Well. Watching Hubris for a second time because I'm shocked I haven't learned anything new.

[proud2BlibKansan]

I knew I shouldn't have turned it on at all. Just angry all over again.

This is why I had zero respect for Tim Russert. He let Cheney sit there, Sunday after Sunday, telling one lie after another, and never once challenged him. Never once asked him to back up the bullshit he was peddling.

And why aren't any of these people in jail?

Damn. Just damn.

[Betsy Ross]

1. Yeah, nothing new.

Just a lot of facts in one place crammed into 45 minutes, hopefully enough information to wake up a few more people.

[TwilightGardener]

2. Wish it was two hours, or even three. I would have liked to see

more examination of PNAC, the neocons, and their members--and where they are today, still controlling the GOP with think tanks like AEI and pushing for the next war. And then more examination of how Congress did not exercise due diligence in the run-up and vote. And then how everything went bad by 2004, terrible by 2005, hopeless by 2006, all that loss of life and taxpayer money. And then they sold us on escalation (surge) to fix their screw-ups, and ended up using our money to buy off insurgents. I guess I wanted more than just a focus on the initial lies--I wanted more consequences and the lessons learned, and how we're coming to grips with this today.

[earthside]

3. Still tops on my list of Obama administration disappointments.

It is almost criminal in my view that these crimes were excused by Pres. Obama.

I wish the documentary had spent some time on the fact that because of Hans Blix and the UN weapons inspectors, we all knew that there weren't any WMD programs or stockpiles in Iraq prior to Bush's ordering the unprovoked attack.

So, even for the very gullible, for the neocon dead-enders who argue that Bush/Cheney had 'bad' intelligence, the plain fact is that we knew there weren't any WMD in Iraq on March 19, 2003 when we dropped the first bombs on Baghdad. Period.

Bush. Cheney. Rumsfeld. Rice. Wolfowitz. Feith. Kristol. Tenet.
Vileness in human form.

[proud2BlibKansan]

4. That and the drones, yes.

[tarheelsunc]

7. Could you imagine the BS that would come from the conservatives if Obama went after them?

They already say he is "too liberal" and he blames his predecessor too much. If he had these criminals put on trial, they would say he's playing partisan games and spending too much time focusing on the past instead of worrying about fixing the problems we have now. He couldn't even have a simple golf weekend without the conservatives freaking out.

[MindPilot]

5. I made that comment during the show last night

There is nothing new here. Nothing that--at the time--anyone with two brain cells and a modem couldn't figure out. And there wasn't much background about how the neocons and their New American Century manifesto. Surprisingly there was very very little about how remarkably unresponsive our representatives were to the will of the people or how the media completely buried the anti-war movement.

[HereSince1628]

6. Being a video documentary mostly built around old news videoes...

I wasn't really expecting new "news".

I suppose if a person is really an expert on the run-up to the 2003 invasion they might detect some detail as being new or different from it's earlier presentation.

I had hoped that the documentary would have the advantage of hindsight being 20/20 and that time might have given some clarity that would help make the significant steps be more obvious than they were in 2001-2003. I think the documentary achieved some of that in its story of the aluminum tubes.

But, overall, I didn't get a sense that the documentary was much more insightful than the then contemporary threads on DUv1.