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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsABC is spending more time on a dead sniper than a live kidnapped child
This insane how they are worshipping this guy.
Guns, guns, guns.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)against a gun man,who can? That may be the push behind the coverage.
Iggo
(47,558 posts)Couldn't they have saved our hero?
cali
(114,904 posts)about the child hostage situation in Alabama for obvious reasons. They simply are not releasing much information to the media because they want to successfully rescue the child. Fortunately, the MSM seems to be fairly respectful of this. The perp has a television. Setting him off or pumping him up does not bode well for the child hostage.
Take a big step back.
Oh, and he wasn't simply some dead sniper. He was also a best selling author. Covering his murder which is about so much more than than just his death. It is a legitimate story and I have not seen ANYTHING from the MSM that could accurately be referred to as "worshipping".
Whovian
(2,866 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Let the networks go wall-to-wall with this sniper guy - we want that little boy out safely, no hype.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)dballance
(5,756 posts)No need to feed the kidnapper with anything on the TV that he might take as encouragement. Also, if I were the authorities I wouldn't be telling the media anything either. Because there would be a stampede as all of them tried to get in front of their cameras to be the first to break the latest news, the latest update and they would likely give away information the kidnapper doesn't need to know. Just like good 'ole Geraldo giving away the position and movements of our troops on live TV - dumbass.
Romulus Quirinus
(524 posts)obamanut2012
(26,082 posts)He wrote a book, has been on TV, etc. And, the irony of one of the best snipers who ever lived being murdered at a gun range, is a "made for news" moment.
Plus, the poor boy being held has been -- and continues to be -- all over the news.
liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)This was the first I heard of him.
He died at the hand of that which he lived glorifying.
cali
(114,904 posts)Just because YOU haven't heard of him, doesn't mean... anything at all. I certainly had and I hardly follow the military and I don't own a gun.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)I shot HIM!" Yeah, I'll BET he sold a pot load of his books to Americans.
http://www.nytimes.com/best-sellers-books/overview.html
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)And I don't memorize the NYT Best Sellers list from week to week.
He had 15 minutes and then died at the hand of the thing he glorified.
WinniSkipper
(363 posts)if he was killed in action? Should all soldiers die "at the hand of the thing he glorified"? Or did he get what was coming becasue he wrote a book?
liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)WinniSkipper
(363 posts)liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)WinniSkipper
(363 posts)are run by the NRA. And all local newspapers. We are doomed.
obamanut2012
(26,082 posts)And was a highly-regarded service member.
So, yes, it is leading national news. Regardless of how you have repeatedly stated several times in this thread that members of our Armed Forces glorify guns.
Many members of my family have served honorably, and one who is very close to me is a disabled combat veteran. Regardless of how I feel about war, I do NOT think military members are "glorifying guns," or death.
Just wow.
liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)Not really news!
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)WinniSkipper
(363 posts)I haven't read his book - so I was not aware of his inability to spell government.
Thanks for pointing out the correct spelling.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)WinniSkipper
(363 posts)what part of his book or whatever he has done makes him deserve what happened to him as you have claimed?
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)But you bore me so have a good day.
WinniSkipper
(363 posts)I usually bore people who can't answer a question
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)WinniSkipper
(363 posts)And I asked what's the difference? And the reason I ask is not because I am a gun nut - it is because statements like this make all Democrats look foolish.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)FarPoint
(12,409 posts)You sound highly irritable at the moment. Reading way too much into comments here. Do you need a hug?
WinniSkipper
(363 posts)I mean that.
As I stated somewhere else - statements like this make all Dems look foolish.
I think most people on this board - pro RKBA and pro-control alike - basically agree on large issues. Some sort of magazine restriction, background checks on all sales. Those are two issues that have a decent chance of becoming law. Or at least are two points of common ground that the sides can agree on and start a meaningful discussion.
As for the weapons part of the discussion - it basically comes down to - do you (the royal 'you') approve of a semi-automatic ban? The cosmetics part is a rat hole of distraction, wasted time and wasted effort. That's the component the two sides are far apart on, and will never agree on.
There will never be a ban on semi automatic rifles. It's just a reality.
And then there is the political considerations of this issue. Obama won by 6-ish percent. The pro-control people scream about all the nuts. They shouldn't be worried about the nuts - they should be worried about more than 3% of the people who voted Dem changing their vote because of the semi-auto issue. Because those people most likely agree with the magazine size, and the background checks. It is VERY conceivable that the semi-auto issue could turn this country Red for at least a generation.
obamanut2012
(26,082 posts)He was all over the place, and was on that "Stars & Stripes" show with celebrities this past summer. He was partnered with Dean Cain.
obamanut2012
(26,082 posts)Which had good ratings and was widely written about (including on here), and a best-selling book, including a huge media tour.
"He died at the hand of that which he lived glorifying."
Then that goes for every single member of the Armed Services, huh? Every. Single. One. I reject that.
liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)I ignore reality TV too.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And had a reality show...and was succesful. The fact you did not know who he was...
liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)Reality TV does not make one a star!
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Many people have written books and/or been on TV. Countess LuAnn, anyone?
Brother Buzz
(36,444 posts)I heard the story on the radio and didn't make any connection until the book title was mentioned.
obamanut2012
(26,082 posts)That was talked about all over the place, including here. He had a best-selling book, and was all over TV and other media. He was a highly-decorated service member, and was nice looking. He got a lot of press.
And, as others have stated, you don't report on a hostage situation, especially with a minor involved. The media are actually doing the right thing right now.
bowens43
(16,064 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)ended up killing the guy who has a 4 year old hostage? Not all sniping is murder.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)the hostage or hostages, in this case the child who you acknowledge is alive and that alone should show you why that is, for the sake of his life.
Upon what basis do you propose that more coverage serves the hostage?
obamanut2012
(26,082 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)I don't.
liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)It was the lead story and spent nearly 5 minutes getting commentary from a dozen talking heads and other insignificant idiots.
cali
(114,904 posts)situation worse?
Great.
liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)WinniSkipper
(363 posts)You should have applied
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jsr
(7,712 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Wall to wall coverage of the hostage situation may make the situation worse. They don't want anything to set this guy off.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
sasha031
(6,700 posts)tragedies like this not news worthy
East Tennessee man kills wife, 2 children, self
http://www.tennessean.com/viewart/20130202/NEWS21/130202012/East-Tennessee-man-kills-wife-2-children-self
ecstatic
(32,712 posts)Had no idea who this guy was, but it's odd that he thought it was a good idea to take veterans with PTSD to the shooting range. I hope some gun advocates get it now. Some people shouldn't have guns, even if the only way to achieve that is a total ban.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)and he probably has a tv.
farminator3000
(2,117 posts)http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/02/03/reid-supports-expanding-background-checks-unsure-about-assault-weapons-ban/
i agree about too much coverage on the guy. not sure if you meant more on the kid- there will be PLENTY when its (hopefully happily) over!
those ^^^ 2 are more at least as important as the sniper guy.
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)The last thing one wants to do is give these guys is a voice. Those that do such a thing do so to get a voice to whatever insane ideas they have.
There is a old policy that I am happy to see coming back. To set back and wait in these type of situations. That way they don't give the "bad guys" their bully pulpit. Not giving the attention he though he would get and add the skills of the negotiators, that could mean the difference in the rescue of a live child or funeral coverage.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)TV needs images. They have not cut power to the bunker due to the kid. Images are insta intel.
I have been following the far more extensive coverage in print. And you can bet the cops asked fr this.
pansypoo53219
(20,981 posts)like when that foreign correspondent was kidnapped. just wait for a resolution for the jazz hands.