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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums***** Official GOP Debate thread - 8pm ET on CNN - live stream links below ***** #2
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January 26, 2012 - Jacksonville, FL
Sponsored by: Republican Party of Florida/The Hispanic Leadership Network/CNN
Candidates scheduled to attend: Gingrich, Paul, Romney, Santorum
Moderator: Wolf Blitzer
List of all scheduled debates: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_republican_debates
http://www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com/2012-debate-schedule/2011-2012-primary-debate-schedule/
****** LINK to DU DEBATE thread Part ONE here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002226757
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)tridim
(45,358 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)I thought Paul was against ANY government intervention, especially that regarding charges of discrimination!!
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)newt couldn't make 1 block on flat lands
Ebadlun
(336 posts)But I might be wrong - he's not nearly as consistent as he thinks he is.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)at all!!!
Mosaic
(1,451 posts)This scumbag is no different.
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)He suddenly comes to a realization that WHITE people can be discriminated against, too.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)tridim
(45,358 posts)Uhm...
Ebadlun
(336 posts)tridim
(45,358 posts)high density
(13,397 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)GOP 2012 Presidential Candidates
Ronald Ernest Paul
Born: August 20, 1935 (age 76)
Newton Leroy (McPherson) Gingrich
Born: June 17, 1943 (age 68)
Willard Mitt Romney
Born: March 12, 1947 (age 64)
Richard John Santorum
Born: May 10, 1958 (age 53)
See more here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512955
JI7
(89,276 posts)although i never knew how Richard=Dick
oberliner
(58,724 posts)About a year or so difference.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)watched a documentary not long ago and they were talking about Reagan's Alzheimer Disease starting while he was still in office.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)indictment of Reagan for Iran-Contra until Walsh interviewed Reagan and recognized the symptoms of early onset of Alzheimers.
I've never been able to find that citation but, if my memory is correct, it marks Lawrence Walsh as an eminently decent human being.
newspeak
(4,847 posts)remember poppy's "I was out of the loop" moment? I think he lied to congress, and nothing was done about it. Afterwards, we found that he was probably part of the loop. When there's real corruption, it seems on the hill, they all hide their heads like ostriches.
The repugs spent millions of our money attempting to find anything on clinton. Which lie hurt the american people the most? Hint: it wasn't a BJ.
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)tavalon
(27,985 posts)is the only one not knocking on the "entitlement" door.
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)tabatha
(18,795 posts)graywarrior
(59,440 posts)Hilarious!
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)I don't Mittens should even joke about that kind of thing. He hasn't learned anything yet??!?
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)Bluerthanblue
(13,669 posts)Newt says Pres. O "threatened" to withold SS checks?
twisting the truth and lying...
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)cyberswede
(26,117 posts)AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)Its like as if "Obama care" is some kind of pox on the nation. Geeze, this is the best they got?
No... no ..no... and no.
*Takes Tums*
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)but Newty is the biggest ass and mean and disgusting
I got the vision he really talks down to Callista as well. PRobably orders her around since she is just a lowly female
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)He actually said your job should determine 'if ' your have health care and 'which' insurance corporation provides that insurance.
Sounds like a damn fascist corporate state to me.
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)Hepburn
(21,054 posts)...die quickly.
Hepburn
(21,054 posts)...he or she gets better care??? WTF is your idiotic point????
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)jeanmarc
(1,685 posts)This is just pathetic watching these dummies talk over the actual question:
how does this woman afford insurance, especially when she is unemployed?
high density
(13,397 posts)Let's stop debating health insurance because these people have no solutions to the problem.
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)this is making me absolutely sick...
And they call themselves religious
jillan
(39,451 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,368 posts)... says Gingrich, although it's not clear if he's talking healthcare or his previous marriages.
Thank you, Guardian.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Is he looking for a #2 spot with Mr. Grinch?
highplainsdem
(49,041 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)He said, if you have a medical bill that you can't pay the state picks up part of the tab and you pay it back. I guess that would work if your not a disabled paraplegic orphan.
jeanmarc
(1,685 posts)Back in my day, things weren't so expensive and disease and sickness was just so much less complicated!
Ahole.
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)ecstatic
(32,733 posts)It was President Obama who fought for her to get unemployment insurance while repubs called her and other unemployed people lazy!
jeanmarc
(1,685 posts)and then she'll stop clapping when not one of these bums had an answer for her problem.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)NAO
(3,425 posts)How can someone clap to their own death sentence?
Republican propaganda machine.
high density
(13,397 posts)God that would be a disaster.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Obama would win in a massive landslide.
high density
(13,397 posts)I thought the same thing after the GOP in Maine put forward a teabagger gubernatorial candidate... It ended up being a three way race and he got he most votes as the sane vote was split between the Democrat and an independent.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)with which Obama could not win against in, as you put it, a massive landslide. I personally want Romney because he is a 1%er and this spring, that is going to be a firecracker.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)Any artists here?
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)Voten por los Democraticos.
Republican HATE the Hispanic vote.
Mosaic
(1,451 posts)America is a liberal country. The loud mouths who believe otherwise need to stfu.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)it made it sound like Newt thinks that cabinet members aren't in 'dignified roles'
rainbow4321
(9,974 posts)I think it was newt code talk for "pick me, pick me, and I will make him my VP pick!"
jillan
(39,451 posts)My bets are on Newt.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)He's not going to want to spend too much time on this topic I wouldn't think.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)He starts stuttering!
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)There has seriously been close to zero substantive discussion in this debate.
deacon
(5,967 posts)newspeak
(4,847 posts)hosted the debates. But, now it's all contrived, shallow debate. Nothing of substance, nothing that would really help the american people make an informed decision. Most of it is basically shallow and worthless, but some of the plebes seem to eat up that empty, mostly mean, rhetoric.
Gin
(7,212 posts)Mewt and Nitt!
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)adultery anyway. Spineless moderator.
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)Ebadlun
(336 posts)Am I watching the Hello magazine debate by mistake?
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)hehe
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)rocktivity
(44,577 posts)By the way, Mitt, it's much easier to overcome multiple sclerosis and breast cancer when you get all the medical care that money can buy.
rocktivity
FarLeftFist
(6,161 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)That would have been a more fun question.
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)RichGirl
(4,119 posts)Newts wife had an ongoing affair with a married man....what kind of role model is she....the "other woman"?
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)GusFring
(756 posts)is this guy really that popular?
The 4 losers on stage turn my stomach. rubio not so much.
GusFring
(756 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)What a bigot!
Mosaic
(1,451 posts)A real piece of shit.
IcyPeas
(21,910 posts)what would Calista do?
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)As seen on Twitter ...
@OTOOLEFAN Don Millard
Ron Paul: "My wife is the mother of five of our children." There are others? #cnndebate
https://twitter.com/OTOOLEFAN/status/162722702858260480
rocktivity
(44,577 posts)rocktivity
deacon
(5,967 posts)w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Was he running unopposed?
elleng
(131,141 posts)The district had elected only three Democrats in its entire existence and had been in Republican hands continuously since 1895. However, in the massive Democratic wave of the post-Watergate election of 1974, he defeated freshman Republican Paul W. Cronin by an amazing 21-point margin. He was reelected handily in 1976, becoming the first Democrat to hold the district for more than one term. Increasingly popular and well-liked in Massachusetts, in 1978 he ran for and was successfully elected to the Senate, defeating incumbent Edward Brooke by a 10-point margin.
Later that year, he was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin lymphoma[1] and in 1984 announced his retirement from the Senate. His seat went to fellow Democrat and 2004 presidential nominee John Kerry. After fighting the illness he returned to politics, and ran for his party's nomination for President in 1992. Until the 1992 campaign, Tsongas had never lost an election. . .
During the early weeks of 1992, things seemed to be going Tsongas's way when one of the potential major candidates, Bill Clinton, stumbled over issues involving marital infidelity and avoidance of the military draft during Vietnam. While Clinton was hurt by these issues, the damage seemed to bottom out several weeks before the New Hampshire primary. While Tsongas was the actual winner in terms of votes received and delegates won, Clinton advisor James Carville tagged Clinton with the label "the Comeback Kid" and claimed that Clinton's campaign was back on track. While ostensibly the front-runner, Tsongas was already considered by many to be behind Clinton after just one primary.
Following the New Hampshire primary, Tsongas was unable to match Clinton's fundraising. Clinton later went on to win most of the Super Tuesday primaries. Tsongas did go on to win delegate contests in Delaware, Maryland, Arizona, Washington, Utah, and Massachusetts, but his campaign never recovered from Clinton's comeback; Clinton won the primaries of most of the more populous and delegate-rich states.'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Tsongas
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)powergirl
(2,393 posts)Silence cancer something . .
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)As I stated before, when caught off guard and off message, he starts stuttering and not making sense.
rocktivity
(44,577 posts)and he'd STILL be unelectable for his personality alone -- it's NONEXISTENT.
rocktivity
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)powergirl
(2,393 posts)I hate it when I agree with him. I have noticed he got some applause.
sasan76
(4 posts)deacon
(5,967 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)They are living in the past.
newspeak
(4,847 posts)repugs love them some enemies because even if they haven't served their country, they can do that john wayne, tough guy talk. There's nothing heroic putting on a flight suit strutting around or yelling on a bullhorn on top of rubble, because you didn't take warnings seriously.
And those who have seen the horrors of war, who actually know something about real heroism, they make them into villains with the help of our shilling mcpravda media.
deacon
(5,967 posts)agentS
(1,325 posts)We need a DUzy button. This post is a winner.
Mosaic
(1,451 posts)Lying about freedom constantly.
jillan
(39,451 posts)to open trade and travel to Cuba????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????////
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Not accurate necessarily but that's how I see this being reported.
deacon
(5,967 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Doesn't seem comfortable on this topic.
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)They are the only ones who get to answer that one?
Mosaic
(1,451 posts)What a stupid audience.
powergirl
(2,393 posts)instead of Jerusalem.
think
(11,641 posts)downwardly_mobile
(137 posts)nanabugg
(2,198 posts)Just wanted to make sure only one side of the issue was heard in my opinion.
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)powergirl
(2,393 posts)it affects how you treat people. What about Newtie??
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)mindless gas bag
Mosaic
(1,451 posts)These freaks are too much.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)highplainsdem
(49,041 posts)Greywing
(1,124 posts)powergirl
(2,393 posts)and he doesn't live his life like Christ.
newspeak
(4,847 posts)and now any hurt he has done to others or cheating is all now forgiven. What he did, reflects his character, and shows me he has little integrity.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Mosaic
(1,451 posts)Not the true Americans who respect others! Get with the program you moron!
deacon
(5,967 posts)w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)newspeak
(4,847 posts)these unevolved, compassionless thugs really do need their own stomping grounds. Where they can compete, survival of the most ruthless, corrupt; and the weak can just die. I really don't want to be around such ugly people.
It's amazing that some of these people are the ones who fought keeping life support on that woman in florida who was in a coma; and now, if you can't afford medical you should just die?
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)These jerks are GOP Fascist Theocrats. Every single damn one of them.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)I think there's really not enough time for a whole new thread.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)It's because Wolfie is letting each candidate answer each question.
It's not a Romney v Newt showdown. Ron Paul and Santorum are getting their opportunities as well.
I give Wolf kudos for the first time in my life
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)JJW
(1,416 posts)if corporations are people created by their Gods.
deacon
(5,967 posts)Digit
(6,163 posts)Wolf was a complete bust.
deacon
(5,967 posts)w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)Ebadlun
(336 posts)It's better than the Somalian system you seem to be aiming for.
newspeak
(4,847 posts)to get the country in order. I think these candidates would just fit the bill. I would rather live in europe than a violent, deregulated nightmare like somalia. Oh, and you better pick another place to pick on, europe is the one location I wouldn't be browbeating. You might get the plebes starting to think what most countries in europe, what their taxes pay for and what we get for our taxes.
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)and get the puke taste out of my mouth
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)looks like they are giving us a few weeks break
downwardly_mobile
(137 posts)I think Romney had some good moments, Gingrich never got airborne so I think it was a loss for him, seeing that the polls in Florida are swinging back to Romney.
Overall, I think Santorum did well, I think he IS their most electable. The Goldilocks candidate: not too hot (Newt) not too cold (Romney.) Plus, for a politician, he's relatively youthful AND youthful-looking.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Response to downwardly_mobile (Reply #137)
Tx4obama This message was self-deleted by its author.
deacon
(5,967 posts)all, let's all go home." Horrible.
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)he tried to avoid name-calling and stay on-topic
agentS
(1,325 posts)Paul didn't substantially lose.
Newt and the others lost big 'charisma' points with their arguments on taxes, sounding angry, and the whole Fannie and Freddie argument and hypocrisy.
It's the hypocrisy, stupid! You can't insult someone on a debate stage for investing in a company when you yourself are investing in the same company (OR working for same company).