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This is a stripper (Original Post) ellisonz Feb 2013 OP
I really wish they would have put some shorts and a t-shirt on that dude. nt Ed Suspicious Feb 2013 #1
I assure you it's even more uncomfortable in the flesh ellisonz Feb 2013 #2
Believe it or not, the owner of an Italian restaurant in my town had to do just that Rhiannon12866 Feb 2013 #14
He's not a stripper.... defacto7 Feb 2013 #3
This must be restricted! ellisonz Feb 2013 #4
He's a 'streaker' who stopped to catch his breath... Tikki Feb 2013 #29
They were usually clothed back in the days. Democracyinkind Feb 2013 #5
Correct if ancient Roman or Greek defacto7 Feb 2013 #7
And with a little bling ellisonz Feb 2013 #8
Ha! Better look twice before posting! Democracyinkind Feb 2013 #9
They knew greek art pretty well in the renaissance. defacto7 Feb 2013 #15
Michaelangelo was probably clothed, yes jberryhill Feb 2013 #18
I simply didn't read carefully enough. Democracyinkind Feb 2013 #19
No, the OP is stating that Beyonce is a fine object of art jberryhill Feb 2013 #21
I took the OP to mean that nudity and art aren't exlusive (to which I agree) Democracyinkind Feb 2013 #22
Check my edits above jberryhill Feb 2013 #23
Weren't the Olympic Games played in the nude? This included wrestling. Saucy! nt Ed Suspicious Feb 2013 #6
Remember John Ashcroft?? thelordofhell Feb 2013 #10
I had forgotten about that ellisonz Feb 2013 #12
sorry but a stripper is someone who takes off clothes for others' amusemement...this is a msongs Feb 2013 #11
No, it is a sculpture jberryhill Feb 2013 #20
or... defacto7 Feb 2013 #13
Thesis proposal: "The Little Ice Age as it relates to Shrinkage in Renaissance Art" Democracyinkind Feb 2013 #16
A beautiful object for display - exactly jberryhill Feb 2013 #17
Beyonce is a singer and a dancer. ellisonz Feb 2013 #24
I do enjoy it jberryhill Feb 2013 #26
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. ellisonz Feb 2013 #32
Here's two more strippers Recursion Feb 2013 #25
I had this in mind when I read the thread title caraher Feb 2013 #34
Hubba hubba soooooooooo good looking. This my friends is definitely art. southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #27
There is also one outside nykym Feb 2013 #28
You people disappoint me... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #30
And another, flaunting herself at the World's Fair! nolabear Feb 2013 #31
This is a striper Brother Buzz Feb 2013 #33
Giggles, tee hee Rex Feb 2013 #35
You know, there is a fig leaf for him to wear on certain occasions. Arkansas Granny Feb 2013 #36
Sorry ...no comparison madmom Feb 2013 #37
Clearly John Ashcroft did not know about this..... yellowcanine Feb 2013 #38
Interesting thing about that sculpture... TlalocW Feb 2013 #39

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
2. I assure you it's even more uncomfortable in the flesh
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:53 AM
Feb 2013

All of those people oogling him and shamelessly milling about!

Rhiannon12866

(205,468 posts)
14. Believe it or not, the owner of an Italian restaurant in my town had to do just that
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:41 AM
Feb 2013

There was a small statue of David at the restaurant entrance, and there were so many complaints that he had to put clothes on David.

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
5. They were usually clothed back in the days.
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:04 AM
Feb 2013

yeah, that kinda sucks for the argument.

Go back a couple of thousand years and this statue would stand there fully vlothed and colored.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
7. Correct if ancient Roman or Greek
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:14 AM
Feb 2013

This is Renaissance Michelangelo. The Di Medici liked their statues in the raw.

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
9. Ha! Better look twice before posting!
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:18 AM
Feb 2013

Thanks!

Were the medieval folks under the inpression that the greeks left them unclothed? Since greek and roman art was the basis of the renaissance that would be interesting to know.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
15. They knew greek art pretty well in the renaissance.
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:44 AM
Feb 2013

Renaissance art was inspired by Roman and Greek stuff, but the Di Medici were looking for the new and provocative in the early period. Then the church infiltrated the family and suddenly things got more religious. The entire Sistine Chapel was painted nude by Michelangelo but later the church thought it was disgusting to see the naughty bits and had most of the secret parts painted over as to not disturb the sensitive cardinals who were too busy with the castrati and the alter boys.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
18. Michaelangelo was probably clothed, yes
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:45 AM
Feb 2013

As the OP is not a depiction of an artist, I guess I miss the point.

Did he walk around naked?

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
19. I simply didn't read carefully enough.
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:50 AM
Feb 2013

It was the Romans and the Greeks that painted and clothed their statues.

Altough the renaissance tried to emulate the classics, they parted ways with the tradition of clothing the statues, for whatever reason.

My comment was written while still under the impression that this OP was discussing classical statues, not renaissance-era.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
21. No, the OP is stating that Beyonce is a fine object of art
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:01 AM
Feb 2013

The OP seems to be under the impression that the sculpture shown above is a talented artist.

Take this, for example:



The point of the OP is that it takes tremendous talent for a woman to stand in that pose.

But, yes, Beyonce can do that:



Or, better yet, consider this:



And... boom:

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
22. I took the OP to mean that nudity and art aren't exlusive (to which I agree)
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:05 AM
Feb 2013

But the argument, as I perceived it, was flawed:

1. Classical statues are usually naked

2. Classical statues are the very epitome of high brow art

Therefore, nakedness and art aren't mutually exclusive.

--

Anyway, someone else pointed out that it wasn't meant this way, and I got it.

msongs

(67,416 posts)
11. sorry but a stripper is someone who takes off clothes for others' amusemement...this is a
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:29 AM
Feb 2013

nude. nice try tho

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
20. No, it is a sculpture
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:56 AM
Feb 2013

Apparently, the OP believes that taking your clothes off requires the talent of Michelangelo.

I mean, sure enough, I just took off my pants and while it is hard for me to be objective, I belief I have created a much more realistic depiction of a penis and pubic hair than is on that statue. So, apparently, I have more talent than the hack who chipped away all that marble.

The OP is apparently trying to say that we fail to appreciate that Beyonce's body is a work of art. People have been making the mistake of calling her an artist of some kind. The OP has helpfully reminded us that we are to admire the form of her body and the effort that goes into crafting a depiction of a human body, starting with only a human body as the medium in which to work.

When you do a Google image search of, say, Beyonce and "camel toe", you are to understand that the resulting images (of which there are legion) are the result of the immense talent required to produce a lifelike depiction of the contours of a vulva and labia compressed by fabric out of what is, in its raw form, merely a lifeless natural substance of some kind.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
17. A beautiful object for display - exactly
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:44 AM
Feb 2013

You have posted a picture of a beautifully crafted piece of stone. It is a work of art. An object.

Why don't you post a picture of the artist?

Or do you not understand that you have not posted a picture of an artist?

Because the picture you have posted is of a brainless object with no talent whatsoever.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
24. Beyonce is a singer and a dancer.
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 02:25 PM
Feb 2013

The statue is an expression of the artists talent.

Enjoy the beauty of the human figure, my friend.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
26. I do enjoy it
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 02:26 PM
Feb 2013

What gives you the impression I don't?

Clearly, any woman who does not have her figure falls far short of her talent.

The statue, and Beyonce, are pleasant things to look at.

nykym

(3,063 posts)
28. There is also one outside
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 02:58 PM
Feb 2013

of the Albright Knox museum in Buffalo new York.
Which is annually festooned with a jock strap.

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
36. You know, there is a fig leaf for him to wear on certain occasions.
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:31 PM
Feb 2013


A plaster cast from the collections of the Victoria and Albert Museum -

This fig-leaf was hung on the David on the occasion of visits by royal ladies. It was last used in the time of Queen Mary (1867-1953). According to anecdotal information, on her first encounter with the cast of 'David', Queen Victoria was so shocked by his nudity that a firm suggestion was made that something has to be done. Consequently, the correctly proportioned fig leaf was created and stored in readiness for any visit the Queen might make, for which occasions it was hung on the figure from two strategically implanted hooks.

http://www.neatorama.com/2010/09/29/davids-removable-fig-leaf/

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
38. Clearly John Ashcroft did not know about this.....
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:56 PM
Feb 2013

He would have ordered up a set of boxers for the young man.

TlalocW

(15,384 posts)
39. Interesting thing about that sculpture...
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:00 PM
Feb 2013

This is a front view of his face.



And the sculpture is supposed to show David right before facing Goliath. Hence the worried look and one might also suggest, hence the shrinkage.

TlalocW

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