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OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:57 PM Feb 2013

Really interesting stuff about Chuck Hagel we all should know

Groups who support Hagel’s nomination:

Veterans of Foreign Wars
Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America
AMVETS
VoteVets.org
Military Officers Association of America
Non Commissioned Officers Association of the USA
Vietnam Veterans of America
The American Legion
Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund

Holding the rank of Sergeant (E-5), he served as an infantry squad leader in the 9th Infantry Division. Hagel served in the same infantry squad as his younger brother Tom, and they are believed to be the only American siblings to do so during the Vietnam War. They also ended up saving each other's lives on separate occasions. While serving during the war, he received the the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry, two Purple Hearts, Army Commendation Medal, and the Combat Infantryman Badge.

Shards from a Viet Cong mine are still embedded in Chuck Hagel’s chest, 44 years after his infantry squad walked into a booby trap in the Vietnam jungle. Scar tissue marks the left side of his face from another mine explosion, barely a month after his first brush with death.

Under President Ronald Reagan, Chuck Hagel was named deputy administrator of the Veterans Administration. In 1982, however, he resigned his post over a disagreement with VA Administrator Robert P. Nimmo, who was intent on cutting funding for VA programs. Nimmo had referred to veterans groups as "greedy", and to Agent Orange as not much worse than a "little teenage acne."

And this is the guy Ted Cruz was calling a traitor!!

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Really interesting stuff about Chuck Hagel we all should know (Original Post) OregonBlue Feb 2013 OP
Ted cruz did not serve riverbendviewgal Feb 2013 #1
I would like to. What e-mail address did you use for McCain? SunSeeker Feb 2013 #5
I went to his government senator website riverbendviewgal Feb 2013 #6
Too bad. I know that is how all the congressional sites are set up. SunSeeker Feb 2013 #7
There is a place for a certain state on his site... riverbendviewgal Feb 2013 #8
I shall do just that! In fact, I e-mail ol' McSane regularly! LibGranny Feb 2013 #11
Another chickenhawk Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2013 #16
I emailed Harry Reid. He must rethink his "gentlemen's agreement". He is not dealing with gentlemen. OregonBlue Feb 2013 #2
Ther are only two possible conclusions one can draw... Blue Idaho Feb 2013 #9
Impressive! Thanks OregonBlue Cha Feb 2013 #3
Thanks. Mind if I post this on my Facebook page? I've researched and know it's true. mountain grammy Feb 2013 #4
Please spread it far and wide. Everyone needs to know what traitorous bastards these Teahadists are! OregonBlue Feb 2013 #10
Didn't he also own the company who produced the voting machines that got him elected? 1-Old-Man Feb 2013 #12
There are a few reasons this nomination is troubling mountain grammy Feb 2013 #13
Sorry, but stating as a fact that Inuca Feb 2013 #15
As far as Cruz goes, he pulled the Iran and North Korea references out of his ass, mountain grammy Feb 2013 #18
That is exactly right.... Slit Skirt Feb 2013 #14
Actually they do Inuca Feb 2013 #20
Here's something that sort of addresses it: TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #17
Republican Chickenhawks are the only group against Hagel Berlum Feb 2013 #19

riverbendviewgal

(4,253 posts)
1. Ted cruz did not serve
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:59 PM
Feb 2013

and he is joe mccarthy reincarnated.

I emailed John McCain and said he should be ashamed.

I do suggest all you Americans do the same.

riverbendviewgal

(4,253 posts)
6. I went to his government senator website
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 06:38 PM
Feb 2013

you can contact him that way.

I had to put in a USA zip code.( I lied) but put in all my address.

I told him he should be ashamed. and his party. too

Canadians really think he is terrible. and Obama is so great.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
7. Too bad. I know that is how all the congressional sites are set up.
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 06:49 PM
Feb 2013

They only want to hear from their own constituents--and the sites will divert you to your representative if you try to e-mail anyone else. That is why I was hoping maybe you had an actual e-mail address for him. My Senators are Feinstein and Boxer, and they are already voting the way I want them to.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
2. I emailed Harry Reid. He must rethink his "gentlemen's agreement". He is not dealing with gentlemen.
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 05:03 PM
Feb 2013

He's dealing with Republicans and Teahadists.

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
9. Ther are only two possible conclusions one can draw...
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 06:54 PM
Feb 2013

Either Harry is unwilling to change the long standing traditions of the Senate or he wants to keep things exactly as they are to protect his own self interests.

I'm beginning to think Harry likes things just the way they are.

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
12. Didn't he also own the company who produced the voting machines that got him elected?
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 07:36 PM
Feb 2013

Wasn't Chuck''s first election the first one in which the results were exactly the opposite of what the exit polls predicted they should have been?

mountain grammy

(26,626 posts)
13. There are a few reasons this nomination is troubling
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 07:58 PM
Feb 2013

and the fact Hagel, at the very least, bought that senate seat is one. His previously stated anti gay sentiments are another. That said, I think the President nominated him because he has the credentials to cut back the military. He will stand up to the brass. For this reason, I support his nomination. The military establishment needs some push back and I think Hagel will do it. And I hope he takes an axe to the military spending in the states his opponents represent.

Inuca

(8,945 posts)
15. Sorry, but stating as a fact that
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:15 PM
Feb 2013

at he very least, he bought his Senate seat is akin to Cruz saying that he has been paid by Iran or North Korea. It's not based on fact, just inuendo.

mountain grammy

(26,626 posts)
18. As far as Cruz goes, he pulled the Iran and North Korea references out of his ass,
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:39 PM
Feb 2013

not a whisper of truth or fact there. The money spent on Hagel's senate race did help get him elected, and that's a fact. But you're right, there's no evidence he "bought" his seat, and all talk of election rigging is inuendo.

Inuca

(8,945 posts)
20. Actually they do
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 10:49 AM
Feb 2013

I saw quite a few tweets claiming that Obama stole both elections with Hagel's help. And no, I am NOT kidding (I wish I was...)

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
17. Here's something that sort of addresses it:
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:37 PM
Feb 2013

"Stung by Nelson's barrage, Hagel countered with an ad in The Omaha World-Herald calling them "the most scurrilous and false attacks ever made in Nebraska politics." Not the forgiving sort, he has never quite forgotten his grudge against Nelson, who, for the last five years, has been the state's junior senator. Senator Nelson has since been heard to ask how it could be that he managed to get over a big loss while his colleague has yet to get over a big win.

In the blogosphere, where conspiracy theories enjoy a certain immortality, the scale of Hagel's upset victories in 1996 made him an object of suspicion after the Florida voting fiasco of 2000. Here was a virtual unknown who'd once been an officer of a company that made the voting machines on which most ballots were cast in Nebraska. But these were scanners, not digital counters; paper ballots survived, available for a recount that neither of his rivals sought. (When he ran for re-election in 2002, he won even bigger, capturing 83 percent of the vote, a Nebraska record. Out on the Web, suspicion lived on.) "


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/12/magazine/12hagel.html?pagewanted=all

No one in Nebraska thought he stole the election, apparently. Not even Ben Nelson.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
19. Republican Chickenhawks are the only group against Hagel
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:40 PM
Feb 2013

Republican Chickenhawks hate honorable US Veterans, as they show over and over and over.

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