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Thomas Teves, right, kisses his wife Caren Teves, center, at a press conference by families of victims of the Colorado theater shooting, in Aurora, Colo., on Tuesday, Aug. 28, 2012. Thomas and Caren Teves lost their son Alexander Teves, 24, in the shooting. Families of some of the 12 people killed in the Colorado theater shooting are upset with the way the millions of dollars raised since the tragedy are being distributed.
Aurora Victims Mom Calls McCain Town Hall Appalling
By David Taintor
TPM
February 22, 2013
The mother of a young man killed in the Aurora, Colo. movie theater massacre told TPM on Thursday she was appalled at the way Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) handled her question about an assault weapons ban at a town hall event in Phoenix.
I was very surprised that a senator, who has been in office for over 30 years, would address a grieving mother, who just lost her son exactly seven months prior yesterday was the 20th, I lost my son on 7-20-2012 to tell me that I needed some straight talk, Caren Teves said by phone.
At Wednesdays town hall, Teves told McCain that her son, Alex, was killed in the massacre, and she urged the senator to support a ban on assault weapons. McCain responded: I can tell you right now you need some straight talk. That assault weapons ban will not pass the Congress of the United States.
The crowd, many of whom appeared to be pro-gun, burst into cheers and applause at McCains comments. But Teves said she wasnt phased by that, and those cheers, as captured by a local TV news crew, were only part of the story.
The rest: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/02/mccain-gun-control-aurora-mother.php
I had a thread about this yesterday: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022408285
...in which I said:
He's probably right about the ban not getting through Congress (especially the House), but what kind of soulless, heartless, wretched, vomitous, gruesome, ghoulish piece of rancid flyblown shit tells a woman who lost her son in a massacre that she "needs some straight talk."
Oh, right, it's John McCain.
The pluperfect turd.
I shit on John McCain from great height.
geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)I don't think he ever got the psychiatric care he needed.
Hanoi Hilton
RKP5637
(67,109 posts)some of the help he probably needed. He also has a reputation as a loose cannon it seems forever. His experience plus that it seems to me at least must have created so much psychological trauma.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)But this guy had psychological issues long before that. Daddy issues, most likely, and many others.
He never grew up. He is still the little adolescent he was at the age of 12.
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)I think one of the ways you get through something like the Hanoi Hilton is being an irredeemable asshole when you go in. And John McCain has always been an irredeemable asshole.
geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)Not giving the guy a pass. But I do think he suffers untreated ptsd.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Cindy has to do? McCain is experiencing Reagan brain fade syndrome - or is it "sin-drone"?
kentuck
(111,098 posts)Because he will not win another election.
Laurian
(2,593 posts)You'd think he'd want to maintain some dignity in the twilight of his career. Being an asshole to appeal to the most right wing of his party will leave an ugly mark on his reputation, as well it should. He and his buddy Graham have become disgraceful human beings.
RKP5637
(67,109 posts)mwb970
(11,360 posts)He established a solid reputation as a thoughtless fool when he picked $arah for VP. Now he's undermining that with this "being an asshole constantly" business. What a horrible, grotesque little man he has turned into. I suppose he, like his fellow asshole cheney, will live forever?
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Or rather a horrible, grotesque little boy.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)McCain lost to Bush in 2001, and he was pissed, but he knew his time was coming. He was a war hero, he'd suffered, he waited his turn.
And then that illegitimate %^^%$^%$ Obama stole McCain's precious. Its eating him alive. And he hates the country for letting Obama have what was rightfully his.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)Berlum
(7,044 posts)Sick bastards.
AndyA
(16,993 posts)Words spoken about John McCain by someone who served with McCain in Vietnam.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)I dislike McCain and all, but he was shot down, ejected and landed in a pond surrounded by locals who were pissed off at being bombed.
He had numerous broken bones also so I don't see how escape and evasion was an option.
Was he supposed to kill himself not to get caught?
Semper Fi
The person who made that comment seems to think McCain didn't follow proper procedures under those circumstances, and it apparently wasn't the first time McCain had failed to do so.
McCain had a history of crashing/damaging planes, and it wasn't unusual for him to break the rules. He had a short fuse and many didn't want to have anything to do with him because of it. All pilots were taught tactics to evade being shot down, and it wasn't unusual for McCain to not follow the rules.
I wasn't there and neither were you, and I didn't challenge him for further details, but he isn't the only one who served with McCain who feels this way.
Except for the mission he was shot down. That was against a heavily defended power plant.
From Wiki: John McCain's capture and subsequent imprisonment began on October 26, 1967. He was flying his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam when his A-4E Skyhawk was shot down by a missile over Hanoi.[33][34] McCain fractured both arms and a leg ejecting from the aircraft,[35] and nearly drowned when he parachuted into Truc Bach Lake.[33] Some North Vietnamese pulled him ashore, then others crushed his shoulder with a rifle butt and bayoneted him.[33] McCain was then transported to Hanoi's main Hoa Lo Prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton.
Actually my squadron started WWII as Boyingtons Bastards. They were screw ups and hotheads too. Today they're the Blacksheep, VMA-214 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMA-214
Sometimes even screwups get it right.
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)malaise
(269,026 posts)If this were a drunk driver he would not dare speak to this lady the way he did.
He should be censured in the Senate.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)...cause he's just so "Mavricky". This sorrid incident is yet another example as I only saw McQueeg's assholish answer played up...with the crowd applause. Yep, he was sure "straight talkin'"...
This is the first time I got the full context of who asked the question and how it was handled. This makes it beyond shameful but that's par for the course with Grumps these days. He's all in for himself now...narcissism on a grand scale. He doesn't stand for anything other than what tickles his distorted and vainglorious fancy. The dude was rejected for President and he's out to punish any and all who did this "wrong" to him. The bastard is souless...
Island Deac
(104 posts)Several plane crashes, a car accident, and a handful of trainwrecks later, I give you the #1 AH of the US Senate....."Nobody knows as much as I do about everything" John McCain.. Taa Daa!!!
n2doc
(47,953 posts)until he remembers how to be human again.
hue
(4,949 posts)This is the crux of the difference between Dems & Re/Teapukes. They have NO HEART, NO SOUL, AND VERY TINY MINDS...
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)We all knew this already.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)mgardener
(1,816 posts)He lost my respect when he allowed sarah palin on the ticket.
I think he has lost his mind and can't find it. Also his heart. And his soul.
spanone
(135,843 posts)phantom power
(25,966 posts)It's almost like a movie I saw once
formercia
(18,479 posts)Sociopathy with Genetic roots. St. John McCain is not only has deep feelings of self-entitlement, but his behavior is also affected by his Genes.
It takes a Village to make an idiot, and a Warrior Nation to turn such Idiots into generations of Sociopathic Assholes.
drynberg
(1,648 posts)Bankrupt, should have left after the election in '08. No, he wasn't done with his "Bitter Tour of the AZ & USA"
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)loosen up..." John McCain to reporter asking him about calling somebody a jerk
chemenger
(1,593 posts)That's no different than saying "John McCain is being John McCain." Just as Coyoti said earlier.
Cha
(297,275 posts)America gets to see first hand what the United States Senate has to relentlessly endure.