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These are the only reasons for this legislation:
To try and shame and humiliate the woman out of having an abortion; to cause her as much psychological pain as possible and to strip of her dignity and humanity.
This is serious, and it reflects like nothing else I can think of, the depravity, cruelty and sickness of those proposing and supporting such legislation.
I think there will be a huge backlash from the increasing number of states trying to forcibly violate a woman. And Democrats shouldn't lose a single opportunity to use this to campaign against those republicans supports it.
kairos12
(12,861 posts)Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)"IN Senate committee approves abortion measures"
From the new bill -
"...women receiving abortion-inducing drugs at Indiana abortion clinics would be required to receive an ultrasound before and after dispensing RU-486."
Senator Vaneta Becker (R-Evansville) says "the bill places greater requirements on mostly low-income women."
And she notes the legislative proponents of the bill are men -
I dont think they fully understand because I dont think theyve ever had a vaginal ultrasound. And so maybe we should see if we can work on that as well.
Said Indiana Right to Life legislative director, Sue Swayze -
I got pregnant vaginally. Something else could come in my vagina for a medical test that wouldnt be that intrusive to me. So I find that argument a little ridiculous.
http://wbaa.org/post/senate-committee-approve...
firenewt
(298 posts)bobclark86
(1,415 posts)Good for her! I'm glad Sue didn't get pregnant from eating a bad tomato sandwich...
snooper2
(30,151 posts)a transvaginal probe sounds like something I need in my garage. Yo Brian, grab that probe to find the nut you just dropped behind the bellhousing
Johonny
(20,851 posts)they would.
This has everything to do with sick fantasies of dominating women and nothing to do with health, safety or human life.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)getting rid of a women's right to vote aren't really jokes at all. If they could get away with it, they would do it in a heartbeat.
loudsue
(14,087 posts)If they really used this awful procedure against the republicans in a smart way, it would totally destroy the republican party. I only wish we had dems who would insist on going on every talk show possible and super-size publicize this.
cali
(114,904 posts)they should be shouting about this.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)say all the women Democrats should be screaming about this, I think it would actually be much more productive to have it come from the men (standing alongside the women). We need to make "war on women" a mantra.
cali
(114,904 posts)the post and changed it.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)with every member of congress who supports the law coming out and saying they will go the mattresses on this one. That it is simply unacceptable to vote against this law and not expect consequences. This has to become VERY PUBLIC (yeah, I'm screaming - beats grinding my teeth into dust).
Taverner
(55,476 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)to undergo a transvaginal ultrasound would file rape charges against the Governor and every single member of the legislature that voted for this.
Isn't the very definition of rape non-consensual penetration?
cali
(114,904 posts)use of it. If they don't, no abortion, if they do then they've consented to a medical procedure.
timdog44
(1,388 posts)be considered a consent under duress. Which a lot of times they are in the condition to ask for an abortion is due to something that happened under duress.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)"under duress". Have it witnessed. Have someone with you making a video, if at all possible.
I sincerely hope the case gets made that an unwanted transvaginal ultrasound can be correctly equated with rape.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Every time I read another one of these legislatures taking up this law, I clench my teeth so hard, I'm surprised they're not broken.
MineralMan
(146,311 posts)one of these bills should experience having one of those probes inserted in a body orifice adjacent to the perineal area immediately after voting.
firenewt
(298 posts)can't help think there is money involved somewhere.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Dollface
(1,590 posts)With a foreign object. Sounds like we need help from the SVU.
Someone needs to ask one of the pervs if they get excited when they talk about it.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)these gals are strictly on their own; it's only the fetus that gives the GOP the vapors
erinlough
(2,176 posts)prohibit states from putting into law things that violate women. Yeah, we'll wait for that to happen in this congress.