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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:31 AM Feb 2013

French criticise 'ignorant' comments by US tyre boss

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21530619

A French minister has responded angrily to the boss of US tyremaker Titan who said he would have to be "stupid" to invest in the country.

Maurice Taylor made the claims in a letter to France's minister for industrial recovery, Arnaud Montebourg.

On Thursday, Mr Montebourg replied that Mr Taylor's "extreme" comments showed a "perfect ignorance of what our country is".

He added that 20,000 foreign firms are in France, employing 2 million people.
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sweetapogee

(1,168 posts)
3. I can think of 2 possible solutions
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 12:00 PM
Feb 2013

One solution and the best I feel is that the employees should buy the plant and run it. The second option would be for a French company like Michelin should buy it and run it. Then there is a combo solution, a 50% partial employee buyout coupled with a corporate buyout.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
4. Would you pay for 8 hours of work and settle for only 3?
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 12:14 PM
Feb 2013

When Taylor claimed this was the case at the tire plant, the union people did not dispute it. They said it was "the French way".

Is anyone surprised the plant is closing?

Nine

(1,741 posts)
5. Well, *Taylor* claims they didn't dispute it.
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 12:25 PM
Feb 2013

We don't know whether that's true or not. Look, if he doesn't want to invest in the plant, don't invest. I don't know much about French labor law, but a paid hour for lunch and breaks doesn't seem crazy. Americans used to work "9 to 5" with a paid lunch break and the country did just fine. Now there are plenty of American factories and businesses where employees work eight hours and get an unpaid lunch hour and those businesses are still not doing well.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
8. Has the union issued a statement?
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 12:46 PM
Feb 2013

Given the bad press they got, I would expect one, unless they're willing to let Taylor's statement stand.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
10. You're really stretching it, aren't you?
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 12:49 PM
Feb 2013

Why would they get into a pissing match with this fool...the Ministry has responded...no need for anything else.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
13. i don't think so
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 01:19 PM
Feb 2013

The fact is the plant is closing and apparently, the French government can't find anyone willing to invest in keeping it open. It's arguable whether Taylor was exaggerating, but at the same time, I didn't see anything dindicating the union was willing to deal on productivity.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
12. La lettre au vitriol de Titan à Montebourg
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 12:56 PM
Feb 2013
http://www.europe1.fr/Economie/La-lettre-au-vitriol-de-Titan-a-Montebourg-1421439/

Not exactly what you're looking for, but close perhaps. I don't speak French unfortunately. There's more French language links at the BBC article.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
7. Taylor actually was a Repuke presidential candidate in the 1996 campaign -
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 12:45 PM
Feb 2013

his problem was that he just pre-dated the tea-bagger movement by several years! Who knows what kind of traction (no pun intended) he would have gained if that movement was alive and active back then.

Yavin4

(35,443 posts)
11. Hey France! Just Tell Mr. Taylor, You Don't Employ Us. You Don't Get To Sell To Us.
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 12:53 PM
Feb 2013

Sell your tires to your Indian and Chinese workers. I'm sure that they can buy your tires with their $1 per hour wages.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
14. Exactly. That's what we should do here in the US.
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 02:40 PM
Feb 2013

If our workers aren't good enough to make their sh*tty products, they shouldn't be allowed to sell the crap here. That would effectively close the biggest consumer market in the world. That MIGHT get the bastards' attention.

Bake

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