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CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 11:28 AM Feb 2013

LA Police fire 46+ rounds at two newspaper carriers (in the back), saying they thought it was Donner

"The problem with the situation is it looked like the police had the goal of administering street justice and in so doing, didn't take the time to notice that these two older, small Latina women don't look like a large black man," Jonas said.



Dorner manhunt: Lawyer calls shootings of paper carriers 'unacceptable'
February 8, 2013 | 5:58 am

An attorney representing two women who were delivering newspapers when they were shot by police during a massive manhunt for an ex-LAPD officer called the incident "unacceptable," saying his clients looked nothing like the suspect.

Emma Hernandez, 71, was delivering the Los Angeles Times with her daughter, Margie Carranza, 47, in the 19500 block of Redbeam Avenue in Torrance on Thursday morning when Los Angeles police detectives apparently mistook their pickup for that of Christopher Dorner, the 33-year-old fugitive suspected of killing three people and injuring two others.
Hernandez, who attorney Glen T. Jonas said was shot twice in the back, was in stable condition late Thursday. Carranza received stitches on her finger.

"The problem with the situation is it looked like the police had the goal of administering street justice and in so doing, didn't take the time to notice that these two older, small Latina women don't look like a large black man," Jonas said.

Officials seeking Dorner describe him as black, 6 feet tall and weighing 270 pounds.
"We trust that the LAPD will step up and do the right thing and acknowledge that what they did was unacceptable, and we'll deal with it," Jonas said.

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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/dorner-manhunt-shootings-newspaper-carriers.html
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LA Police fire 46+ rounds at two newspaper carriers (in the back), saying they thought it was Donner (Original Post) CreekDog Feb 2013 OP
WTF again this am! lonestarnot Feb 2013 #1
Due Process is soooo 20th century...... Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #2
Frankly shooting an innocent 6 foot tall black man would be no more excusable. nt Bonobo Feb 2013 #3
The LAPD and other regional LEAs pull that type of shit routinely here with nary coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #9
The payout they deserve will ensure they never have to deliver another fucking newspaper again. nt msanthrope Feb 2013 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Brickbat Feb 2013 #5
I'm just old fashioned, but when police go into 'shoot to kill on sight' I expect them to HereSince1628 Feb 2013 #6
Police agencies must be included in the gun control agenda! Someone disarm them please! Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #7
The more you read about these incidents, the more you wonder Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #8
If you were all tweaked out and amped up on the speed and meth you coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #10
46+ rounds? Holy gun nuts Batman! ...and they missed the target??? n/t L0oniX Feb 2013 #11
That's what I said, try some marksmanship classes... winstars Feb 2013 #12
No they hit both targets and put one into ICU CreekDog Feb 2013 #15
You could try reading your own op too... L0oniX Feb 2013 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Feb 2013 #17
How about discussing the incompetent LEO's who may have hit other innocent people? n/t L0oniX Feb 2013 #18
Would that be the Donner Party v 2.0? - :) - n/t coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #19
... L0oniX Feb 2013 #22
No, they HIT their targets. The elderly woman took 2 rounds in the back and is in ICU. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #29
Responsible gun owners trained in the operation of their firearms. Goooo Guns! Exultant Democracy Feb 2013 #13
There are three major gangs in LA: markbark Feb 2013 #14
How dare you besmirch the reps of the Boys in Blue? Everyone who's anyone knows that coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #20
Kinda like confusing 2 chipmunks for a charging rhino. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #21
fuck tha police frylock Feb 2013 #23
K&R woo me with science Feb 2013 #24
This criminal shooting by the LAPD is only confirming what Dorner has been saying about them Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #25
These types of acts give much credibility to Donner's claims. Dawson Leery Feb 2013 #26
They do not want to capture him alive. Something is up with this. Lint Head Feb 2013 #27
Hello. The father of the arrestee testified at the BOR hearing that coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #31
The ENTIRE country of Germany's police forces used 84 bullets Bennyboy Feb 2013 #28
Damn, were do I begin? HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #30
They were lucky rightsideout Feb 2013 #32
 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
9. The LAPD and other regional LEAs pull that type of shit routinely here with nary
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:22 PM
Feb 2013

a word from the various media whores.

Response to CreekDog (Original post)

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
6. I'm just old fashioned, but when police go into 'shoot to kill on sight' I expect them to
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 11:43 AM
Feb 2013

put a curfew in place so that the innocent don't wander into a death trap.

I suppose in this day and age, fear eliminates the possibility of such consideration being afforded to the public.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
8. The more you read about these incidents, the more you wonder
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:19 PM
Feb 2013

if Dorner didn't have a pretty strong point in his manifesto...

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
10. If you were all tweaked out and amped up on the speed and meth you
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:23 PM
Feb 2013

had confiscated from other street gangs, you too might confuse two Latinas for one large black man.

in case it's needed.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
15. No they hit both targets and put one into ICU
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:41 PM
Feb 2013

You couldnt have read the article or even the OP's title withiut reading that the hit the women.

If you want to make a useful comment...

Response to L0oniX (Reply #16)

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
29. No, they HIT their targets. The elderly woman took 2 rounds in the back and is in ICU.
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:08 PM
Feb 2013

The other woman took a bullet in the hand.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
20. How dare you besmirch the reps of the Boys in Blue? Everyone who's anyone knows that
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:55 PM
Feb 2013

they're simply the enforcers for the real estate developers Philip Anschutz and Eli Broad.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
31. Hello. The father of the arrestee testified at the BOR hearing that
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:15 PM
Feb 2013

his son had told him that Evans (Dorner's supervising officer) had kicked the son (the arrestee) in the face when making the arrest. And they still determined in their secret star chamber proceeding that Dorner had lied??? Give me a fucking break. The Superior Court that heard Dorner's appeal said it could not determine whether Evans had kicked the arrestee in the head or not.

Even the media whores last night on TV were saying that Dorner might have a legitimate grievance, after they had reviewed the legal filings. That's a switch from their oh-so-usual fellating of all things LAPD-related.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
30. Damn, were do I begin?
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:10 PM
Feb 2013

Those cops should be fired, pronto. First, wouldn't a simple tag check have revealed it wasn't the person they were looking for? Second, could they not stop the vehicle before shooting? Couldn't they call for backup? Do two latinas really look like one large black man? Those cops sound like trigger-happy morons.

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