posts)
10. The only people sowing the seeds of racial hatred is these clowns
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:02 PM
Feb 2013

And the right wing media of Fox, Rush and the others in the clown car. Wow I am really starting to believe these people have gone bat shit insane in their hatred of a black man in the white house. I see them frothing at the mouth with their hatred.

The only way black people will rise up is if they take their voting rights away.

vankuria

(904 posts)
28. It does get crazier
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 10:33 AM
Feb 2013

A wingnut friend on facebook (from high school and now I'm embarassed that I know her) posted some propaganda that Sandy Hook was all staged as some government plot to take everyone's guns away. According to the nuts who believe this, no one really died, it was all just a big scam to get the publics support to take guns away from law abiding citizens. So yes, it does get crazier, you are dealing with the most insane people on the planet!

frylock

(34,825 posts)
14. yeh, things were going swimmingly till that colored boy was elected..
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 07:52 PM
Feb 2013

unfuckingbelievable. Obama is raising racial tension by being, you know, black. how DARE he!!1

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
42. And a godless, christian liberation theology, muslin, soshaylist furriner!
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 06:19 PM
Feb 2013
Do I need the icon here on DU?



Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
99. Sometimes you do.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:28 AM
Feb 2013

I was accused of being anti-Hispanic once for parroting the way anti-immigration bigots talk (in quotations), even though my parents were illegal Mexican immigrants themselves. Some people take things too literally.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
114. Hard to know who you're talking to here. I've friends from Mexico who say words that aren't PC.
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:13 PM
Mar 2013

Re: Mexicans. If I was to repeat them, people would think I had a problem. Lack of voice and facial expression really does limit the meanings of words on the net.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
112. You might not NEED
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 01:55 PM
Mar 2013

... the sarcasm, but we love it. Pour it on! Be warned, however, some of us will keep trying to outdo you however low the odds.

I'm going to copy your funny spelling of soshaylist for my own use offsite, if you don't mind. That's a good one. I already knew how to spell furriner.

Hey, I just realized how to remember that spelling: it's 'sos hay list'

starroute

(12,977 posts)
15. Here's some background on Greg W. Howard and Twittergate
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:49 PM
Feb 2013

Both Larry Pratt and Glen W. Howard have long histories as racists. But Howard also has his own history as a well-known thin-skinned idiot.

http://gawker.com/5659351/twittergate-how-internet-jerks-pranked-the-tea-party

Oct 9, 2010

The best way to deal with jerks online is to ignore them. But when prominent Tea Partiers on Twitter started being harassed by a group of Internet trolls, they launched a twitter militia and concocted an elaborate conspiracy theory.

Twittergate is the hottest new conspiracy theory out of the conservative blogosphere. Yesterday, Glenn Beck's news site, The Blaze, posted an epic YouTube video which purports to expose a massive conspiracy by Democrats to take over Twitter: "DID DEMOCRATS HIRE A ‘TWITTER-THUG' TO SMEAR THE TEA PARTY?" The Blaze asks. ...

Twittergate has sparked many sprawling blogposts outlining the conspiracy, and frenzied discussion on conservative message boards and Twitter. "Democrats PAY e-thugs to harass you," tweeted ResistTyranny. Democratic operatives exposed as the thuggish KGB to Obama's Kremlin! But also like a Glenn Beck conspiracy theory, Twittergate is utter bullshit. Although the truth is almost as ridiculous. ...

It all starts with a Twitter gang known as the Beandogs, a loose-knit group of dozens of Twitter users from all over the world, united only by a love of dick jokes and harassing strangers on Twitter. ... Beandogs targeted Greg W. Howard, the Glenn Beck of Twitter, after Howard spearheaded the takedown of a highly-publicized anti-Glenn Beck account called @murderglennbeck. ... So, the Beandogs started tweeting vulgar things about Howard's children and wife, spreading rumors about him and generally making his Twitter life miserable.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
43. WAIT! The Democratic Party is paying for Twitter posts to smear the wingnuts? Sign me up now!
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 06:23 PM
Feb 2013
I'll be right there! You gotta love your work, because you gotta pay the rent.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
92. Let me know where to sign up if you find out...
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:03 AM
Feb 2013

I can pop up a dozen sock puppets on various devices and use them all to spam selected targets . I ask 20 cents a twit and can get a 1,000 a day, hehe.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
16. I'm stuck on this
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:54 PM
Feb 2013
Howard agreed: “You may be right because he has been sowing the seeds of racial hatred; we were healing quite well as a nation on racial issues until Obama came along and now we have a lot of racial discord.”


What does that mean? We were doing great until a black person got in a position of power? How is it healing if it only occurs so long as . . .

Can't even finish the sentence. This whole line of thinking is really hateful. "Sowing the seeds of racial hatred" I think means daring to be in a position of power while being black. "Racial discord" means something along the lines of people who are not white thinking they should have a voice and a part in our government. We'd be "doing great" so long as that kind of stuff didn't happen.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
32. Nailed it.
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 11:42 AM
Feb 2013

"Racial discord" to them is things not being like they were in the eras where blacks were in "their place."

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
17. Yeah, sure. An "army" of one group of Americans
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 12:24 AM
Feb 2013

against almost 70% of the country's population...that is definitely a fight worth picking.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
29. That is not
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 10:54 AM
Feb 2013

reality. President Obama got almost 40 percent of the white vote and over 70 percent of other minority groups. They consider the whites that voted for President Obama the enemy too. They call them Liberal communists. What they are espousing is no different than any other white supremacist group like the Klu Klux Klan. These people can not deal with the changing demographics of America. O'Reilly's rhetoric is no different either or Limbaugh.

The simple truth is no American is a second class citizen based on skin color but that is what scares these people. As an African American, I can care less about the color of someone's skin as long as I'm treated with respect and as an equal. That is what the President is really about. They don't like the idea that a Black person or anybody else can rise to the top office in this land.

To tell you the truth, I think people are talking in code and it is really about using skin color for
preferred status in this country. I see this through Foreign Policy and immigration Policy. Is this really about keeping unskill or criminals out or about keeping certain racial groups out of this country through a quota system? In the 20 and 21st century, you had a lot of European immigration coming through Ellis Island and now you have more immigration crossing the borders that are not European. I think certain whites are threatened by the shift. So it is not just about African Americans, but it is really about anyone who isn't white isn't it The problem;em with these certain whites, is that a significant portion of whites are not racists and threatened by someone's skin color. Their message is really tailored towards whites that are though.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
51. I see it as the party of the old well off white men
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 08:19 PM
Feb 2013

are very afraid of being outvoted
so they frantically try to keep Latinos and all other "minorities" from having any power.
Trouble is, THEY are becoming the minority..and they know it.
All this paranoid talk is a reflection that Pres. Obama's election scared the holy shit out of them.
Least ways, that is how I hear it.

Initech

(100,079 posts)
18. That's exactly why these psychos scare the shit out of me more than any terrorist cell could.
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 12:33 AM
Feb 2013

They just keep stirring up the crazies.

obama2terms

(563 posts)
26. This is getting crazy
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 09:48 AM
Feb 2013

I know it is when my Santorum voting friend began to rant about the NRA and Alex Jones and now this guy making responsible gun owners look bad. Then he went on to say any responsible gun owner should be fine with background checks, these people are doing themselves no favors by saying these things. I couldn't believe my ears when my friend said this, makes me wonder is their own base freaked out by this? I'll never know lol

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
27. Prat
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 10:15 AM
Feb 2013

prat (prt)
n. Slang
The buttocks.

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freshwest

(53,661 posts)
45. And the Nazis always promote race war as the chance for chaos and taking over the government.
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 06:30 PM
Feb 2013

The first group on their extermination list is all of the whites who don't go along, then minorities. Just a little genocide running in their heads all day long to give themselves a happy...



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IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
113. Tell me about it
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 02:06 PM
Mar 2013

I live in a remote corner of MidWestern RedNeckLand where probably half the men play soldier in the woods. (No telling what else they play, but that's a subject for another day.) I hope they fall out and shoot each other before they get around to visiting me, which they've promised to my face they will do someday. When the Repugs took the House in '12, a pickup load of militia stopped on the street outside my house, honking and hooting and waving their pistols and rifles. I went out smiling, waved, and took their picture. They peeled rubber and haven't been back. But they're still out there.

They didn't know the camera doesn't work. But they know my extended double barrel Colt does. I really hate needing to keep a gun, but it's the only thing those nuts respect, especially with a woman alone.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
116. Yup, you're on 'race traitor' list now. Only tough in a group. Divide their IQ by the numbers.
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:23 PM
Mar 2013

Watch out if they get liquored up... And keep your animals out of range.






IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
118. Wise advice
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:50 AM
Mar 2013

For a long time when I let the chows out, I'd walk the entire yard first even though, as I said somewhere before, I poison-trained them. They wouldn't touch any food except from me. But they both died at 16 and now I only have a little yapper for a watchdog. I'm not at all sure she's a likely candidate for such training. Still I keep as close an eye on her as I can.

During campaign season the big wooden sign I crafted stood in the middle of the side yard in case anyone used it for target practice as threatened. I put a row of little American flags across the top in an effort to shame low-level bullies from throwing actual mud. And yes, I know that would be useless against the truly dangerous ones.

Did you read about the SPLC's recent report that militia groups are on the rise?

When I moved here, I still had an old joke card with FBI printed in bold letters on the top and 'Federal Bureau of Idiots' in small print at the bottom. One day while at the county offices I flipped through the other ID in my hands and placed the stack on the table with the top of that one showing so the clerk couldn't miss it, then as if it had been an accident I scooped it back up and told her in my calmest managerial voice, "Forget you ever saw that."

Of course the twit used her wild imagination and the rumor was all over town before I got home. My purpose had been not to gain favor or status of any kind but to discourage reprisals from certain people I knew would hear the most outrageous version of what happened. Although I MIGHT have pushed the envelope a little, it was not impersonation or I wouldn't have done it and I certainly wouldn't be talking about it in public. But by that time I'd learned - forgive me - how seriously dumb and gullible a lot of these people are.

By far my best layer of protection, though, has been a loud mouth about the worst things that have gone on. I'm prone to shout the news from the rooftops, not to mention the local weekly paper. Why the archconservative owner/publisher sticks his own neck out by printing my quarterly rants remains a mystery to me. I have to wonder if he's a cut above the usual around here. So by now anything that might go too far south for me would be hard for the militia to hide. I wouldn't go quietly.

To wind up this particular mini-rant, I want to point out that most of those militia wannabes couldn't even make it through boot camp in a real army. Most are fat-ass cowards. They think they're such bigshots and they are indeed dangerous, but I'd never give them credit for being anywhere near real soldiers.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
119. Sorry, folks - this was an accidental repeat
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:52 AM
Mar 2013

And if I just self-deleted it, some of you would leap to the erroneous conclusion that I'd said something and then backed out of it.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
31. They get crazier by the week
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 11:39 AM
Feb 2013
Howard agreed: “You may be right because he has been sowing the seeds of racial hatred; we were healing quite well as a nation on racial issues until Obama came along and now we have a lot of racial discord.”


You know, Howard, no. You are the one creating the "racial discord" because you just can't stand having a black man as President.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
33. At this point in time the gun nuts are losing so therefore,
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 01:02 PM
Feb 2013

they are coming out swinging any means necessary. Ya see, they don't care about people dying as long as they get their profits. If there is a heaven and hell, I hope hell will have open arms for this douche bags.

Botany

(70,508 posts)
34. Oh please!
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 02:18 PM
Feb 2013

Howard agreed: “You may be right because he has been sowing the seeds of racial hatred; we
were healing quite well as a nation on racial issues until Obama came along and now we have
a lot of racial discord.”





President Obama is not the one sowing seeds of racial discord Howard you are w/ your
whack a doodle ideas about a black army coming to take "white folk's" guns.



The President's March, 2008 speech on race in America should be up there w/the Gettysburg
Address and MLK's, "I Have A Dream," speech.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
37. If you want to get them on board with gun control
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 04:03 PM
Feb 2013

Do what the Black Panthers did, patrol the streets with rifles(in open carry areas). When they did that Reagan couldn't outlaw it fast enough. If these wingnuts who parade around with guns were joined by people of color carrying guns, they will change their tone quickly

highplainsdem

(48,990 posts)
77. Exactly. Pratt has ties to white supremacists. Despite which he's also influential in ALEC.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:24 PM
Feb 2013

From Time magazine in 2001:

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,94912,00.html

Nearly three years ago, as Sen. John Ashcroft was considering a run for the presidency, he composed a hand-written thank-you note to a man many politicians would run from. Neatly inscribed on Ashcroft's Senate stationery, the letter went to Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America, a firearms lobbying group considered extremist even by many conservatives.

-snip-

At the time Ashcroft wrote to Pratt, the Virginia-based activist was already branded as a pariah even by those considered to the right of the GOP: Two years earlier, he had been forced to step aside as co-chairman of Pat Buchanan's presidential campaign after news reports of his association with leaders of the Ku Klux Klan, the Aryan Nations and militias.

-snip-



From ThinkProgress last year:

As the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) works to distance itself from the NRA-bill it backed as a “model” adopted in dozens of states, it may be hoping that people will not continue to dig into the damage done by its long love affair with gun groups, like the gun-industry funded NRA and fringe groups with ties to white supremacists like Gun Owners of America (GOA).

GOA’s Executive Director is Larry Pratt. In the early 1980s, Pratt and the GOA were outspoken supporters of the white rulers in South Africa during apartheid, calling a press conference in 1984 to present “evidence” that allegedly tied Bishop Desmond Tutu to an effort to violently overthrow the white minority regime in the country. In 1990, Pratt wrote a book titled “Armed People Victorious” based on his study of death squads in Guatemala and the Philippines, and advocated for similar “citizen defense patrols” in the United States. The idea reportedly caught on in 1992, when Pratt addressed a three-day meeting of neo-Nazis and Christian Adherents organized by white supremacist Pete Peters. He shared the stage with a former Ku Klux Klan leader and an Aryan Nation official.

Pratt also held leadership roles in ALEC for many years. His relationship with ALEC began in 1978, when ALEC began an effort to oppose a constitutional amendment giving the District of Columbia full voting rights in Congress. When Pratt was elected to the Virginia State Legislature in 1981, he took a leadership position in ALEC. He sat on ALEC’s board even after he left the legislature, serving as its treasurer into the 1990s.

Meanwhile, the organization Pratt helped lead shared his passion for relaxing guns laws. For decades, ALEC quietly helped advance key parts of the gun agenda, including not only bills that may protect vigilante shooters but that also lead to more armed people on the streets who may cite laws like Florida¹s so-called Stand Your Ground or “Kill at Will” bill. ALEC’s agenda is detailed at the Center for Media and Democracy’s ALECexposed.org. Even though GOA left ALEC years ago, it was a long-time member and leader. GOA leapt to the defense of Florida’s law, ratified by ALEC, in the wake of the shooting of unarmed high school student Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman.

-snip-

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
90. Good grief
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:57 AM
Feb 2013

I didn't know many people could be worse than Buchanan! Except this nut in North Carolina or somewhere around there who keeps getting elected even though he outright defends slavery. Or maybe because of it?

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
40. those people are off the damn rails.
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 04:17 PM
Feb 2013

Those people are apparantly clueless that White Slaveowning America sowed the seeds of racial hatred centuries ago, and Jim Crow, the Klan, and Republican gerrymandering continue to fertilize the field they are living in.

 

triplepoint

(431 posts)
46. I Can't Wait Till Their Futile Custer's Last Stand/Alamo Act
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stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
49. One of the scariest things about starting to do radio was the realization of how many of these
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 06:49 PM
Feb 2013

kinds of shows there are out there on the radio.

There is a huge market for people who go on the radio and make up crazy stuff to tell their listeners. Conspiracy theorists eat this stuff up and listen in large numbers.

There was always some of this around, particularly in the US but I place the blame on George W. Bush for how bad it has gotten. When the US Government is caught in so blatant a lie as the justification was for the Iraq war, it sets up the premise and question "What else is the government lying to me about?" Since it is virtually impossible to prove either way much of the time, those selling conspiracy were off to the races after Iraq.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
50. Except--when folks riot, they destroy their own neighborhoods.
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 08:19 PM
Feb 2013

Otherwise, Beverly Hills would have been destroyed in the 1960s.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
54. They wonder why we call them gun nuts, they are the problem
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 09:28 PM
Feb 2013

If they had a real clue they would be dangerous. This is an example of an unstable person and they should be on a no buy list.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
56. When I was a teen, I somehow got ahold of the local NAZI party phone message number
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 09:40 PM
Feb 2013

They said pretty much the same thing, just substitute "Jews" for "Obama". This group is essentially the same as the American Nazi party, in my opinion. And should be treated the same.

judesedit

(4,438 posts)
58. Are these nincompoops still spewing their bullcrap.Please send them to school,Afghanistan,somewhere
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 10:41 PM
Feb 2013

somebody can teach them about reality. They are nothing but troublemakers. Hopefully, they are OLD. What a pleasure it will be when they're GONE!

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
59. There is no possible reason
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 10:58 PM
Feb 2013

to even try to make anything logical about these remarks. There is no cause and effect, there is no basis for reason, it's just the intellectual maturity of Bevis and Butthead .. which is to say duhhh duhhh... duhhh and I mean it.. duhhhh.

These guys have brain worm.

magellan

(13,257 posts)
61. "...we were healing quite well as a nation on racial issues until Obama came along..."
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:11 AM
Feb 2013

There just isn't enough facepalm in the world for how out of touch and ignorant a statement that is.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
62. Who keeps these idiots from walking out into traffic?
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:21 AM
Feb 2013

That is about the STUPIDEST shit I've ever read and not only makes no logical sense, but hurts my brain as I try and wrap my head around The Stupid in it's totality.

Nope cannot do it, The Stupid is too hard. Lemme try this instead... Maybe if I numb my brain up, I can kinda sorta figure it out.

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
63. Straight of of far-right (lore? I don't know what to call it)
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:36 AM
Feb 2013

They've been going at the "race war" bit for years.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
70. What the HELL do these idiots think is gonna happen???
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 01:34 AM
Feb 2013

Do they picture themselves manning the walls of their gated communities as a massive negro army comes rushing at them???

This ain't 1879 in the Battle of Isandlwana.

EC

(12,287 posts)
76. So why isn't this slander of defimation of character?
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:15 PM
Feb 2013

Maybe some lawsuits need to start to stop this shit. Having FBI address it only builds their case, so I'm thinking lawsuits.

Paladin

(28,262 posts)
78. This Is Gratifying To DU Gun Control Advocates.....
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:58 PM
Feb 2013

....considering all the self-righteous lectures we've received over the years from our resident Gun Enthusiasts about gun control supposedly having racist roots. It's been obvious for years that this country's racists and the lilly-white gun militancy movement are clustered together on the far-right edge of the political spectrum. You gun rights advocates are in serious need of spokesmen who are better evolved than Larry Pratt and Stan Solomon.....

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
79. that's a notion that can only be conjured in the minds of these idiots
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 01:12 PM
Feb 2013

yeah, show us your undeniable proof... I thought so.. there is none. Just your overactive imagination.

an idle mind is the devil's workshop, after all.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
80. These folks are dangerous, and seriously insane.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 01:19 PM
Feb 2013

Not even just mentally unhealthy.....I mean seriously paranoid, seriously delusional.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
82. What he meant to say ...
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 03:50 PM
Feb 2013

"We were healing quite well as long as they knew their place. Then one of THEM had to get uppity and get elected President and now look at the mess!"

That's what he meant.

Bake

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
83. Gun activist
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 03:51 PM
Feb 2013

Euphemism for bigoted, paranoid, delusional, unstable heavily armed enemy of the United States.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
86. FFS
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 04:24 PM
Feb 2013

Why do we have to deal with these so called "people". They are terrorists and inciting violence from this little exchange alone.

Another example of cheesus riding dinosaurs.

-p

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
87. Those fucking assholes are too stupid to know they're projecting
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 06:06 PM
Feb 2013

big time. I wish we could ship those fetid turds to Somalia, since they're so "big and strong" and able to take care of themselves so well. Fuck off Pratt.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
89. Not Surprising
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:52 AM
Feb 2013

These wingnuts don't care how much damage their lies cause to this country they claim to love. Anything for a buck or a vote. I retired for financial reasons only to a remote corner of the MidWest, and half the people here are scared witless of Democrats in general, President Obama in particular. One poor woman whose elderly parents were both confined to nursing homes broke down in tears right in front of me because she thought Barack Obama was going to make the doctors pull the plug on her mom and dad. When her 'friend' started to scream, "That Obama! He's the very devil!" I slammed my hands down on the table and told her to shut the you-know-what up. She did, too, because I come from a military family and suffer from an inborn command voice which surprises people who've never heard it before, especially from a 5' tall little old lady. Anyway, there went another Bible study group I had to quit.

But my basic point is, there's no limit to the hate and hysteria that wingnuts like to stir up. I've heard things in my 7 years here that would curl your hair. When I pin some jackass' ears back, they call ME mean. I can hardly believe the crap these people swallow whole. Did you know - GASP - that our President wants to bring half of Kenya over here to keep him in power by any means? Why, no white women will be safe anywhere! to hear the teabaggers tell it.

SpartanDem

(4,533 posts)
105. I think you nailed it, these people can not stand the idea of a black man being president
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:23 PM
Feb 2013

let alone the idea of them being a minority. Conservatives are a afraid of being treated the same way they treated minorities in past.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
95. OK, maybe the mentally ill shouldn't be allowed to own guns.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:52 AM
Feb 2013

At least people who are clearly delusional.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
98. By coincidence, from Urban Dictionary...
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:36 AM
Feb 2013
1. prat 1230 up, 398 down

Basically someone whos a major idiot, or is delusional and dumb. Acts against logic and thinks hes self-righteous. AKA: Major dumbass.

Good example: Percy from HP and from 5th book
"You stupid prat!"
buy prat mugs & shirts
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2. prat 807 up, 231 down

n. English term, primarily used in United Kingdom. The literal meaning is "bottom" or "rump"; aka backside, buttocks, sacrum, tail end. This lends itself to the slang meaning of "ass," or "clueless person of arrogant stupidity." It is not always directly translatable to American slang. For example, if you used the term "prat hat" in the U.K., you would likely be laughed out of town by the locals.
I can't believe what an overbearing idiot he is. What a prat!
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3. prat 518 up, 206 down

a self-aggrandizing, pompous fuck. Someone who is full of themselves and, almost invariably, stupid as well. With a hint of 'deluded.'
"I'm getting really tired of listening to Vince brag about his conquests. What a prat."
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=prat

I guess Larry's such a prat he needs an extra "t" for emphasis.

Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

NOLALady

(4,003 posts)
101. Seriously?
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:45 PM
Feb 2013

"we were healing quite well as a nation on racial issues until Obama came along and now we have a lot of racial discord.”

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
102. From the Charles Manson playbook
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:01 PM
Feb 2013

"The coming race war". Except in Manson's case, it was the Beatles leading the subliminal charge in songs such as "Blackbird" and "Helter Skelter", and not the POTUS. It should be apparent by now that 20-25% of the population is prepared to accept any crazy theory, as long as it casts Obama in a negative and fear-provoking light.

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