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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:07 PM Feb 2013

Wonder how much fuel Cruise lines consume annually, and how long they can continue in business.

Am I the only one who has been thinking about the impact of less oil/gas resources, thus higher prices,
and the effect on the transportation systems which have so much invested in continued use of fossil fuels.?

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Wonder how much fuel Cruise lines consume annually, and how long they can continue in business. (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 OP
A lot. MADem Feb 2013 #1
I just love that DU folks can come up with such good answers so quickly! dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #18
Hi-tech future cruising! ? RKP5637 Feb 2013 #2
Reminds me of those "old" pics of SF piers dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #3
With hemp sails and rigging IDemo Feb 2013 #20
Exactly!!! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2013 #23
"Maltese Falcon" Worlds 3rd largest Sailing Yacht Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #4
awesome yacht. though it looks cluttered in some way loli phabay Feb 2013 #5
It'll do. I'll just need one, please. RKP5637 Feb 2013 #6
I looked again ... I know why it looked somehow familiar ... the RKP5637 Feb 2013 #7
Ahhh...the beer drinkers Rorschach test.... dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #9
I'll drink to that!!! RKP5637 Feb 2013 #14
Damn...now that you mention it...I suddenly feel thirsty... Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #10
LOL RKP5637 Feb 2013 #13
Inside would make a Bond Villian Proud Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #15
More... Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #16
what is "2 × Deutz TBD 620 "???? dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #8
engines and props I presume loli phabay Feb 2013 #12
Around 200 gallons/mile. So with 4000 aboard, 20 passenger miles per gallon FarCenter Feb 2013 #11
Wonder if those folks in the Floating World ship will end up stranded. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #19
More and bigger is no BETTER. Greed gets the greedy in the end. Stocks should tumble. nt kelliekat44 Feb 2013 #17
Cruise ships pay for their fuel. maxsolomon Feb 2013 #21
Back in the old days, I believe they were fueled with steam. However, that Cleita Feb 2013 #22

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. A lot.
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:17 PM
Feb 2013
http://adventure.howstuffworks.com/cruise-ship3.htm

Modern cruise ships use either gas turbine or diesel electric engines as their power source for propulsion, as well as for the ship's systems. The larger the cruise ship, the greater the demand for electrical power. Some larger ships rely on two different power sources: one for propulsion and one exclusively for electrical power.
Aero derivative gas turbine engines generate heat that is converted from mechanical energy into electrical power. To achieve this, compressed air is ignited in a combustion chamber. The hot exhaust is forced over a turbine that spins to mechanically drive a shaft. This power can then be used to spin electrical generators. Diesel-electric engines work much the same way, yet use a direct drive system rather than a turbine. Output shafts are connected to electrical generators to produce electrical power.
Both engine types require fuel, and lots of it. For example, the QE2 consumes about 380 tons of fuel daily if it's traveling at a speed of 28.5 knots and carries enough fuel to sail nonstop for 12 days [source: Warwick]. Cruise ships usually fill up at various ports, using fueling barges like floating gas stations. They use a lower-grade diesel that tends not to burn as cleanly as road-going diesel-powered vehicles. No doubt when prices rise at the pump, cruise ships also feel the pinch.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
3. Reminds me of those "old" pics of SF piers
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:30 PM
Feb 2013

where all you could see was a long wall of masts and sails.

I read that some of the anchored ships were sunk to provide a bed for extending the shoreline at the waterfront.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
4. "Maltese Falcon" Worlds 3rd largest Sailing Yacht
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:43 PM
Feb 2013

On 4 November 2007, in a 60 Minutes profile, Perkins suggested the yacht cost more than $150 million, but less than $300 million, refusing to be more specific
Type: Luxury yacht
Displacement: 1,240 t (1,220 long tons; 1,367 short tons)
Length: 88 m (289 ft)
Beam: 12.6 m (41 ft)
Draught: 6 m (20 ft)
Propulsion: 2 × Deutz TBD 620
Sail plan: Full-rigged ship
Sail area 2,400 m2 (25,833 sq ft)
Speed: 19.5 knots (36.1 km/h; 22.4 mph)
Capacity: 12 passengers
Crew: 18


 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
5. awesome yacht. though it looks cluttered in some way
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:49 PM
Feb 2013

If I won the mega millions this I would definetly buy.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
7. I looked again ... I know why it looked somehow familiar ... the
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 05:05 PM
Feb 2013

sails look sort of like 3 beer kegs in a row!

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
11. Around 200 gallons/mile. So with 4000 aboard, 20 passenger miles per gallon
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 05:11 PM
Feb 2013

And then add in the energy costs of air travel to/from the ports.

In a few years when oil is $200 / barrel, the cruise ship industry will start to suffer.

As will leisure travel in general. Now that most of air travel is in 4 companies, expect no additions in capacity and a slow transition of existing capacity from leisure to business and luxury class travel as energy prices go up.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
19. Wonder if those folks in the Floating World ship will end up stranded.
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 05:50 PM
Feb 2013

True, it is a floating condo for 300 very very very rich and select passengers, but when the cost to fuel it zooms...

callled ResidenSea

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
22. Back in the old days, I believe they were fueled with steam. However, that
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 05:58 PM
Feb 2013

meant they had to burn something like coal or oil to make the steam. The designation on the ships names would read like "SS Look Out" meaning "Steam Ship Look Out". I wonder what they fuel the new ships with? I really don't know. It would be interesting if there was a way to run ships on steam again without the dirty fuel. Maybe a clever inventor could come up with a way to fuel steam ships with solar panels. Of course there is the old fashioned way, SAILS! But in this case the sails could be fueling the steam. I dunno, I am running off some silly stuff now.

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