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Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 09:50 PM Feb 2013

In attempt to stop early voting, MN Republican proposes denying the vote to all active duty military

It is no secret that Republicans have been trying desperately to prevent Democratic voters from being able to cast a ballot through Voter ID laws and other vote suppression measures. The Republicans efforts to restrict the vote in Minnesota have not been successful so far and they have grown desperate, so desperate in fact that they are willing to literally throw away the entire military vote in order to prevent a law that would make it easier for the people of this state to cast a ballot.

Republicans tried to push a Voter ID law on Minnesota last November through a Constitutional Amendment, unfortunately for Republicans most voters in this state are not as stupid as they wish we were and we rejected their amendment at the ballot box.

Now Minnesota Democrats have taken up a new voting measure, but unlike the Republicans proposal the Democrats want to expand people's opportunities to vote rather than limit them. A bill has been introduced to our state legislature that would bring early voting to the state of Minnesota.

As you can probably guess Republicans don't want to make it any easier for people to vote so they are determined to stop the early voting bill from going through. Their argument is that the state Constitution specifies the date of the election so therefore they claim it is unconstitutional to cast votes before election day. There is one problem with their argument however, people already have been casting votes before election day in Minnesota for years. While Minnesota does not have early voting it does provide absentee ballots to people who are going to be out of town or are for any other reason unable to make it the polls on election day. If it is unconstitutional to vote before election day through early voting then it would also mean that absentee ballots are unconstitutional as well, but no one would be stupid enough to try to ban absentee voting in the state would they?

Well it turns out that State Senator Warren Limmer is that stupid...

State Sen. Warren Limmer, R-Maple Grove, another sponsor of voter ID, raised doubts about the legality of absentee voting. Minnesotans can vote absentee before an election if they are disabled or sick or if they expect to be traveling during an election.

Sen. Ann Rest, DFL-New Hope, warned Limmer and other legislators against edging toward a constitutional showdown over absentee voting.

“Senator Limmer, you are disenfranchising the vote of every singe member of the military,” Rest said. “I don’t think you want to go there.”

Limmer shot back: “I am not going to sit here and be questioned about my motive and be warned not to go somewhere.”


http://www.startribune.com/politics/statelocal/192177471.html

Limmer is standing his ground, he may be disenfranchising all active duty military personnel along with many thousands of other ordinary Minnesotans, but he is telling us that he is going to go there and we better not warn him to stop.

Well Senator Limmer does not have to worry about me warning him not to go there, instead I will politely tell him to "please proceed".

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In attempt to stop early voting, MN Republican proposes denying the vote to all active duty military (Original Post) Bjorn Against Feb 2013 OP
It is the Bachman effect sarisataka Feb 2013 #1
Yep,that will show you. Take away those fighting soldiers rights away. It's like nana nana southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #2
Any possibility that veterans can call or visit or picket him? Let the people see who he's against. freshwest Feb 2013 #3
WTF? Baitball Blogger Feb 2013 #4
Absentee Voting moreland01 Feb 2013 #5
Welcome to DU Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #6
Good point. Many seniors rely on absentee ballots to vote. Coyotl Feb 2013 #9
How will that go over with our Military and their families? Keep Digging..teabagger Cha Feb 2013 #7
So where will the outrage be from the self appointed patriots like Hannity? alp227 Feb 2013 #8
I would love to see Hannity asked about this Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #11
Exactly, please, please procede wellstone dem Feb 2013 #10
When will they turn? DonB Feb 2013 #12
Serve your Country. Get your Rights stripped. blkmusclmachine Feb 2013 #13
Stop Them. (nt) NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #14
I will let them keep pushing this, it will only damage them Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #15
Former Member, City of Crystal Human Rights Commission. Can just imagine.... glinda Feb 2013 #16
Rural Townships Avis Feb 2013 #17
The "concerns" over absentee or early voters voting twice is bullshit. Voter rolls alfredo Feb 2013 #18

sarisataka

(18,656 posts)
1. It is the Bachman effect
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 10:07 PM
Feb 2013

her stupidity spreads among the (R)s like a virus.

Surprising that Limmer is so willing to throw away the military vote since it is generally assumed to be more Repub then Dem; or maybe he realizes that assumption may not always be true...

Either way, let him have his say, I'll even go to Menards and buy him more rope

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
2. Yep,that will show you. Take away those fighting soldiers rights away. It's like nana nana
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 10:11 PM
Feb 2013

boo boo on you. That will fix you dems.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
3. Any possibility that veterans can call or visit or picket him? Let the people see who he's against.
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 10:26 PM
Feb 2013

Time for these guys who screamed 'TRAITOR' at any person who dared question the Iraq War before, during or afterwards (Re: Hagel) to tell the truth about what they think about service people. After all, they and their buddies have made so many millions off the premises for war, and spent us into the poor house, because their 'sacrifice' had to be honored. The military folks that really served, not the ones who made the millions - need to be seen and heard until this is stopped.

moreland01

(739 posts)
5. Absentee Voting
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 10:55 PM
Feb 2013

I have worked as an election judge for the last 4 major elections in Minnesota including during the absentee voting season (and just down the road from Maple Grove). I can tell you that most (90%) of the people who cast absentee ballots are senior citizens. They will not be too happy at the thought that they might have to stand in line on election day. I would say that almost every single senior citizen who comes in to vote absentee puts as their reason "illness or disability". So now Mr. Limmer has alienated the military AND senior citizens; two very reliable republican voting blocks. I dare you Senator!

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
6. Welcome to DU
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:04 PM
Feb 2013

You make a very great point

There are lots of people who vote absentee in Minnesota. Seniors, students, military, travelers, and many others. No one would be happy if they tried to take absentee voting away.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
7. How will that go over with our Military and their families? Keep Digging..teabagger
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:10 PM
Feb 2013

assholes.. you're not Deep Enough.

Thanks Bjorn

alp227

(32,026 posts)
8. So where will the outrage be from the self appointed patriots like Hannity?
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:16 PM
Feb 2013

Those who profess their love for the troops and even send care packages overseas? Those flag wavers who boast about loving the country, do much they shout down any critic, you know those pointy headed academics our basically ANYONE whose brain is programmed for critical thinking?

and can you imagine if a DEMOCRAT was behind such a law that would disenfranchise the military? I guess IOKIYAR, AND if such a law willalso perfect those uppity dark skinned folk and dumb college kids from voting!

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
11. I would love to see Hannity asked about this
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 09:29 AM
Feb 2013

I really want to see Republicans take up this cause, they have no clue how stupid this kind of thing makes them look.

 

DonB

(53 posts)
12. When will they turn?
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:26 PM
Feb 2013

I sincerely hope that the vets, serving military, and seniors that feel their vote is threatened by a nut case teabagger who is just proposing a voter suppression bill are just as concerned with the other people who ARE presently having their votes suppressed and disenfranchised. We have to all stand together and SHOUT OUT and VOTE OUT all the jerks who are stealing our votes.

More and more rethugliCONs, CONservatives, and teabaggers pissed off and fighting with other rethugliCONs, CONservatives and teabaggers is not a bad thing for America. Let's help them eat their own.

"First they came for the Communists and I wasn't worried because I wasn't a Communist . . . . ."

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
13. Serve your Country. Get your Rights stripped.
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 01:20 AM
Feb 2013

Sounds like a win for the GOP. I think they should def. go ahead with this.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
15. I will let them keep pushing this, it will only damage them
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 01:37 PM
Feb 2013

We have Democrats in control of our State House and Senate a Democratic Governor and a Democratic Secretary of State. This guy has absolutely zero chance of doing away with absentee voting, all that pushing to end absentee voting is going to do is push more people away from the GOP.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
16. Former Member, City of Crystal Human Rights Commission. Can just imagine....
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:27 PM
Feb 2013

Member of Chamber of Commerce.

Avis

(150 posts)
17. Rural Townships
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:18 PM
Feb 2013

Our township as well as other rural townships can not afford to keep a building
open anymore so we have only absentee voting. He wants to not allow voting in
rural Minnesota?

alfredo

(60,074 posts)
18. The "concerns" over absentee or early voters voting twice is bullshit. Voter rolls
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:21 PM
Feb 2013

are clearly marked when a person has voted early or by absentee ballot.

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