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Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 07:01 AM Feb 2013

Gas prices hit a historic high: What's driving them up?

A combination of high crude prices, refinery shutdowns, and early speculation has sent gas prices soaring to seasonal highs earlier than usual this year, with no signs of prices at the pump falling until spring, according to recent estimates.

Gas prices have climbed every day for the past 25 days, reaching a national average of $3.59 per gallon Monday, the most expensive national average ever for Feb. 11, according to AAA.

During just the past two weeks, average prices have climbed almost 25 cents, the biggest jump in gas prices in almost a year.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/2013/0211/Gas-prices-hit-a-historic-high-What-s-driving-them-up?nav=87-frontpage-entryNineItem

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Gas prices hit a historic high: What's driving them up? (Original Post) Sherman A1 Feb 2013 OP
3.75 here in sw ohio sunwyn Feb 2013 #1
same in cleveland leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #2
Went up to $4.40 during the Republican reign of George AWOL Bush (The Lesser) Berlum Feb 2013 #3
Yup, when the bushes took over our nation, fasttense Feb 2013 #4
And I recall the Dim Son bragging after his first "election" mac56 Feb 2013 #9
Seriously? Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #8
They list the last item that is really driving the price glowing Feb 2013 #5
Because they can. hobbit709 Feb 2013 #6
This is the right answer. Tikki Feb 2013 #14
Why aren't they higher? Freddie Stubbs Feb 2013 #21
Prob some kind of penalty kicks in if not spread out over year/quarter/whatever.. Tikki Feb 2013 #23
$3.35 in south east Texas oneshooter Feb 2013 #7
One word: China Spider Jerusalem Feb 2013 #10
When will there be an uprising demanding we nationalize the oil companies libtodeath Feb 2013 #11
About the same time we nationalize the health care system ..... oldhippie Feb 2013 #18
Doesn't everyone here know it was the Koch brothers by now? Fight2Win Feb 2013 #12
Koch brothers stole from us to buy our politicians and even more legislation, now in every state Fight2Win Feb 2013 #16
Greedd and the power to raise prices. nt kelliekat44 Feb 2013 #13
Another day Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2013 #15
After hours derivitives trading. And greed. Initech Feb 2013 #17
The answer's always the same: greed. sinkingfeeling Feb 2013 #19
OPEC is! healthnut7 Feb 2013 #20
The Dow is up, speculation is up. Myrina Feb 2013 #22
 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
4. Yup, when the bushes took over our nation,
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 07:23 AM
Feb 2013

I could buy a gallon of gas for 99 cents, when the idiot left office, I was lucky if I could get it for under $4.00.

Next time you get upset about the high cost of the gas thank a RepubliCON.

mac56

(17,574 posts)
9. And I recall the Dim Son bragging after his first "election"
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 10:00 AM
Feb 2013

about how he was going to persuade his OPEC buddies to open up the spigots a little more.

Wonder how that worked out.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
5. They list the last item that is really driving the price
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 08:03 AM
Feb 2013

and that is speculation. It's so time to move off this oil shit.

Tikki

(14,559 posts)
23. Prob some kind of penalty kicks in if not spread out over year/quarter/whatever..
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:56 PM
Feb 2013

They got people who know how to play the game...







Tikki

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
10. One word: China
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 10:05 AM
Feb 2013


Conventional crude oil production has been flat since 2005. Shale oil, tar sands, and deepwater are making up some of the shortfall in conventional crude, but those resources are not economically viable with oil below a certain price point ($80-100 a barrel or so). The US still imports about half its oil; therefore US fuel prices are determined largely by the world market price, which is determined by demand (limited supply of oil, increasing demand from China and other developing countries). Total world demand for oil has increased by over 20 million barrels a day in the last 15 years or so; China alone has accounted for nearly a third of that increased demand.

libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
11. When will there be an uprising demanding we nationalize the oil companies
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 10:19 AM
Feb 2013

they will report record profits and then slide the price back a little until oh lookey it is soon the summer driving season so the prices soar again.
We are endlessly trying to survive with a corporate boot on our neck.

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
18. About the same time we nationalize the health care system .....
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:45 AM
Feb 2013

And the banking industry, and transportation ...

 

Fight2Win

(157 posts)
12. Doesn't everyone here know it was the Koch brothers by now?
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:31 AM
Feb 2013

Koch brothers introduced speculation, that is how they are buying the country now....

 

Fight2Win

(157 posts)
16. Koch brothers stole from us to buy our politicians and even more legislation, now in every state
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:42 AM
Feb 2013

Koch Industries CEO Charles Koch
In April, ThinkProgress caused a stir when we uncovered a series of Koch Industries corporate documents revealing the company’s role as an oil speculator. Like many oil companies, Koch uses legitimate hedging products to create price stability. However, the documents reveal that Koch is also participating in the unregulated derivatives markets as a financial player, buying and selling speculative products that are increasingly contributing to the skyrocketing price of oil. Excessive energy speculation today is at its highest levels ever, and even Goldman Sachs now admits that at least $27 of the price of crude oil is a result from reckless speculation rather than market fundamentals of supply and demand. Many experts interviewed by ThinkProgress argue that the figure is far higher, and out of control speculation has doubled the current price of crude oil.

http://thinkprogress.org/report/koch-oil-speculation/

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,438 posts)
15. Another day
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:41 AM
Feb 2013

Another excuse.



BTW do they not ever plan for these shutdowns/maintenence, etc. Must be a great gig to be able to shut down your factories/refineries, raise your prices, and then blame the resulting increases on shutting down.

healthnut7

(249 posts)
20. OPEC is!
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:55 AM
Feb 2013

They don't have to have a reason, it seems, they do it just because. In Canada there is an abundance of it and we pay more then in the USA.

If there is a holiday coming up they crank it up, knowing people will be travelling. Then once everyone is back it goes down a little.

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