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cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:31 PM Feb 2013

LA Catholic archdiocese considering “massive” fundraiser to pay for child-rape settlements

Who doesn’t want to pony up big dollars to bail out the financially-troubled archdiocese after their reported $660 million settlement with 562 victims of sexual abuse by Catholic priests? It’s for a good cause, right?

Sure, the archdiocese appears to have ignored reports of potential pedophile priests. And the Catholic church overall still hasn’t fessed up to its crimes. And sure, some Catholic leaders blames the kids. And they some cardinals attack the victims outright. But who could possibly feel like they’re funding the sins of the church when they hand over money to an organization that has consistently lied and obstructed authorities from finding out the truth about the systematic rape of children?

I mean sure, there’s that little issue of the Catholic church even being involved in modern-day slavery and holding firm on bigotry, but besides that, they’re really a great bunch of people once you get to know them, and hand them all your money so that they don’t have to feel the pain of their sins.

Just because the LA archdiocese is still holding back on providing the full details of their decades of child rape doesn’t mean that they haven’t learned any lessons from their severe failings. I mean, who hasn’t helped to cover up rape, especially the rape of children?
Catholic priest in handcuffs pedophilia sex abuse child

Remind me again why anyone gives the Catholic church money these days for anything, let alone to help the church minimize the damage from its horrific sins on this matter?

http://americablog.com/2013/02/los-angeles-catholic-archidiocese-fundraiser-child-abuse.html



This story goes well beyond just the religious viewpoint. This is criminal behavior, and they now want to get others to pay for it.
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LA Catholic archdiocese considering “massive” fundraiser to pay for child-rape settlements (Original Post) cleanhippie Feb 2013 OP
Will they hold a bake sale? Moonwalk Feb 2013 #1
I was hoping lap dances dlwickham Feb 2013 #2
Thats a side gig the nuns are running. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #4
... RKP5637 Feb 2013 #5
Nope! It's back to the Middle Ages and selling Graces! Walk away Feb 2013 #27
You're Right! Go for the Classics... Moonwalk Feb 2013 #28
If they were a bank they could get a Get Out of Jail Free card and a bailout for their crimes. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #3
Disgusting. LAGC Feb 2013 #6
It could, but the people that support it keep it afloat. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #8
Mhy thoughts too and we all get to support it because they pay no taxes libtodeath Feb 2013 #12
They could have a kissing booth and the upper echelons could give one a RKP5637 Feb 2013 #7
OK, but I still like the "nuns on the bus" smacking Paul Ryan around. Squinch Feb 2013 #9
I did love the nuns on the bus liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #11
Very true. And THAT made me like them all the more. Squinch Feb 2013 #13
could we dunk them or shove a pie in their face or how about shoot an apple off their head? liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #10
If Anyone Gives Them Money for This They're STUPID dballance Feb 2013 #14
The same might be said about those that give them money on Sunday's too. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #17
Agreed 100%. And could be said of many, if not most, tithing to religious organizations. /nt dballance Feb 2013 #18
For a long time I stopped giving, period. AngryOldDem Feb 2013 #19
The Sad Thing Is They'll Probably Raise That Money on the Backs of... dballance Feb 2013 #20
Can't the Vatican help them out here? WinkyDink Feb 2013 #15
Call it Priestapalooza. TeamPooka Feb 2013 #16
Anybody want to buy a cathedral? ... cheap. Only $660 million... DreamGypsy Feb 2013 #21
The Diocese of Orange, which comes under the Archdiocese of LA, bought a cathedral for $58m in 2011 muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #23
Fuck them. Let them sell some of the eleventy bizillion dollars in real estate they own. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #22
Who would give to that? BainsBane Feb 2013 #24
The Catholic Church is one of the .... Wounded Bear Feb 2013 #25
The Catholic church is filthy rich, let them sell a few of the masterpieces in the Vatican. peacebird Feb 2013 #26
"The third, fourth and possibly fifth collect in today's mass will be in support of mulsh Feb 2013 #29

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
27. Nope! It's back to the Middle Ages and selling Graces!
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 09:16 AM
Feb 2013

Buying Graces is coming back! This way the child raping church can pay it's way out of it's earthly problems and your average catholic can pay off their sins pre-death and without that pesky penance. Skip purgatory and go straight to heaven!

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
8. It could, but the people that support it keep it afloat.
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 03:06 PM
Feb 2013

Seems like at some point, some of the blame needs to get shifted to them.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
11. I did love the nuns on the bus
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 03:15 PM
Feb 2013

Some American nuns came under fire from the Vatican for being too Americanized and not being strict enough.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
14. If Anyone Gives Them Money for This They're STUPID
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 03:32 PM
Feb 2013

It's not like this is some one-off little parish that's not affiliated with any national or international organization. Not that I'd suggest giving any one-off organization or church donations to settle their sex-crimes civil suits either.

No, this is an Archdiocese of THE Catholic Church which aided and abetted the sex abuse crimes. If they have a lack of funds there are hundreds of thousands of their brethren in other Archdiocese they should turn to. Oh, and there is this whole big place in Rome called Vatican City. I'm pretty sure it's sitting on billions of its loyal follower's donated money, donated assets and billions in property and classical art.

The Archdiocese should seek funding from the Church to pay for what has been rather convincingly proven to be a conspiracy, worthy of RICO charges, by the Church to cover up the sex abuse and confound law enforcement and the courts in their efforts to get to the bottom of it.

I whole-heartedly agree with the statement: "Remind me again why anyone gives the Catholic church money these days for anything, let alone to help the church minimize the damage from its horrific sins on this matter?"

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
19. For a long time I stopped giving, period.
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 04:31 PM
Feb 2013

The archdiocese gets a cut of the collection plate, and people have no say in how the money is spent. So parishioners have been subsizing lawsuits and payouts and God knows what else for years. Meanwhile, individual parishes' finances are a nightmare...I've seen pleas in bulletins about the astronomical light bill...please help.

Now...for them to solicit funds to help pay for a situation they aided and abetted for decades...now that takes some balls. But rest assured, they'll raise some money from those still clueless folks who still blame the victims, see a huge conspiracy against the Church, and think all priests are Christ's little brothers.

One of the many reasons why I walked away from this "faith" years ago.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
20. The Sad Thing Is They'll Probably Raise That Money on the Backs of...
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 04:47 PM
Feb 2013

the poor and the elderly. I know what I'm about to say is a broad brush and is not representative of all the poor and elderly. That said.

As my title says they'll probably raise a lot of the donations on the backs of the poor and elderly. These groups, which tend to overlap somewhat, are often uninformed or misinformed because of lack of access to objective reporting. So they, in my opinion, have a higher likelihood of being duped by the archdiocese. I'm betting the nice older grandmothers who've been with the church forever will be giving to the archdiocese because the priests are really "such good men of God" and it's unlikely anything would stop them.

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
21. Anybody want to buy a cathedral? ... cheap. Only $660 million...
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:44 AM
Feb 2013


Includes the usual amenities of a religious structure: a gift shop, cafeteria, and parking ($16.00/hour); a dolphin show in the Gateway Wall and Pool at 10am, 1pm, and 4pm Tuesday-Sunday; a miniature train ride through the Chapel of the Blessed Sacrament; and, best of all, a huge organ:



Serious inquiries should be sent to

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
22. Fuck them. Let them sell some of the eleventy bizillion dollars in real estate they own.
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:48 AM
Feb 2013

I know a man who was abused by a priest as a child. He's wound tighter than a stretched rubber band. I don't think there is enough money in the world to make him right again.

Wounded Bear

(58,685 posts)
25. The Catholic Church is one of the ....
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 09:05 AM
Feb 2013

biggest Trans-national Corporations going....

And they've been at it for centuries.....

Just sayin'.....

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
29. "The third, fourth and possibly fifth collect in today's mass will be in support of
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:00 PM
Feb 2013

the Archbishop's special fund."

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