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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 02:51 PM Feb 2013

Bartender Fired For Alerting Police To Drunken Patron Getting Behind Wheel

SHELBY, Ohio - A local bartender got fired from her job for calling police and alerting them to a drunken patron who was getting behind the wheel of a vehicle.

Twyla DeVito said she was proud to work at the American Legion Post in Shelby.

“They do a look of good for this community, for our veterans,” DeVito said.

Her tenure at the bar came to an abrupt end last week.

“I came into work, he was already there, pretty much hammered,” DeVito said.

....

“I called the police and said, ‘We have a very drunk person leaving the bar. He is going to kill someone or himself,’” the former bartender said.

Shelby Police Chief Charlie Roub said that one of his officers quickly located the driver and came to the same conclusion.

http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2013/02/22/shelby-bartender-fired-for-alerting-police-to-drunken-patron-getting-behind-wheel.html

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Bartender Fired For Alerting Police To Drunken Patron Getting Behind Wheel (Original Post) The Straight Story Feb 2013 OP
Yup, no good deed goes unpunished...knr joeybee12 Feb 2013 #1
sigh. ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2013 #3
In CT when I was growing up they passed such a law...I know MA does also... joeybee12 Feb 2013 #4
A legion bar sharp_stick Feb 2013 #2
If that driver got into an accident and injured/killed himself, the American Legion no_hypocrisy Feb 2013 #5
american legion takes the cash but cares not for the welfare of the outside community nt msongs Feb 2013 #6
Remember years ago asking my dad why he never went to legion meetings, 'casue they're a bunch of damn RKP5637 Feb 2013 #11
quote from her boss: demwing Feb 2013 #7
That about sums up where we are these days deutsey Feb 2013 #16
Makes no F'en sense, as usual. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2013 #8
I wasn't there, but.... NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #9
Did she serve him any drinks? Did she try to talk him out of driving home? So many unanswered monmouth3 Feb 2013 #10
Yeah, that's what I was thinking in my post #11. "Often, vets there are suffering from PTSD, RKP5637 Feb 2013 #13
As others have posted, dram shop nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #19
Damned if you do, damned if you don't gollygee Feb 2013 #12
Dram shop laws in Ohio... Historic NY Feb 2013 #14
Ohio has a Dram Shop law, so she probably saved the Post money. She saved herself. sinkingfeeling Feb 2013 #15
I'm thinking she has a court case given some of the statements made... Historic NY Feb 2013 #18
seems like the Shelby cops might want to camp the exit to the AL parking lot for a few months 0rganism Feb 2013 #17

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
3. sigh.
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 02:58 PM
Feb 2013

In Illinois we have dram shop laws. The tavern is liable for damages if as a result of their service, the drunk hurts someone.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
4. In CT when I was growing up they passed such a law...I know MA does also...
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 02:59 PM
Feb 2013

Apparently not Ohio, though.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
2. A legion bar
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 02:57 PM
Feb 2013

if you're anywhere near a legion bar you learn PDQ to never get too close to anyone pulling out of it's lot.

no_hypocrisy

(46,116 posts)
5. If that driver got into an accident and injured/killed himself, the American Legion
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:00 PM
Feb 2013

would have been sued for damages under the Dram Shop Act.

That bartender was protecting not only that patron, but the AL from potential liability.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
11. Remember years ago asking my dad why he never went to legion meetings, 'casue they're a bunch of damn
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:27 PM
Feb 2013

drunks was his reply. That said, he did support the post, donations and all. They also took care of him with a funeral when he passed on. He supported them, just not all the drinking. ... in retrospect, some of the guys might well have drunk a lot to forget what they went through during active duty in WWI and WWII.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
7. quote from her boss:
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:02 PM
Feb 2013
The commander of the post would not make a comment to 10TV News on camera but said that while DeVito did the right thing morally, she did not do the right thing for the business.


So , the American Legion is immoral?
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
9. I wasn't there, but....
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:03 PM
Feb 2013

I could say this:

Unless she took other measures first, calling the police after he left practically makes her an accessory.

(hear me out) NOT taking action can similarly make her an accessory to any carnage that might ensue from his leaving the establishment drunk.

I would love it if she'd called a cab, taken his keys, called upon his friends, or, finally, called the police in advance of his leaving.

My alcoholic step-father, George, who just passed away on Tuesday, used to take me to the VFW bar so he could drink.

Often, vets there are suffering from PTSD, have substance abuse issues, have no place else to go.

There had to be a better thing to do than to wait for him to leave and THEN call the cops on him.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
10. Did she serve him any drinks? Did she try to talk him out of driving home? So many unanswered
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:06 PM
Feb 2013

questions...

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
13. Yeah, that's what I was thinking in my post #11. "Often, vets there are suffering from PTSD,
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:29 PM
Feb 2013

have substance abuse issues, have no place else to go."

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
12. Damned if you do, damned if you don't
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:28 PM
Feb 2013

Let him drive without interference or a call to the cops, and you face liability for yourself and your employer. Get involved and you get fired for angering a customer.

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
15. Ohio has a Dram Shop law, so she probably saved the Post money. She saved herself.
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:35 PM
Feb 2013

Dram shop laws make it possible for bar owners and alcohol servers to be held financially liable if a customer becomes obviously intoxicated on their premises and subsequently injures someone or causes property damage, typically by driving drunk.

So, if a person has several alcoholic drinks at a restaurant or bar and is visibly intoxicated, and then gets in a car and kills someone on the way home, the owner of the serving establishment can be sued for damages.

http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-driving-dram-shop.html

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
18. I'm thinking she has a court case given some of the statements made...
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 09:13 PM
Feb 2013

so in the end ingnorance is going to cost the ingnorant.

0rganism

(23,955 posts)
17. seems like the Shelby cops might want to camp the exit to the AL parking lot for a few months
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:50 PM
Feb 2013

maybe the bar will still be in business after that.

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