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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 06:21 PM Jan 2013

Papa John’s Blames The Media For Obamacare Blunder – Requests They Take Stories Down

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/01/27/papa-johns-blames-the-media-for-obamacare-blunder-requests-they-take-stories-down/

Papa John’s Blames The Media For Obamacare Blunder – Requests They Take Stories Down
2013/01/27
By Lorraine Devon Wilke


When to leave well-enough alone might just elude Papa John’s and its notorious CEO, John Schnatter.

It seems that even after the major public relations fail of loudly protesting the Obamacare ruling and making a scene about cutting hours and raising prices to accommodate it, the big guy who’s happy enough to give away 2 million free pizzas to Super Bowl fans despite all this financial constraint, has now sicced his “people” on journalists who covered the story.

Oh, yes. If you can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube, you can at least try to get the tube shoved under the rug. Or, that appears to be the thinking of Mr. Schnatter and his new PR dogs, a firm called Sitrick. According to a breaking story in the Stabley Times, Sitrick has come after them to take down a story they reported on a CNN investigative report on Papa John’s claim that he’d have to raise the price of pizza because of Obamacare. Did you get that? Papa John’s PR stooges asked Stabley Times to take down their story on CNN. Wow, huh?

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In reference to why Papa John’s would come after a publication like ours for simply relaying something that CNN had reported about the pizza chain, the PR firm claims that it “somehow missed the CNN story about which you wrote.” This despite the fact that CNN first aired the clip in August of last year, and has since become the most often cited proof that Schnatter’s claims of increased costs were dishonest…

In the interest of fairness, Papa John’s representative offered this as its reasoning for why our coverage of the matter should be unpublished, which we’ll share here: “What {Schnatter} said, in response to an investor call, was the company estimated that Obamacare would result in an increased cost to the company of approximately 11 cents to 14 cents per pizza, ‘but our business model and unit economics are about as ideal as you can get for a food company to absorb Obamacare, ergo, we have a high ticket average with extremely high frequency of order counts, millions of pizzas per year.’” The pizza chain appears to be attempting to split hairs as to whether Schnatter claimed he would actually raise prices as a result of ObamaCare, or whether he would simply see his own costs rise and absorb the cost. But the research done by CNN makes clear that ObamaCare will not cause Papa John’s to see a cost increase of any kind, which means that in either case Schnatter’s claim is a false one…


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WHAT IS HE THINKING?

Personally, if I were a shareholder or on the board of directors of Papa John’s I’d be talking about a coup. Since I’m not, what I will do is – you got it – write another story about the sheer stupidity, myopic thinking, and even slightly mob-like tactic of pressuring journalists to take down coverage. I’m wondering, what will they do to journalists who DON’T take down their content? Clearly Stabley Times isn’t. We here at Addicting Info certainly won’t…in fact, see…we’re writing more!

But I wonder if we’ll find a horse’s head in the parking lot any time soon.
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Papa John’s Blames The Media For Obamacare Blunder – Requests They Take Stories Down (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2013 OP
If he would just be quiet Sherman A1 Jan 2013 #1
What would Herman do? panzerfaust Jan 2013 #79
Papa johns pizza is VASTLY inferior to Crozet Pizza or to Dr Ho's Humble Pie in North Garden peacebird Jan 2013 #2
I'm sure that there are FROZEN pizzas which are better. sakabatou Jan 2013 #4
Buuuuurp! El Shaman Jan 2013 #41
Crappy pizza jdg18rabbit Jan 2013 #66
Absolutely riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #42
I like Red Baron sakabatou Jan 2013 #45
Red Baron deep pan is pretty good. And it costs what? $3? stopbush Jan 2013 #80
Never had the worst 3 sakabatou Jan 2013 #83
Yep, same here ... and it's better often than at a pizza place, and around here waaaay cheaper. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #78
There are NICO9000 Jan 2013 #49
DiGiorno seems pretty good. The downside is it's a Nestlé company. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #77
I won't do business with Papa Johns or Whole foods anymore DesertRat Jan 2013 #9
Hear, hear! crim son Jan 2013 #29
and remember it's Phlem Jan 2013 #24
Hey Papa Jerk, you went there, BarbaRosa Jan 2013 #3
you went there, and now there you are. skypilot Jan 2013 #55
It is to the point now that if I see one of his commercials MrYikes Jan 2013 #5
Makes me not want to watch the damn Super Bowl! Bake Jan 2013 #67
Here's a new corporate policy: how about not screwing over your employees? shenmue Jan 2013 #6
Fuck that guy jberryhill Jan 2013 #7
"WHAT IS HE THINKING? " ProSense Jan 2013 #8
He's not. Poor John has eaten too many of his own pizzas. n/m Cha Jan 2013 #27
Funniest post all day... Kalidurga Jan 2013 #10
In my house it will always be known as "Porta Johns". russspeakeasy Jan 2013 #11
Oh yeah.. that's similar but better than my "Poopy John" n/m Cha Jan 2013 #28
He doesn't want my business? OK, he won't have it. Faygo Kid Jan 2013 #12
I read "Sitrick" as *Schtick*. pacalo Jan 2013 #13
I believe that it is pronounced They_Live Jan 2013 #37
Ahhhh... pacalo Jan 2013 #38
Kiss the darkest parts of my ass Schnatter. geomon666 Jan 2013 #14
Like this fool thinks I will forget.... Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #15
Papa John is about to learn a harsh lesson of the internet: there are no take backs. Initech Jan 2013 #16
Steven Colbert ripped his ass properly RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #17
If he had cared enough in the first place jazzimov Jan 2013 #18
which football player told Papa John forget the 2 million free pizza and give your employees diabeticman Jan 2013 #19
SCHNATTER WANTS TO MAKE IT GO AWAY BY BRINGING IT BACK UP drynberg Jan 2013 #20
You can't un-ring a bell. Lasher Jan 2013 #40
LOL. Since he can't un-ring it, he just keeps on ringing it! SunSeeker Jan 2013 #73
First, we'll re-intube the toothpaste...then... trof Jan 2013 #21
When Poopy John first shot off his big mouth.. he came across as a Cha Jan 2013 #22
Eh, papa John pizza sucks anyway. crazyjoe Jan 2013 #23
No self respecting person would eat Papa Johns now anyway stultusporcos Jan 2013 #25
Memo to Schnatter Dirty Socialist Jan 2013 #26
I can understand Schnatter hiring a P.R. firm to try put his idiot comments ... Botany Jan 2013 #30
pee ewww Why Syzygy Jan 2013 #35
Shitty pizza and he is feeling the boycott...we let Limbaugh off the hook...don't let it happen agai ELI BOY 1950 Jan 2013 #31
I have a online account with Papa John's. OverBurn Jan 2013 #32
I had someone staying with me who liked his pizza best, I just could not order it though hollysmom Jan 2013 #53
Another certain pizza CEO who once was a leading Republican primary candidate in the 2012 cycle alp227 Jan 2013 #33
Hey nasty tasting pizza guy... SummerSnow Jan 2013 #34
as howard stern often says, 'if you want me to buy your stuff, shut up' pasto76 Jan 2013 #36
Schnatter is a terrible CEO and the shareholders should get rid of him while they can grantcart Jan 2013 #39
That sucking sound? Rex Jan 2013 #43
Typical right winger. Dawson Leery Jan 2013 #44
You dug your grave, "Papa John", now lie in it, you prick. Ruby the Liberal Jan 2013 #46
! DearAbby Jan 2013 #47
Typical whiny repuke. Zoeisright Jan 2013 #48
Ain't that the free market at work? Nt XanaDUer Jan 2013 #50
Johnny, we heard your message loud and clear, Dawson Leery Jan 2013 #51
The negative PR must be hurting his business. Apophis Jan 2013 #52
A horse's HEAD? riqster Jan 2013 #54
a horses head in right wing papa johns parking lot? I knew that crappy beef pizza tasted weird. Sunlei Jan 2013 #56
His politics, his utterly ostentatious lifestyle juxtaposed to the low pay to his employees Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #57
You nailed it! Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2013 #65
Too late for Papa John. I found a local pizzaria, Nick's, that's SO much better. Zen Democrat Jan 2013 #58
Mr. Schnatter Is A Greedy, Disgusting Un-American Pig supercats Jan 2013 #59
too late Liberal_in_LA Jan 2013 #60
Papa John lost me after Twitt dropped by and left us with this: fried eggs Jan 2013 #61
Stop shoveling that horseshit SwankyXomb Jan 2013 #62
Haha. Too late, you doofus... SidDithers Jan 2013 #63
Poor baby! Phentex Jan 2013 #64
It's just too hot in that kitchen. Third Doctor Jan 2013 #68
only if your lying in bed in the parking lot with silk sheets PatrynXX Jan 2013 #69
PJ shut down in our town after being open about a year magic59 Jan 2013 #70
I work part time at one as a driver Notafraidtoo Jan 2013 #71
Your judgment is as crappy as your pizza, John Schnatter! SunSeeker Jan 2013 #72
Massive advertising in my area. hamsterjill Jan 2013 #74
Typical conservaloon. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #75
I get better pizza at the grocery store, way better! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #76
I only buy from mom and pop pizza places now aint_no_life_nowhere Jan 2013 #81
Now I'm hungry for pizza! lol It's lunch time here. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #82
Isn't this about the time most people would stop digging? Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #84
The age old cry of assholes: it's the media's fault! n/t Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #85

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. If he would just be quiet
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 06:23 PM
Jan 2013

eventually the story might be less of a cluster F for him. Bringing it up again serves him not at all.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
2. Papa johns pizza is VASTLY inferior to Crozet Pizza or to Dr Ho's Humble Pie in North Garden
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 06:33 PM
Jan 2013

So ef him and his! Same to Whole Foods (or whole Paycheck, as my son calls it...)

jdg18rabbit

(2 posts)
66. Crappy pizza
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 06:20 PM
Jan 2013

Had one about 5 years ago, it was good, had one recently, meh! Order local, or cook one from TJ's, you'll like it better.

riverbendviewgal

(4,253 posts)
42. Absolutely
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 09:18 PM
Jan 2013

and you often can buy a big one for 4 or 5 bucks...THey are good without doing anything but I add some extra mozzarella and veggies.

It is way enough for two people...often I just have a quarter of the pizza. My boyfriend will eat one quarter and sometime half of the other 1/4 slice.

Pizza from these franchises are already frozen and don't taste as good..

My favorite brand is Delissio

If I want to have a take out pizza I go to an Italian family restaurant. It is real. but my frozen pizza is great

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
80. Red Baron deep pan is pretty good. And it costs what? $3?
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 01:54 PM
Jan 2013

Di Giorno is better than Papa John's. So is CA Pizza Kitchen to some extent.

Papa John's, Dominos and Chuckie Cheese qualify as the worst chain pizzas out there.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
9. I won't do business with Papa Johns or Whole foods anymore
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 07:01 PM
Jan 2013

I thought everyone called it Whole Paycheck.

MrYikes

(720 posts)
5. It is to the point now that if I see one of his commercials
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 06:34 PM
Jan 2013

I will immediately change channels. I refuse to look at him.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
67. Makes me not want to watch the damn Super Bowl!
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 08:24 PM
Jan 2013

Maybe I can watch the game and flip channels during the commercials ...

Bake

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. Fuck that guy
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 06:39 PM
Jan 2013

SCHNATTER, JOHN H MR
LOUISVILLE,KY 40223 REQUESTED 4/24/2012 $30,800 Republican National Cmte

SCHNATTER, JOHN H MR
LOUISVILLE,KY 40223 INFORMATION REQUESTED PER BEST EFFORTS 4/24/2012 $2,500 Romney, Mitt


SCHNATTER, JOHN H MR
LOUISVILLE,KY 40223 PAPA JOHNS INC. 4/24/2012 $2,500 Romney, Mitt

SCHNATTER, JOHN
LOUISVILLE,KY 40223 PAPA JOHN'S PIZZA 9/13/2012 $1,000 Republican Party of Jefferson County

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
8. "WHAT IS HE THINKING? "
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 06:44 PM
Jan 2013

It's hurting his profits. Health care reform opposition is one of the RW's biggest fails.

Majority Of Americans Think Implementing Obamacare Should Be A ‘Top Priority’ In Their State
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022259448

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
10. Funniest post all day...
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 07:04 PM
Jan 2013

I hope Papa John's employees are able to find another job soon. Cuz if this guy keeps this up they will have to sooner rather than later.

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
14. Kiss the darkest parts of my ass Schnatter.
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 07:34 PM
Jan 2013

This guy is living in Neverland while his workers grind out that disgusting pizza of his for a pittance.

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
20. SCHNATTER WANTS TO MAKE IT GO AWAY BY BRINGING IT BACK UP
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 08:01 PM
Jan 2013

What a sad joke, and poor businessman too. Papa Outhouse ain't gonna be on my speed dial, Whole Paycheck either. Losers.

Lasher

(27,597 posts)
40. You can't un-ring a bell.
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 08:57 PM
Jan 2013

And as you point out, it is usually counterproductive to try. He's not very smart, is he?

Cha

(297,323 posts)
22. When Poopy John first shot off his big mouth.. he came across as a
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 08:04 PM
Jan 2013

weasel. Now he's cementing his weaselness for posterity. Keep digging.

Thanks babylonsistah~

Botany

(70,516 posts)
30. I can understand Schnatter hiring a P.R. firm to try put his idiot comments ...
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 08:20 PM
Jan 2013

.... behind him but for that firm to go after a reporter who wrote about the
story just brings it all up again.

BTW most of the affordable care act aka Obamacare does not go into effect
until 2014 so this guy bitching about his costs is just plain stupid.




Schnatter "house."



Romney @ Schnatter's house.

OverBurn

(951 posts)
32. I have a online account with Papa John's.
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 08:28 PM
Jan 2013

I like his pizza's better than most delivery, maybe I have poor taste, but I liked them. I ordered at least once per week.

After his idiotic statements about Obamacare I made sure they knew I was not ordering another pizzas from an a-hole like that. I bet a lot of other people did the same, now they are trying to backtrack. Screw'em.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
53. I had someone staying with me who liked his pizza best, I just could not order it though
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 02:21 PM
Jan 2013

Sad thing is I am in an Italian neighborhood and my pizza loving friends from out of state have made a point about how great local Pizza is, I am spoiled to good pizza. It is what is available in your area and what you are used to eating. I have a friend here who swears Domino's is the best, to me it is red paint on cardboard.

Sorry that idiots make you sacrifice what you like. I can never buy anything Nestle and they keep buying companies I like.

alp227

(32,034 posts)
33. Another certain pizza CEO who once was a leading Republican primary candidate in the 2012 cycle
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 08:35 PM
Jan 2013

has some advice:

BLAME YOURSELF!!!!!!

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
34. Hey nasty tasting pizza guy...
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 08:39 PM
Jan 2013

Didn't you mean what you said? Aren't you a man who stands up for your convictions? Here's some advice..if you shut up, no one can repeat what you said. You wanted the media to repeat you.LOL

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
39. Schnatter is a terrible CEO and the shareholders should get rid of him while they can
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 08:52 PM
Jan 2013

He's made a dozen basic mistakes that we can see leaving you wonder what we haven't seen yet:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1103548

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
43. That sucking sound?
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 09:22 PM
Jan 2013

Millions in profit going down the drain as the owner shows us even more how much of a totally worthless person he is and that hurts his product and sales. I hope he keeps it up.

I feel sorry for anyone that works for this company. The owner is the biggest idiot I've seen since Donald Frump.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
51. Johnny, we heard your message loud and clear,
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 02:11 PM
Jan 2013

just as the country klan made it clear they do not want moderates/liberals/progressives in their ranks, you have made the same clear.
Just say no to Papa John's.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
57. His politics, his utterly ostentatious lifestyle juxtaposed to the low pay to his employees
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:43 PM
Jan 2013

make John the very picture of everything that is wrong in the American business culture, gluttony, ego, a lack of curiosity and a absence of imagination. He's just a bad neighbor screwing everyone with shitty product and crappy jobs.

Zen Democrat

(5,901 posts)
58. Too late for Papa John. I found a local pizzaria, Nick's, that's SO much better.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:51 PM
Jan 2013

Thanks for your tirade, John. It worked out great for me. And you'll still never get another dime from my family.

 

supercats

(429 posts)
59. Mr. Schnatter Is A Greedy, Disgusting Un-American Pig
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:21 PM
Jan 2013

Everyone should boy-cott his pizza, for two reasons: 1. He's a 1%er who doesn't believe in the American way, which is to pay your fair share and don't try to scheme to get out of it or bitch about it. 2. His pizza is THE WORST pizza around, bar none, period.

fried eggs

(910 posts)
61. Papa John lost me after Twitt dropped by and left us with this:
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:29 PM
Jan 2013
Mitt Romney at a private fundraiser last month at the house of Papa John's founder John Schnatter:

What a welcome, what a place this is. My goodness. Who would have imagined pizza could build this, you know that? This is really something. Don’t you love this country? What a home this is, what grounds these are, the pool, the golf course. You know if a Democrat were here he’d look around and say no one should live like this, you know? Republicans come here and say everyone should live like this, all right. This is a real tribute to America, to entrepreneurship.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/02/1088160/-Mitt-Romney-gushes-over-Papa-John-s-founder-s-pool-and-golf-course

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
64. Poor baby!
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:53 PM
Jan 2013

I wasn't sure if the story made a difference to Papa John's bottom line but I am happy to hear that they are worried.

 

magic59

(429 posts)
70. PJ shut down in our town after being open about a year
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:31 PM
Jan 2013

Nasty pizza. Little Caesars is owned by progressives and has a much better product.

Notafraidtoo

(402 posts)
71. I work part time at one as a driver
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 01:57 AM
Jan 2013

Business has been down almost 20% from last year thats after 6 years straight of growth..last week they had to throw away a lot of trays of dough for the first time in years and i live in a very red state..i wonder if its the boycott, i know i don't give them any of my money.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
74. Massive advertising in my area.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 12:16 PM
Jan 2013

Every other commercial these days is "Papa" trying to plug his pizza. Times MUST be hard!!! LOL

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
75. Typical conservaloon.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 12:19 PM
Jan 2013

Also, I feel that Little Caesar's and California Pizza Kitchen are superior to a notable degree when it comes to quality, compared to Pizza Hut an the like.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
81. I only buy from mom and pop pizza places now
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:56 PM
Jan 2013

The pizza at these chains like the completely inedible Dominos, Lil Caesar's, or Pooper John is not only more expensive than the local sole owner's pizza but far inferior to it, at least in my neighborhood.

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