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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:35 AM Feb 2013

10 States Where People Are Living On The Edge Of Financial Ruin

http://www.businessinsider.com/10-most-financially-unstable-states-2013-2?op=1



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A sobering new report by the Corporation for Enterprise Development (CFED) shows nearly half of U.S. households (132.1 million
people) wouldn't last three months if they ran into bumps in the road like unemployment, natural disasters, or a medical emergency.

In fact, more than 30 percent don't have a savings account at all, and another 8 percent don't even bank, period.


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10. Louisiana

Louisiana arguably has no shortage of consumers who are aware of the damage that unexpected disasters like hurricanes can cause. Yet the state ranks No. 10 for residents' ability to reach financial stability.

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9. Arizona

Despite the fact that Arizona has one of the higher savings account usage rates on this list, the state still has more than 45 percent of residents living in liquid asset poverty.

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8. New Mexico

In New Mexico, more than two-thirds of households have a savings account, but about half are still considered liquid asset poor.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/10-most-financially-unstable-states-2013-2?op=1#ixzz2K1WmrZww
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10 States Where People Are Living On The Edge Of Financial Ruin (Original Post) xchrom Feb 2013 OP
How many of these are red states? Rhiannon12866 Feb 2013 #1
How much of this is pure bullshit? Art_from_Ark Feb 2013 #2
As most of the entries on the list mention 23k cyglet Feb 2013 #3
Here is the quote for Arkansas: Art_from_Ark Feb 2013 #4
2012-2013 Tuition $7,554 in-state Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #5
They have certainly increased the tuition since when I checked last year Art_from_Ark Feb 2013 #7
! didn't mean to offend, was only thinking that many have notorious Republican governors Rhiannon12866 Feb 2013 #12
Rich people can't understand why poor people don't have liquid assets. Evasporque Feb 2013 #6
They make it sound like it's the people's fault for not saving Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #8
I think in some cases - it is hfojvt Feb 2013 #10
Oh Yay! We "win". K&R Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #9
Yup, we're number one! kiva Feb 2013 #11
We made it close. We might catch you next year. dawg Feb 2013 #13
That's the problem with averages, it's too easy to gloss over the truth. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #14
Georgia, my state, is No. 2. RebelOne Feb 2013 #15

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
2. How much of this is pure bullshit?
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:01 AM
Feb 2013

For example, I don't know where they get this $23,000 figure for getting a degree in Arkansas, but the University of Arkansas is still one of the cheapest 4-year universities in the entire USA for in-state students. And the cost of living in Arkansas is much cheaper than it is in just about any other state.

cyglet

(529 posts)
3. As most of the entries on the list mention 23k
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:23 AM
Feb 2013

in student loan debt, that is probably a national average, not what any individual in any state has.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
4. Here is the quote for Arkansas:
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:43 AM
Feb 2013

"And though one-in-five residents have (sic) a four-year degree, their efforts cost them $23,000 on average."

They seem to be referring specifically to Arkansas. And if they are, that is bullshit, because it does not include grants and scholarships, which at the state universities at least, can be very generous.

And when I was a grad student at the University of Arkansas, I didn't pay *anything* for tuition, since it was completely covered by my teaching assistantship. Things might have changed since then, but looking at the university's web site, I found that tuition there is still more reasonably priced than at other state universities.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
5. 2012-2013 Tuition $7,554 in-state
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 09:35 AM
Feb 2013

X4 =$30,216...that's the tuition. Books, housing, etc are additional. 23K does not seem all that far out of line...

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
7. They have certainly increased the tuition since when I checked last year
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 10:31 AM
Feb 2013

Even then, though, that means that people who have already graduated from the school did not pay that much, and since most students receive some sort of financial aid, I think that the out-of-pocket expenses for tuition/books would still be less than $23,000 for 4 years.

Saying that, I am still shocked that the in-state tuition has increased by a factor of 10 since the time I was a student there

Evasporque

(2,133 posts)
6. Rich people can't understand why poor people don't have liquid assets.
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 10:14 AM
Feb 2013

BEVERLY HILLS CA -- Poll of wealthy homeowners in the richest parts of the country found that most do not know why the poor do not have liquid assets.



"I see people on the street and just assume that they have 20 maybe 30 thousand in their main checking account at all time."

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
8. They make it sound like it's the people's fault for not saving
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 10:35 AM
Feb 2013

So tired of hearing this!!

If only THEY paid more!

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
10. I think in some cases - it is
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:23 AM
Feb 2013

I have always been able to save, even when I only made $5,900 a year. I have spent most of my adult working life in the bottom quintile, often in the middle of the bottom quintile, and I have always been able to save. If I can do it, I believe that others can as well, especially many of the 85% making more money that I do. To have NO savings seems absurd to me. Save just $5 a week and you will have $260 at the end of the year.

I just WOULD not live without savings. It would freak me out to not have some cushion to fall back on. I would cut expenses for a time until I had built up such a cushion.

Maybe it helps that I am a barbarian. I've lived without hot water, a phone, and a car for a number of years, not even including the year I spent living in the woods with no running water, no central heat, no electricity, and no car (but at least I had a piano, which cost me a whole $75).

“Wealth consists not in having great possessions, but in having few wants.”
― Epictetus

kiva

(4,373 posts)
11. Yup, we're number one!
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:28 AM
Feb 2013

Almost a much of an honor as when we win all of those education awards, like most underfunded.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
13. We made it close. We might catch you next year.
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:29 PM
Feb 2013

I'm having trouble believing that the average salary here in Georgia is $47,500. That sounds high from where I'm sitting. Maybe the rich folks in Buckhead are skewing the results.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
14. That's the problem with averages, it's too easy to gloss over the truth.
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:35 PM
Feb 2013

The old, "Bill Gates walk into a room with 10,000 homeless people and suddenly everybody's a multimillionaire" illusion.

We not only don't have any jobs here, we don't even have an economy. At least the mob knew to spread it around and keep the civilians happy.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
15. Georgia, my state, is No. 2.
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:39 PM
Feb 2013

Yes, I can believe it.I went to the supermarkes today and have doubled prices since last week. Fortunately, I am a single person and only have myself to feed, but I do not know how cash-strapped familes can even afford to put food on the table.

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