Pastor refuses to leave tip, writes "I give god 10%, why do you get 18%?"

[TheMightyFavog]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/29/i-give-god-10-percent-tip-receipt-photo_n_2576595.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

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We've seen some ridiculous reasons not to leave a tip in our time (just scroll down for more egregious gratuities) but you could call this one the "holy grail" of outrageous receipts.

Redditor GateFlan posted the photo below showing how one Pastor dealt with an included tip of 18%, adding, "My mistake sir, I'm sure Jesus will pay for my rent and groceries."

The irony of it all is that we're pretty sure this would make any server lose faith in humanity.

[Dreamer Tatum]

1. Don't even need Photoshop to fake that. nt

[Dawson Leery]

2. 0% is what should be given to the skyfairies.

[tanyev]

3. God doesn't have an employer that pays him less than minimum wage.

[msongs]

4. why are people forced to give an 18% tip?

tipping should be left up to the customer.

and restaurants should pay their employees a decent wage

[TheMightyFavog]

6. I think some places automatically ad a gratuity for orders over a certain amount...

Usually it's like over $100 or something.

[LiberalFighter]

9. And there are some places that keep that gratuity for themselves

without giving it to the servers as the customers believe it is going.

[Recursion]

64. But those automatic gratuities don't always go to the waiters

You have to watch out for that.

[joeybee12]

17. Usually for large parties it's automatic...

This reverend is a POS

[Rex]

5. Is this another receipt hoax?

nt.

[Dash87]

7. Yep. Who signs their name "Pastor" on a credit card slip? lol

[Gormy Cuss]

8. One would hope so.

Note that the 18% wasn't included in the total. It was a calculation but not binding until the diner filled in the total and signed the slip.
Pastor could have simply changed it to 10% and left it at that.

[Paladin]

10. There Used To Be An On-Line Site, Devoted To Revenge Tactics.....

...used by restaurant staff against creeps like this customer. It's not a site you want to visit with a full stomach, given how some waitstaff people choose to get even.....

[KamaAina]

11. "Because I give better service."

[RedCappedBandit]

12. Why does the creator of the universe need money?

[Bucky]

15. Back up plan.

This one isn't working out too good.

[Bucky]

13. Please note, the customer did NOT "refuse to give a tip".

A forced tip of 18% was added to his bill. He balked at having almost 1/5th of the price of the meal added onto the bill and then being asked for yet more. That comes off as being pretty arrogant way to treat one's customers. Judging by his note, our pastor friend is a guy who understands arrogance.

[RudynJack]

20. yes he did.

He scratched out the 18% and left zero. The total paid equalled the pre-tip amount.

[Bucky]

21. Oh. Then I fucked up.

I didn't know you could do that.

Still, I think my point about arrogance on the part of the restaurant managers is valid. They're asking for a bigger than average tip for the waitstaff because the restaurant pays less than minimum wage to their workers.

What's more, many of those upscale restaurants take out a portion of the tips left on the bills for the waiters, and keep it for themselves. Under Bush, the IRS started auditing waiters in the '00s so they could tax the tips. That's why, if I can, I always tip in cash and not off my credit card. Of course, with most places I go, 15% would be an insult, so I tip on the table rather than on the bill.

[RudynJack]

25. Two points:

Yes, it's arrogance on the restaurant's part if this wasn't a very large party (in which case it's standard). This pastor could've been part of a party of twenty with individual checks. Most restaurants make very clear on the menu when a gratuity is automatically included.

And I'd love to blame Bush, but I had to pay taxes on a percentage of my sales when I worked in the service industry in the early 80s.
This is not a new thing - it's been around a long time.

[SailorMike]

45. I almost made the same mistake as you.

I went back up to the pic twice to make sure I understood the totality of what was going on.

[Beaverhausen]

46. Parties of 6 or more get an automatic tip added

The article states that the pastor was in a large party, hence the added tip. Most places I go use the same policy. This guy is an ass

[Ed Suspicious]

54. $34.00 for a large party? Coffee and pie? n/t

[Beaverhausen]

57. the entire bill was over $200. This was for his portion of it

this is according to the article.

[ismnotwasm]

14. God needs cash?

Wow

[AlmostFamous]

16. Ridiculous

The pastor was part of a group of 20. Restaurant policy (almost every restaurant has a similar policy for large groups) is party of 8 or more is automatic gratuity of 18%.

People need to keep in mind servers make $2.13/hr. Unless they have given poor service, tip them. If you don't want to tip at a restaurant, then get your food to-go.

[Bucky]

22. Except that when you tip using your credit card, the mgt keeps some of that tip.

[justabob]

29. That is not nearly as common as it used to be unless you are talking about tip share

Tip share...where the management takes a percentage of your sales out of your checkout to share between bussers bartenders and food runners.

There used to be a lot more problems with managers straight out skimming from waiters, but that is a lot more difficult since restaurants went to computers AND a lot of service staff started suing and winning. I does still happen, but it used to be rampant.

[Bucky]

31. I'm glad to hear that. Back when I waited, I'd always tip my busboys

This was eons ago. I doubt my elbows could handle it now.

[justabob]

33. yeah, elbows, knees, feet, back....

LOL. During my last few months as a waitress I had bad elbow problems, and also my thumbs/hands couldn't clamp a plate properly. I bet if I went back in and tried to stack my arm to run food, I would lose every plate.

[dballance]

35. Wouldn't That be Wage Theft?

Unless as you were hired there was an agreement about deducting some for people bussing tables and the like.

BTW, how do say bus-boys gender neutral now? Are we going to "bus-persons" instead? Or like at the utility company at which I used to work the women working on and replacing meters called themselves meter-men just like the males. I'm not sure if it had anything to do with union designations for the jobs but it might have.

[Robb]

40. Busser. nt

[hrmjustin]

18. Not very Christ-like of that pastor at all.

I hope that it gets back to his superiors, and they deal with him.

[mainer]

19. True or not true?

I reserve judgment until I hear confirmation.

If it is confirmed, the "good pastor" will be hearing from a lot of people.

[underpants]

23. Doesn't he pass around an empty plate asking for tips every Sunday????

I hate cheap bastards like this.

[lpbk2713]

24. Next time you're ready for a meal tell god.

See how long it is before you start eating.

[rustydog]

26. Harumph, harumph! Outrage, outrage. This couldn't be staged at all

Just like the panhandler driving a mercedes...

[Fumesucker]

36. It certainly could be staged

On the other hand if you talk to anyone who's waited tables much you'll hear very similar stories, Sunday after church is a miserable time for tips at a lot of restaurants.

[Callmecrazy]

27. God only get 10% because he doesn't have to pay taxes on it. nt

[Beartracks]

28. Does the waiter need to anoint Pastor's feet to earn a tip??

Yeah, I'm the sure the waiter will be so impressed as to head straight to a church himself.

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[Raine]

30. So quit being so cheap and give God 20%, duh problem solved. nt

[Autumn]

32. Hey preacher, try reading your bible

Luke 10-7 And remain in the same house, eating and drinking such things as they give, for the laborer is worthy of his wages. Do not go from house to house.

for the laborer is worthy of his wages , guess this asshole missed that part.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

34. I waited tables for $1.80 hr. when I was in school to pay my bills.

I dealt with more than a couple of rude and nasty people. Ones who thought leaving a tip was optional, no matter how well I served them or how much they ran my legs off. A few times I had people instead of money leave coupons, (I'm a waitress, I don't need $10 off my next car detail) and more than once someone left me a "Watchtower" pamphlet. My favorite, and most peculiar non-tip offering was a little stuffed blue bear that had "thank you" written on it's tummy. I had many a person try and split up the bill to avoid the mandatory gratuity, even though the establishment I worked at clearly stated it was a table of over 10, and not a ticket of over 10 entrees. So, I'm not going to say this isn't possible. Which of course doesn't mean it actually happened.

If I go out to eat, I never tip less than 20% if my server is at least trying what appears to be their best. I figure it into the cost of the meal before I decide I can afford to eat at any specific place. I refuse to ever be that 'jerk' who screws over a server working their ass.

[Socal31]

37. Seems fake, but where do they add 18% for a $34 bill?

Around here, a tip is usually automatically added for parties of 8 or more, or sometimes 6. An automatic tip on $34 isnt a tip, it is just a base price increase.

[FreeState]

41. They split check n/t

[Tyrs WolfDaemon]

42. In another post about this it says it was for a table of Twenty

http://www.democraticunderground.com/121866746

[zbdent]

38. God doesn't pee in your gravy ...

[dgibby]

39. One of the so-called VIPs

in my area took a very large party to a local establishment, then stiffed the waitress (my niece). The owner called the VIP the next day, asked him if there was a problem with the service, etc. No, everything was great, food, drinks, service, they had a really good time, blah, blah, blah. The owner then responded, Well then, either give the waitress the tip she deserves or don't bother to come back. We don't need your business. Needless to say, his staff loved him. In fact, he closed the night my niece got married. Said it wouldn't be cost effective to stay open 'cause everybody would be at the wedding, including him!

[kentauros]

43. So-o, what'd the "VIP" do?

That owner is another great businessman that knows how to treat his employees well! If only they were all like that...

[dgibby]

50. If I recall correctly,

he's no longer welcome there. I know my niece can't stand him. Wouldn't spit on him if he was on fire.

The owner is the son of friends. Really a nice guy. He treats his staff like he treats his family, and his business is a big success (no surprise there).

[sad-cafe]

44. what an ass

I would be ashamed to call that person a pastor

[RagAss]

47. Asshole !

teabag his salad !

[Warren DeMontague]

48. Because "God" doesn't refill your iced tea, jagoff.

I do.

[Phillip McCleod]

49. 'because god can't spit in your food assface'

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

65. Winner!

[Xipe Totec]

51. I always leave a 20% tip. 10% from me, 10% from God. nt

[BlueStreak]

52. Uhhhh, don't pastors get 100% of their income from tips?

I'll take that guy seriously when he stops passing the offering plate whenever he gives a sermon.

[RKP5637]

53. "Because I exist and must subsist!" n/t

[Beartracks]

55. Cheapo pastor. I used to get how-to-save-yourself "tip" cards in lieu of money...

... similar to what Jehova's Witnesses leave tucked into your screen door.

Peacocks flashing their chunky gold wristwatches, making a comedy show of eschewing the wine list*, hitting the buffet again and again with extra large plates to take back to their rooms.... Proud-n-loud evangelicals were the cheapest people I ever served.


* All the more "comic" when we had to clean the empties out of the stairwells early each morning.

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[backscatter712]

56. From what I've heard from friends that have waited tables...

Sunday lunch is the absolute worst time of the week if you're working in a restaurant.

The fundies coming out of church on Sunday morning, and pile into restaurants in large groups. They're horrible tippers, they're rude and nasty, and they take out their aggression on the wait-staff for daring to work on the Sabbath.

They are the reason why most restaurants have the policy of charging a mandatory gratuity of 18% for groups of eight or more. Waiters and waitresses have been stiffed too many times.

That's the religion of love and peace for you.

[Zoeisright]

58. Fuck you, Pastor Bell.

I'm sure you learned your miserly, rude, and cheap attitude in church and that your congregants are all as mean, cheap, and stupid as you are.

[Festivito]

59. I want him to give him a hell-fire and brimstone sermon.

If you don't want to pay the tip, don't eat there.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

60. Because in church, you get one small sip of wine or juice. In here, you get unlimited refills. nt

[reformist2]

61. Never mind him: The bigger problem is that many see a tip as a tax, and not payment for services.

If more people realized how little waiters/waitresses made, they might not make such stupid remarks - or worse, hold their tip hostage to their every whim.

[sendero]

62. You didn't give "god" ..

.... anything. Rather you funded a huge hierarchy designed for command and control of a population. God had nothing to do with it.

[rucky]

63. And God thinks you're a dick.

He told me this.