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madamesilverspurs

(15,806 posts)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:14 PM Feb 2013

Magazine size discussion - Colorado

Current discussions in the Colorado House, legislation to limit the size of magazines. Disheartening, and more than a little sickening, to listen to the Republicans dismiss the legitimate concerns as "feelgood" legislation that won't "keep us safe". Remarkable commentary given that our safety, in their view, takes a distant back seat to the right of a gun owner to be able to shoot fifteen people before having to go to the trouble of reloading.


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Magazine size discussion - Colorado (Original Post) madamesilverspurs Feb 2013 OP
I'd go as far as requiring civilian weapons to be fit with electronic rate-of-fire limiters. backscatter712 Feb 2013 #1
Not viable technically ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #3
Why not? backscatter712 Feb 2013 #4
Because electronic firing mechanisms are not legal as per the ATF, a trigger and firing pin must be SQUEE Feb 2013 #5
Sometimes the pols amaze us and get something right early on ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #2

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
1. I'd go as far as requiring civilian weapons to be fit with electronic rate-of-fire limiters.
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:23 PM
Feb 2013

That's the point of a magazine cap - to slow down a weapon's firing rate after a fashion.

I'd take the more direct route - require all civilian firearms to be permanently fitted with a device that will electronically activate a mechanism that blocks firing when the gun has fired say more than ten rounds in five seconds or 20 rounds in 30 seconds. The limiter will prevent the gun from firing until an internal timer expires, thereby ensuring that the weapon has an absolute, programmable cap on its rate of fire.

Circumventing the rate-of-fire limiter would be a felony akin to illegally possessing a machine gun or illegally converting a gun to full-auto fire. Off to Federal PMITA prison...

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
4. Why not?
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 03:50 PM
Feb 2013

What's hard about a microcontroller, a small battery, a small solenoid to flip a switch that is mechanically similar to safety switches already available on most firearms?

SQUEE

(1,315 posts)
5. Because electronic firing mechanisms are not legal as per the ATF, a trigger and firing pin must be
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 04:04 PM
Feb 2013

mechanically linked.

It has been attempted, and numerous large bore military systems do use electronic actuation. But to date no electronic firing system has been approved.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
2. Sometimes the pols amaze us and get something right early on
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:36 PM
Feb 2013

The limits are feel goods...they really will not materially impact long term rate of fire. The ~15 round magazines for most modern pistols is not high capacity, its the normal design capacity.

A reasonable limit is that the magazines must fit entirely within the hand grip and that can be done without a vote of Congress by the BATF

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