Why is Ted Nugent being allowed to attend the State of the Union address?

[Hugabear]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/feb/11/ted-nugent-be-guest-state-union/

While other members of Congress are hosting gun-control advocates for Tuesday's State of the Union address, Rep. Steve Stockman has given one of his visitor's gallery tickets to Ted Nugent, the conservative gun-rights supporter.

"I am excited to have a patriot like Ted Nugent joining me in the House Chamber to hear from President Obama," Mr. Stockman said in a statement announcing the choice. "After the address I'm sure Ted will have plenty to say."

Why would anybody who has threatened the President be allowed anywhere near him?

[EastKYLiberal]

1. Jesus Christ. Democrats ARE soft on crime when people like Ted Nugent walk freely. nt

[hack89]

2. While Nugent should not be there

the President would be wise to ignore this provocation - wrestling with pigs just gets everyone muddy. He needs to stay on message and not allow any distractions.

[TwilightGardener]

3. Plus, IIRC he is not always continent of feces.

Who wants to sit next to that for two hours?

[proud2BlibKansan]

4. Wow. That's so wrong.

Sure hope he bathes first.

[Drale]

5. Because the Secret Service is hoping he'll try something

and they can take him down for good.

[Robb]

47. That he's allowed speaks volumes, actually.

Serious people do not consider him a credible threat to anything.

[JoePhilly]

54. I think Ted will be wearing THIS all night!

[secondvariety]

84. Good one.

Cracked me up.

[quinnox]

6. frisk him thoroughly

and not just for guns, but bombs.

[lastlib]

22. use rubber gloves in case he shits his pants again.....

[quinnox]

23. for sure, and I think a body cavity search

would be something to consider, in light of the threats he has made.

[Jackpine Radical]

33. I doubt the Secret Service is afraid of him. He hasn't got the guts to blow himself up.

Or to shoot anyone either. For which fact I'm profoundly grateful.

The man is a chickenhawk who--uh--crapped out on going to Vietnam, and he sure as hell isn't going to put his narcissistic little self at any kind of risk now.

Anyway, the SOTU crowd isn't exactly selected for refinement, decency or even sanity. Otherwise they wouldn't let at least 1/3 of Congress in, not to mention an equally large proportion of the Supreme Court.

[Left Coast2020]

124. The Secret Service should just take him into a back room for a friendly chat.

[Jackpine Radical]

125. For some reason, the word "truncheon" comes to mind.

[lastlib]

133. ...with Guido....

an' a coupla his boyz.............

Teddy'll be shittin' his britches (again) in a minute!

[vankuria]

144. He only goes after defenseless animals

[The Wielding Truth]

90. It is weird for someone who has threatened so many times to kill the President .

[onenote]

95. Why do you think the Secret Service hasn't moved to have him arrested?

Is it (a) because they don't regard him as a real threat or (b) they actually share his views or (c) they're big Amboy Dukes fans?

[tavalon]

117. Definitly (a)

Sure, they will watch him but they know as well as we do, that he's a buffoon.

[Mike Daniels]

7. What are the odds that he gets escorted out for saying something during the speech

Does anyone think Nugent is going to be able to keep his mouth shut in the gallery once Obama brings up gun control?

[derby378]

16. Are you anticipating a "You LIE!" moment from Uncle Ted?

On one hand, Nugent has made a host of incendiary remarks about elected officials, including Obama, and some of them could be considered threatening.

On the other hand, Nugent has at least one NFA tax stamp for legal full-auto, and the Secret Service has paid him a visit to discuss, among other things, the possiblility of having those stamps revoked.

That said, I give it 50-50.

[arely staircase]

111. good analysis

eom

[appleannie1]

29. He can't stand not being in the spotlight. He can't help himself.

[Gin]

71. Yep...hes a spotlight whore...

May he experience his prediction.

[Claybrains]

32. I wonder if Vegas number guys have that info, because I'd like to take bet. nt

[leftynyc]

40. He wont do anything but

sit there and keep his mouth shut. Nothing but a coward under all the moronic bluster. He's already proved that.

[Hugabear]

42. He'll have plenty to say afterwards

But you're right...he's too much of a coward to cause a scene during the actual SOTU.

[leftynyc]

43. He'll run to fox news

and sean hannity right afterwards.

[hamsterjill]

48. That's exactly right.

Remember, he said that if Obama were re-elected, he'd either be dead or in jail. I'm still waiting...

He struts and fluffs, but when it comes right down to it, Teddy will sit there and do nothing.

Then he'll be all over Fox News screeching about how tough he acted.

[Ghost in the Machine]

63. Here's a Countdown Clock for him being dead or in jail..

http://countingdownto.com/countdown/176293#.UL-oqrQGU84.facebook

On April 12th, 2012 the Motor City Meathead promised us: ”If Barack Obama becomes the president in November, again, I will be either be dead or in jail by this time next year.”

I assume he was trying to get out the vote for Obama. Anyway, here is a helpful reminder to him. Do the right thing Ted

Peace,

Ghost

[question everything]

113. Oh, this will make his day

and will give him publicity for the next four years, or so.

Still, I thought that he was going to be dead or in jail, as "promised."

[tavalon]

118. He's not good at fulfilling his promises, unfortunately

[mikeysnot]

8. Some of the best arguments for gun control come

from gun nuts themselves, so this might be interesting.

TN is a frickin moron.

Love to see him act up and get tazered on live tv.

[OriginalGeek]

65. Just the thought of him getting tazered made me lol

If it actually happened I would laugh so hard I'd be ineligible to be drafted...

[Flashmann]

9. Maybe he'll scream some insanity

From the cheap seats.....Show his beet red baboon ass for millions to see on live TV.....

[Beaverhausen]

17. That was my first thought too

[hedgehog]

20. Absolutely!

[Scuba]

31. Bingo.

[JuniperLea]

53. He seems very dim witted... addled even...

Maybe he'll make a scene and get his baboon ass tossed out! Now THAT's entertainment!

[Flashmann]

61. He seems very dim witted

Speaking to this,off topic as it is..

I began studying guitar last year and have had many conversations with local musicians,who are largely apolitical,on the finer points of musicianship,in general....I can't count the times Nuge the stooge has been cited as an example of what NOT to strive for...The main complaint being that virtually everything he's done is in the same key,A,and is considered unimaginitive...Or,as you say,dim witted.....

[JuniperLea]

143. Yep... one trick pony

Loud and snarly in one key doesn't make you a good guitarist I remember when my brother learned to play Cat Scratch Fever and drove us all to distraction... NOT the summer of love! Sheesh!

[TexasProgresive]

73. And reach into his poopie pants for some shit to hurl. n/t

[atreides1]

10. Patriot...are you fucking kidding?

He isn't a patriot, he's a coward!!!

[lpbk2713]

11. He represents the pedophile draft dodger contingent.

Fair play and all that.

[maxsolomon]

12. The Donald Trump of Firearms

The GOP rep who gave him the tickets is trying to garner attention. Ted will swing his dick around after, talking shit and nonsense.

The tales told by an idiot will drown out other voices, and that's the intent. Fill the Media Space with claptrap, and keep facts and logic out.

The GOP political strategy is now basically a multi-year Gish Gallop.

[Hugabear]

18. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he were to run for Congress

Either in 2014 or 2016. If there's one thing that idiot loves, it's attention. With all the attention he's been getting lately, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he decided to run for Congress.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

86. If he doesn't wind up in jail or dead

by this November.

[Jackpine Radical]

35. I think you've called it, Max.

[Cha]

96. Exactly. Thanks max

[Brickbat]

13. Shitting your pants and pretending to be crazy to avoid the draft is patriotic?

I'll be darned.

[tavalon]

119. whoulda thunk it, huh?

[Cleita]

14. Will he get the same treatment Cindy Sheehan got because Bushie didn't like her T Shirt?

No, I doubt it because our side still believes in free speech

[HooptieWagon]

15. Good question.

On more than one occasion he has threatened the life of the President. Of course Rep Stockman can give his ticket to whomever he wants...but that doesn't guarrantee they'll make it through SS checkpoint.

[narnian60]

19. Noooooo, this CANNOT be true.

Patriot?? Oh, yeah, like in a previous article where he was called a humanitarian..

[W T F]

136. "Patriot" is a term used by the GOP to describe a Draft Dodging Coward and pedophile who........

Literally shit in his pants when his country called him to serve and adopted a 14 year-old girl then married her when she came of age. Ahh the good old republican "Family Values"

[MFM008]

21. investigated by the FBI

for possible threats against The President? Then they let him in the SOTU? I mean CHANCES are good they WONT let him in with a bazooka but who knows. OutRAGE. I cant get to the SOTU and they let this psycho in.

[Paladin]

24. Why? Because Steve Stockman Is A Moron, That's Why.

I just hope Nugent is given another opportunity to degrade the gun militancy movement. God knows he's done a spectacular job of that, so far.....

[Hard Assets]

25. Secret Service should revoke Nugent's ticket and throw him out.

And told to stay the fuck out. Then take all of his guns away and ordered a 72 hour hold.

[blm]

26. Draft-dodging, serial child rapist = GOPs ideal of a 'patriot' citizen.

.

[appleannie1]

27. Since when is wearing shitty pants to avoid the draft patriotic?

[Bok_Tukalo]

28. Because he was invited?

That would be my guess.

[Dawson Leery]

30. He should not be allowed inside.

[onenote]

37. Because?

He made dumbass empty comments about the President. To the extent the Secret Service felt they merited a visit, he got a visit and the Secret Service concluded he had not made an actionable threat and wasn't a danger to the President. Plus, he can be a guest of a member of Congress, but that doesn't exempt him from having to go through a security checkpoint. If the Secret Service is concerned that he poses a threat anyway, they will make the call and he will be disinvited. As for his behavior? We will have to wait and see how much of an ass he makes of himself.

[robbob]

142. Meanwhile the guy with the "burning bush" comment got a jail sentance

...don't know if he ever served any time, but 37 months? Crazy. And TN gets an invite to the SOTU? Even crazier...

http://www.prisonplanet.com/news_alert_120602_illegalbush.html

[Blue_In_AK]

34. Good Lord.

I hope they thoroughly shake him down before they let him anywhere near the president.

[8 track mind]

36. oh this should be good......

That ignorant fuckwad will not be able to keep his mouth shut

[Flashmann]

38. will not be able to keep his mouth shut

I hope not....

I hope he views his invitation as a mandate to interrupt and spout off about his warped beliefs...

Even if he doesn't interrupt,it's a fair bet that some "journalist" will seek him out for his opinion as a "celebrity",during which he won't be able to resist offering irrefutable proof that he's a Neanderthal....

[darkangel218]

39. just hearing or seeing his name makes me nauseaus.

Especially when someone calls him "uncle Ted"

I can't believe anyone invited him to be so close to the President. TN is a dangereus individual imo.

[Initech]

44. I thought he was going to be dead or in jail.

[Johonny]

45. I think this is perfectly fine and properly illustrates the state of the union.

having looked up Steve Stockman on the Internet I can clearly say Ted Nugent is actually as qualified to be a member of congress as the man that invited him to the state of the union. That they will both be there seems to me a perfect example of the emptiness of the modern GOP. If Obama wants to point to an example of why Congress can not function look no further than the quality of its members and who they value the opinion's of... like Ted Nugent. To me it pretty much says it all about the state of the current union.

[defacto7]

99. hear, hear! n/t

[Recursion]

46. To piss us off

That's what trolls do.

[Shankapotomus]

49. Can someone who has been investigated for possible threats against

the government even be allowed to attend a State of the Union Address?

This is a disgusting Republican publicity stunt!

[onenote]

58. If they've been investigated and found not be a threat, sure.

[Shankapotomus]

59. Then at the very least

this is also an abominable display of insensitivity by Republicans against the President. Inviting, as their guest, someone, who holds so much animosity toward our President he had to be talked to by the secret service.

This is absolutely disgusting! The democratic representatives should be up in arms. The State of the Union is about our strength in our unity as a nation, not for inviting guests that symbolize divisiveness. Red flags should be flying off everywhere over this crap!

[hack89]

68. It is a deliberate provocation

which is why the President should simply ignore it.

[onenote]

70. Insensitive, attention seeking, childish Assholery? Sure

But all we do by setting our hair on fire about it is to make sure Stockman and Nugent achieve their objective.

[Shankapotomus]

74. I think hair was already set on fire when

the SS paid him a visit once before. It's no secret we don't approve of this big mouth. We might as well stick to our convictions.

[tavalon]

120. Only if they don't wear an offensive t-shirt

Ask Cindy Sheehan.

[Shankapotomus]

122. You have a good memory

I forgot about that.

[tavalon]

123. Actually, I have a lousy memory

but sometimes, something sticks. I never know when, why or how. Most times, I have a mind like a steel sieve...............

[alfredo]

50. Because having a draft dodging, drug addled, pederast, psychopath as your guest can

only improve your image with the voters.

[Orrex]

60. Wait... Bush Jr is attending, too?

Now they've gone too far!

[alfredo]

75. Ha!

[rivegauche]

81. Yep, that's the core of the base. *eyeroll*

[alfredo]

103. They are too lazy to fix it, so they want to trash it.

[Skittles]

51. because he represents the scared shitless gun nuts

[thc420]

52. Can you imagine...

...if a Democrat had brought Natalie Maines from The Dixie Chicks to Bush's SOTU? The librul media would be having a collective cow...

[Cleita]

56. They did bring Cindy Sheehan and President Bush had her arrested because

he didn't like her T-Shirt that had the number of dead from his wars printed on it. I think President Obama will be more courteous unless he proves to be disruptive.

[sadbear]

55. So the Secret Service can have plausible justification?

[ReRe]

57. If he is not drug out of the gallery....

...when he opens his mouth and heckles PO when PO mentions the drive for gun control, then we live in very very curious times. I will be pissed royally if they point the camera in his direction at any time during tomorrow night's SOTU.

[Bake]

108. Then you should prepare to be royally pissed off.

Because the camera WILL find Ted.

Bake

[ReRe]

109. Damn Damn Damn

...I've already figured that out, since his face is all over TV this evening.

[Bake]

110. So sorry!

Bake

[one_voice]

62. So he can sit there and shut up..

While the President Barack Obama addresses the country.

Douchebag Nug knows if he so much as opens his mouth he'll be tossed out on his ass. He's essentially neutered before he walks in. If he has the spine to open his mouth the only peeps that will think he did anything are the baggers, the rest of American will be laughing their asses off as he's tossed out on his.

[Hoyt]

64. I love it when Obama looks right at such right wing fools when addressing issues like guns.

[HiPointDem]

66. i thought nugent promised to leave the country if obama was elected -- now he wants to go to

the sotu?

what an asshole.

[AnnieK401]

67. This SO does not sound like a good idea.

Maybe he is a "chicken hawk" but why take a chance. The POTUS and VPOTUS will both be there, within shooting range of each other. And you're going to have a man who has made threats against the POTUS sitting in the audience. Am I the only one who does not see any good coming out of this?

[life long demo]

69. It seems that Mr. Stockman is giving the finger

to President Obama by inviting idiot Nugent to attend. I hope there will be SS guys in front of him, on both sides of him and behind him.

[Botany]

82. + 1

Look at the idiot who shouted out "you lie," or the hearings w/Graham or Issa
these people think that showing disrespect to the POTUS shows their character
and how they are fighting the "good fight" against an un-American President.
aka he is black and a Democrat ad if you listen to Fox or Rush that is reason enough
to act out and show disrespect.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

72. What would be ideal

I'd like to see Teddy boy cause an assinine commotion BEFORE entering the chamber that is captured vividly on film to the extent he's escorted out. Let him run crying to Insanity or O'Lielly and then let's see if FAUX airs the film that validates the expulsion.

[Paladin]

76. Joe Biden Should Sit On One Side Of Nugent, And Gabby Giffords On The Other. (nt)

[onenote]

94. I'm more than certain that the Vice President will be sitting behind the President per custom

and loony-tunes nugent will be sitting somewhere up in the gallery. My only hope is that his seat isn't in the front row of any of the gallery sections, making him all but impossible to see.

[tammywammy]

77. I don't understand why he'd even want to go

He detests Obama. All he'll do is work himself up in a frothy rage.

[skydive forever]

88. He's going to

work himself up into a Santorum? Oh, not that kind of frothy. Just sayin, he is kind of an a**hole.

[tammywammy]

89. bwahahaha

I gave you a heart for that reply.

[jmowreader]

78. This could be entertaining...

Nugent would have to know the hall is full of Secret Service agents, and they're completely devoid of a sense of humor.

He also knows that if he tries anything, the Secret Service will immediately have his full-auto stamp revoked.

[rivegauche]

79. GGRRRRR This makes me LIVID.

Ted Nugent is NOT A PATRIOT -- he is a fucking nutjob, a right-wing LUNATIC who faked a mental illness by shitting in his pants and not changing them for a week to get out of going to Viet Nam. WHEN ARE THESE STUPID REPUKES GOING TO WAKE THE HELL UP.

[still_one]

80. Because this alcoholic, racist, drug addict is representative of the Republican Party today

[Ian Iam]

83. You are FUCKING WELL HAVING ME ON!

Right? This has to be a joke!

[Blue Idaho]

85. I think this says more about Congressman Stockman than Crazy Old Ted.

Everyone knows Ted is a psychotic diaper shitting weirdo from way back. But as my grandma used to say "You are know by the company you keep."

Stockman must be an asshole of the first degree.

[Lint Head]

87. I give up. This takes the fucking cake!

Nugent is a cowardly traitor and I'll say that to his shit eating pants crapping face. The Secret Service should absolutely not allow this.
This does not send a good message. It does not politically tell people that President Obama includes everybody. It actually tells me just the opposite.

[Island Deac]

91. Is there no way to get this clown arrested for sedition?

[Catherine Vincent]

92. Well he was offered a ticket and he accepted

The republican representative is the one that should be questioned, imo.

[defacto7]

93. It's another form of intimidation...

NRA style. They thrive on intimidation. It's in their character or the lack of it.

[FailureToCommunicate]

97. Just when you think Republicans can't sink ANY lower, they dig deeper.

They hate this President. Maybe more voters will wake up to this crap they throw.

As for Ted Nugent, the Secret Service should whisk him away to the woodshed for a chat.

[Smilo]

98. I hope this teabagger Stockman and his washed up, disgusting

excuse for a human being guest shut the fuck up and behave during the Address.

While we probably can't stop these hateful couple from attending, I hope that both Stockman and Nugent are given a very hard time by the Secret Service and FBI.

[denverbill]

100. When his country called, Ted Nugent shat his pants. Hero to chickenhawks everywhere!

[Moosepoop]

101. Waiting to see if he actually shows up.

He might get "sick" or something instead. Wouldn't surprise me if he chickens out.

[Buzz Clik]

102. He's going to announce he's gay and now fully supports Obamacare. And total gun bans.

It's a big deal.

[SeattleVet]

104. One last big public event before he fulfills his promise?

On April 12th, 2012 he promised us: ”If Barack Obama becomes the president in November, again, I will be either be dead or in jail by this time next year.”

He's got about 2 months. Maybe he's just checking to be sure that Obama is actually the President, so he can begin to either start to arrange for his moving or make his final preparations?

[Major Nikon]

105. Maybe he'll do something funny like purposely defecate in his pants for a few days before coming

Like a true patriot.

[defacto7]

106. Stick Stockman and Nugent in a sound proof room

and let them watch it on a monitor. That would take care of that. You listening FBI?

There's no place for intimidation, period.

[Thinkingabout]

107. I want to think positive, TN first SOTU will be given by a great speaker, maybe something good

Will happen like TN hearing intelligence he does not hear from the RW and discover how to conduct himself in public.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

112. Someone should walk up to him and hand him a fake draft notice

and then watch the reaction in his pants.

[donheld]

114. Obama should choose this opportunity to start Indefinite detention.

Nugent needs to GO.

[ananda]

115. Stockholm Syndrome

..

[just1voice]

116. That's the way repugs roll, with thugs and liars and everybody else in corrupt politics.

We're all told we're supposed to work with them, LOL.

[MrMickeysMom]

121. He's excited to have a "patriot", eh?

A Patriot?

I'm glad I have another meeting to attend to. I'll be missing that CSPAN camera live.

[tjwash]

126. woohoo ted....packing 'em in!

He is almost at the point of paying people to come and see his sorry ass

[2pooped2pop]

127. It's probably because the republicans were asked to cut down on the

extreme need for two port a potties per person. They know the Nuge will be glad to leave his nuggets in his pants and won't have need for the port o pot at all.

[ThomThom]

128. Will he be allowed in?

I hope not even if he goes crying to fucked news afterward.

[marble falls]

129. So went does the Snooge go to jail or die trying to fight the revolution he said was so imminent?

[tabasco]

130. Texas is a real shithole to elect scum like Stockman.

[broadcaster75201]

131. PLEASE let him attend.

He is the poster child for everything horrible about Conservatism and the NRA. The Teabag nutballs have done more to destroy Conservatism than in any Liberal's wet dream about doing so. I'd pay real money if he shouts out something to interrupt Obama. I hope he is utterly batshit crazy.

It's like war and executions ... televise them and people will realize how horrifying they are and they will end. Put Nugent front and center with a scrolling caption on the bottom of the screen "shit himself to avoid serving his Country".

[SunSeeker]

132. What possible reason would he be put there by Stockman other than to disrupt the SOTU?

This is insane.

[MoonRiver]

134. I've been wondering about this myself.

Hope the SS frisks him real good before letting him anywhere near the POTUS!

[onenote]

140. He's not going to be close to the President

The only attendees allowed onto the House floor for the SOTU are the members of the House and Senate, cabinet members, members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Supreme Court. That's it. Nugent will be stuck up in the gallery with all other "guests" of members of Congress who attend. While I don't know how seating is allocated for the gallery, my guess would be that Nugent more likely than not won't be in the front row. My fervent wish would be that whoever has the seats in front of Nugent invites Jonathan Ogden (all of fame Baltimore Ravens Tackle, 6 foot 9, 345 pounds and Shaquille O'Neal (7 foot 1, 310 pounds) to sit in those seats.

And everyone entering the gallery will be thoroughly searched and screened.

[pipi_k]

135. To show

how stupid he is?

I mean, didn't he say that if Obama got re-elected, he (Nugent) would either be in prison or dead?

Well, he's neither. Yet.

But even still, I can't see where this is going to make him look very good in the eyes of anyone who thinks he's some kind of hero or something.

And who knows....if he does attend, maybe (like someone above said) the Secret Service hopes he'll do something arrest-worthy.

[Cleita]

137. Although I was of the opinion that Ted Nugent, as odious as he is,

still has a right as an American citizen and Obama is his President whether he likes it or not, I changed my mind in the light of precedent. Cindy Sheehan was arrested at a SOTUS because then pResident Bush didn't like her T-Shirt. Grace Slick and Tricia Nixon, former President Richard Nixon's daughter, are alumnae of Finch College. Grace was invited to a tea party for the alumnae at the White House in 1969. She invited the political activist Abbie Hoffman to be her escort and planned to spike President Richard Nixon's tea with 600 micrograms of LSD. The plan was thwarted when they were prevented from entering after being recognized by White House security personnel, as Slick had been placed on an FBI blacklist. So if Grace and Abbie had threatened the President with LSD, it seems that since Nugent has threatened the President and could be armed with more than LSD, I think he shouldn't be allowed into the chambers.

[go west young man]

138. The irony is he is literally giving "us" ammunition.

With these teabagging faux patriots we don't have to do much as they are so nutty they make the case for us!

[Martin Eden]

139. Ted Nugent is not a "conservative gun rights supporter."

He's a draft-dodging pants-pooping whacked-out teabagging rightwing lying sack of shit demagogue.
Yeah, I left out a few, but I don't want to get blisters on my fingers

[mountain grammy]

141. Mr. Stokman is a fool, and Nugent is a sick joke. No stomach for either!

[libodem]

145. He is a domestic terrorist

[krispos42]

146. Because the chiseled the shit out of his pants...

...and washed him off with a fire hose, I guess.

[athenasatanjesus]

147. Because Democrats must always be non partisan no matter what.

Republicans get to be as partisan as they wish,and the media will call it even.

[bonniebgood]

148. This guy is the definition of mental illness and should not be allowed to own a gun

there had to be a "mental illness" reason issued from the military to reason why they did not accept him with
the poop in his pants.

Everyone says including ted, that he escaped military because he had poop in his pants.
There is a legal reason why he was turned down. and that reason should not allow him to own
a gun.