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Fuck you, gun fucks. (Original Post) onehandle Jan 2013 OP
This one is going to end well .... LOL .... Trajan Jan 2013 #1
Please, tell me why any sane person shouldn't feel bitter? baldguy Jan 2013 #7
Just remarking on the general state of DU ... Trajan Jan 2013 #9
Because it's not healthy tama Jan 2013 #29
If by "gun fucks" you mean people like that heckler... EDIT Deep13 Jan 2013 #2
+1 AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #23
+1 PrezHillary2016 Jan 2013 #27
Did this video catch the guys heckling on camera? I hope the video gets posted soon. freshwest Jan 2013 #3
Unfortunately no. It just has them shouting off camera. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #22
That is disrespectful to all of our du gun fucks. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #4
Excellent! CranialRectaLoopback Jan 2013 #14
maybe the gun fuck can go fuck their guns. fuck gun fucks. seriously. Nanjing to Seoul Jan 2013 #37
I wish they would just all shoot each other Demobrat Jan 2013 #5
what level of gun fuck needs fucked? snooper2 Jan 2013 #6
Lawrence made a solid point about the hecklers 0rganism Jan 2013 #8
K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2013 #10
Oh, come on now. They were just being "less than polite" Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #11
But our very own DU defenders of the indefensible will tell you PA Democrat Jan 2013 #12
I am sorry as I see it a little different Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #13
There's plenty of groups that get hit with name calling on DU Fumesucker Jan 2013 #15
I'm sorry. What kind of inhuman shitfoot do you have to be to even have answered that man? Chorophyll Jan 2013 #17
+ 1000 eom BlueCaliDem Jan 2013 #26
Thank you! gopiscrap Jan 2013 #34
Bullseye. Thank You. (nt) Paladin Jan 2013 #40
H. "Rap" Brown said in c1969 that college protestors were the "New -----s" Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #19
I know. Gun nuts being called gun fucks. The horror. The horror. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #25
Those poor oppressed guns. Who will speak for them? neverforget Jan 2013 #35
Those same people had the opportunity to address the committee. THAT is the appropriate PA Democrat Jan 2013 #20
I agree davidpdx Jan 2013 #30
you sure are fucking sorry farminator3000 Jan 2013 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #18
I'm no fan of the NRA, but I wouldn't call that "heckling". Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #16
They weren't answering his question, they were heckling. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #21
Don't be an apologist for degenerates. nt EastKYLiberal Jan 2013 #28
Pablo Picasso Rec because there is no Unrec slackmaster Jan 2013 #24
How emotional of you. flvegan Jan 2013 #31
HOAX! HOAX! HOAX! HOAX! HOAX! HOAX! HOAX! HOAX! HOAX! budkin Jan 2013 #32
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #33
and so if someone were to disagree,then Oldenuff Jan 2013 #38
Your response was fine...a little confusing but fine. jmg257 Jan 2013 #39
 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
7. Please, tell me why any sane person shouldn't feel bitter?
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 12:05 AM
Jan 2013

Americans use guns to murder one another at a rate far higher than any civilized nation deserves, and the fucking RW gun worshiping fascists think the only problem with it is there aren't enough guns around.

"Bitter" is the only proper, sane response to such lunacy.

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
29. Because it's not healthy
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 02:20 AM
Jan 2013

which is what "sane" means. Feeling bitter (etc. negative feelings) don't improve physical and mental health, make one feel better. That's why they are called "negative" feelings. This is not what you want to hear right now, and there's not much point trying to deny or suppress such feelings. Just reminding that actually no, they are not sane feelings in the actual meaning of the word.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
2. If by "gun fucks" you mean people like that heckler... EDIT
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 12:00 AM
Jan 2013

Last edited Wed Jan 30, 2013, 04:59 PM - Edit history (1)

...then yeah, fuck 'em.

postscript

I have to edit my comments.

I've seen the video and the speaker (sorry, I forgot his name) specifically asked if anyone in the room had any reason why people needed big magazines. He then said the lack of response meant no one could think of any. That's when someone said "shall not be infringed."

He was not heckled. Someone simply answered his question.

SunSeeker

(51,578 posts)
22. Unfortunately no. It just has them shouting off camera.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 01:19 AM
Jan 2013

If you come across a video that does show the hecklers' faces, please post it.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
6. what level of gun fuck needs fucked?
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 12:02 AM
Jan 2013

I think we should limit clips to 7 or 5 even better..

and get rid of some assault weapons..

But I still need to get a 12 gauge one of these days....



Am I a gun fuck, or just need gun you fuck? Or to talk to a fuck gun fuck?

0rganism

(23,959 posts)
8. Lawrence made a solid point about the hecklers
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 12:05 AM
Jan 2013

In no way were they "answering" the bereaved father's rhetorical question.

Responding "because second amendment" to "Why do you need massacre weapons?" is like saying "because they're for sale" to "Why do you need cigarettes?" Stupid, stupid, stupid, and also non sequitor.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,185 posts)
11. Oh, come on now. They were just being "less than polite"
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 12:12 AM
Jan 2013

in the words of a lovely DUer/NRA member who was a part of that group.

Less than polite.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
12. But our very own DU defenders of the indefensible will tell you
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 12:23 AM
Jan 2013

that Mr. Heslin was asking for this response. That the fact that he asked this rhetorical question trumps the rules of decorum set forth by the CT legislature for public hearings and apparently trumps the norms of basic human decency.

Gun nuts had the opportunity to provide testimony at that hearing. Only COWARDS disrupt the commentary of a grieving father anonymously from the back of the room. Only assholes defend this indefensible behavior, and they walk amongst us.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
13. I am sorry as I see it a little different
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 12:41 AM
Jan 2013

I am sure all people know and obey Roberts rules. However when Mr. Heslin turned to the audience and asked twice and paused waiting for an answer, a few people responded to the question. I would not have answered that way, but they did.

And I guess I am a low life GUN FUCK as some people here seem to think that just owning a firearm is almost as bad is being a meat eater. It is also one of the few groups on here that are regularly hit with name calling and is fine with all.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
15. There's plenty of groups that get hit with name calling on DU
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 12:48 AM
Jan 2013

I should know, I belong to most of those groups.

Chorophyll

(5,179 posts)
17. I'm sorry. What kind of inhuman shitfoot do you have to be to even have answered that man?
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 12:51 AM
Jan 2013

I don't care if he asked, I don't care if he was waiting for an answer. He's standing there with a picture of his dead baby. His 6-YEAR-OLD CHILD WAS BLOWN AWAY by an assclown armed to the teeth with LEGALLY PURCHASED FIREARMS. How about you respect a man whose going through an unimaginable, unconscionable loss and just not say ANYTHING? That's what a reasonable person would have done, gunowner or not.

Jesus Christ. How important are your damn guns that you can't empathize with a grieving father for two minutes?

gopiscrap

(23,761 posts)
34. Thank you!
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 02:59 AM
Jan 2013

I agree 100% I am beginning to feel that all gun owners are fucking assholes. Why do you have a gun? To injure or kill some one, simple as that! That is not life giving, that is not progressive or liberal. We are better than that as a people!

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
19. H. "Rap" Brown said in c1969 that college protestors were the "New -----s"
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 01:10 AM
Jan 2013

Gun-owners seem to fit the bill where ANYONE can say ANYTHING about ANY gun-owner at ANYTIME.

On DU.

And it seems sanctioned.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
20. Those same people had the opportunity to address the committee. THAT is the appropriate
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 01:14 AM
Jan 2013

means of entering your opinions into the public record. And you know what? I've been there done that in my own state of PA. It is a difficult endeavor when it involves an issue that affects someone you dearly love.

Only a COWARD screams remarks anonymously from the back of a room. Furthermore, what did that parent ask? Mr . Heslin did not challenge the 2nd amendment; he questioned why anyone NEEDS to own that type of weapon. You know, the type that can fire so many bullets in such a short period of time that those babies were butchered and had NO chance of survival. LEO arrived at the scene within three minutes and the killer had the opportunity to fire HUNDREDS of rounds of ammunition into the bodies of small children before he could be stopped.


The vast majority of DUers have no problem with gun owners. My husband and family members own guns, but they are SANE gun owners who support universal background checks and don't think that our founding fathers envisioned handing sick fucks unlimited fire power to murder innocent children when they wrote he 2nd amendment.

But don't let me interrupt your martyrdom.








davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
30. I agree
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 02:27 AM
Jan 2013

I was on the treadmill this morning and my wife was on a treadmill next to me at the gym and I had CNN on (no sound) and was watching it. I'm an expat living in South Korea and disgusting at what has been going on.

It's almost worth passing along this story:

A friend who I worked with for a short time here in Korea recently returned to her home. I see her as a person who is by all means capable of defending herself as she was in the Army reserves. On Facebook the other day she said she misses Korea and being able to walk down the street without fear of getting shot (Korea does not allow people to have guns unless you are in the military or police). For someone I know to say that it makes me understand how people feel over there.

farminator3000

(2,117 posts)
36. you sure are fucking sorry
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:17 AM
Jan 2013

they're too dumb to even say the words 'of the' between 'because' and '2nd amendment'

you're defending a couple of drunk assholes who make your entire cause look like assholes?

noboby gives a crap about your gun, and you just graduated into total assholism.

you deserve to be called names, because your stubborn obtuseness is offensive.

Response to PA Democrat (Reply #12)

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
16. I'm no fan of the NRA, but I wouldn't call that "heckling".
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 12:49 AM
Jan 2013

The guy asked a question and paused for a very long time waiting for an answer. The original video was edited somewhat misleadingly.

SunSeeker

(51,578 posts)
21. They weren't answering his question, they were heckling.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 01:17 AM
Jan 2013

As others further up the thread note, they were just blurting out "Second Amendment!" and "Shall not infringe!" when he made the statement that no one in that room could explain WHY they NEEDED an assault style weapon and then asked rhetorically, WHY they NEEDED these things. He got no answer (there is legitimate need), instead, he got heckled with nonsequiturs.

That was the point Lawrence O'Donnell was making. I don't see any videos of that O'Donnell segment yet, but here's a video of what he was talking about from CBSNews.com:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57566406/gun-rights-advocates-shout-at-newtown-victims-dad/

Response to onehandle (Original post)

 

Oldenuff

(582 posts)
38. and so if someone were to disagree,then
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 10:35 AM
Jan 2013

they would be accused of being right wing trolls...even tho the posting was obviously used to bait those who think the right to bare arms is still a right worth supporting??Right?

Now,I suppose a jury will find that My response was a tool to inflame.

Sounds about right.

and no,I didn't watch the video...there is enough flaming going on already.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
39. Your response was fine...a little confusing but fine.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 11:12 AM
Jan 2013

The right to bear arms is certainly worth supporting...a little obsolete, but what the hell.

So - which well-regulated Militia did YOU join today?

And might as well ask - Why do YOU need an AR? (not want...need)

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