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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/01/27/papa-johns-blames-the-media-for-obamacare-blunder-requests-they-take-stories-down/Papa Johns Blames The Media For Obamacare Blunder Requests They Take Stories Down
2013/01/27
By Lorraine Devon Wilke
When to leave well-enough alone might just elude Papa Johns and its notorious CEO, John Schnatter.
It seems that even after the major public relations fail of loudly protesting the Obamacare ruling and making a scene about cutting hours and raising prices to accommodate it, the big guy whos happy enough to give away 2 million free pizzas to Super Bowl fans despite all this financial constraint, has now sicced his people on journalists who covered the story.
Oh, yes. If you cant put the toothpaste back in the tube, you can at least try to get the tube shoved under the rug. Or, that appears to be the thinking of Mr. Schnatter and his new PR dogs, a firm called Sitrick. According to a breaking story in the Stabley Times, Sitrick has come after them to take down a story they reported on a CNN investigative report on Papa Johns claim that hed have to raise the price of pizza because of Obamacare. Did you get that? Papa Johns PR stooges asked Stabley Times to take down their story on CNN. Wow, huh?
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In the interest of fairness, Papa Johns representative offered this as its reasoning for why our coverage of the matter should be unpublished, which well share here: What {Schnatter} said, in response to an investor call, was the company estimated that Obamacare would result in an increased cost to the company of approximately 11 cents to 14 cents per pizza, but our business model and unit economics are about as ideal as you can get for a food company to absorb Obamacare, ergo, we have a high ticket average with extremely high frequency of order counts, millions of pizzas per year. The pizza chain appears to be attempting to split hairs as to whether Schnatter claimed he would actually raise prices as a result of ObamaCare, or whether he would simply see his own costs rise and absorb the cost. But the research done by CNN makes clear that ObamaCare will not cause Papa Johns to see a cost increase of any kind, which means that in either case Schnatters claim is a false one
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WHAT IS HE THINKING?
Personally, if I were a shareholder or on the board of directors of Papa Johns Id be talking about a coup. Since Im not, what I will do is you got it write another story about the sheer stupidity, myopic thinking, and even slightly mob-like tactic of pressuring journalists to take down coverage. Im wondering, what will they do to journalists who DONT take down their content? Clearly Stabley Times isnt. We here at Addicting Info certainly wont in fact, see were writing more!
But I wonder if well find a horses head in the parking lot any time soon.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)eventually the story might be less of a cluster F for him. Bringing it up again serves him not at all.
panzerfaust
(2,818 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)So ef him and his! Same to Whole Foods (or whole Paycheck, as my son calls it...)
sakabatou
(42,158 posts)El Shaman
(583 posts)I just had one of em!!! TY
jdg18rabbit
(2 posts)Had one about 5 years ago, it was good, had one recently, meh! Order local, or cook one from TJ's, you'll like it better.
riverbendviewgal
(4,253 posts)and you often can buy a big one for 4 or 5 bucks...THey are good without doing anything but I add some extra mozzarella and veggies.
It is way enough for two people...often I just have a quarter of the pizza. My boyfriend will eat one quarter and sometime half of the other 1/4 slice.
Pizza from these franchises are already frozen and don't taste as good..
My favorite brand is Delissio
If I want to have a take out pizza I go to an Italian family restaurant. It is real. but my frozen pizza is great
sakabatou
(42,158 posts)stopbush
(24,396 posts)Di Giorno is better than Papa John's. So is CA Pizza Kitchen to some extent.
Papa John's, Dominos and Chuckie Cheese qualify as the worst chain pizzas out there.
sakabatou
(42,158 posts)Isn't Chucky supposed to be for kids?
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)NICO9000
(970 posts)Freschetta is an excellent pizza, way better than any chain delivery pie.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)I thought everyone called it Whole Paycheck.
crim son
(27,464 posts)Me either. And if PJ's or WF's is feeling it, excellent.
Phlem
(6,323 posts)A$$whole foods now.
-p
BarbaRosa
(2,684 posts)and now there you are.
skypilot
(8,854 posts)I am SO going to steal that. Thanks in advance.
MrYikes
(720 posts)I will immediately change channels. I refuse to look at him.
Bake
(21,977 posts)Maybe I can watch the game and flip channels during the commercials ...
Bake
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Just a thought.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)SCHNATTER, JOHN H MR
LOUISVILLE,KY 40223 REQUESTED 4/24/2012 $30,800 Republican National Cmte
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LOUISVILLE,KY 40223 INFORMATION REQUESTED PER BEST EFFORTS 4/24/2012 $2,500 Romney, Mitt
SCHNATTER, JOHN H MR
LOUISVILLE,KY 40223 PAPA JOHNS INC. 4/24/2012 $2,500 Romney, Mitt
SCHNATTER, JOHN
LOUISVILLE,KY 40223 PAPA JOHN'S PIZZA 9/13/2012 $1,000 Republican Party of Jefferson County
ProSense
(116,464 posts)It's hurting his profits. Health care reform opposition is one of the RW's biggest fails.
Majority Of Americans Think Implementing Obamacare Should Be A Top Priority In Their State
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022259448
Cha
(297,323 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I hope Papa John's employees are able to find another job soon. Cuz if this guy keeps this up they will have to sooner rather than later.
russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)Faygo Kid
(21,478 posts)Will never pay a dime for that idiot's pizza.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)And its client is Schnatter.
They_Live
(3,236 posts)Shit Bricks
pacalo
(24,721 posts)I schtand corrected.
geomon666
(7,512 posts)This guy is living in Neverland while his workers grind out that disgusting pizza of his for a pittance.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)Initech
(100,081 posts)RandiFan1290
(6,237 posts)"hot turd pie"
That is gold!
jazzimov
(1,456 posts)about his employees, then he wouldn't have this problem now.
diabeticman
(3,121 posts)insurance
drynberg
(1,648 posts)What a sad joke, and poor businessman too. Papa Outhouse ain't gonna be on my speed dial, Whole Paycheck either. Losers.
Lasher
(27,597 posts)And as you point out, it is usually counterproductive to try. He's not very smart, is he?
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)trof
(54,256 posts)K&R
Cha
(297,323 posts)weasel. Now he's cementing his weaselness for posterity. Keep digging.
Thanks babylonsistah~
crazyjoe
(1,191 posts)I'll take a small bar pizza any day.
stultusporcos
(327 posts)Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)The truth is not a commodity to be bought or sold. DEAL WITH IT!!!
Botany
(70,516 posts).... behind him but for that firm to go after a reporter who wrote about the
story just brings it all up again.
BTW most of the affordable care act aka Obamacare does not go into effect
until 2014 so this guy bitching about his costs is just plain stupid.
Schnatter "house."
Romney @ Schnatter's house.
Why Syzygy
(18,928 posts)That guy is still one smarmy, repulsive sob.
ELI BOY 1950
(173 posts)OverBurn
(951 posts)I like his pizza's better than most delivery, maybe I have poor taste, but I liked them. I ordered at least once per week.
After his idiotic statements about Obamacare I made sure they knew I was not ordering another pizzas from an a-hole like that. I bet a lot of other people did the same, now they are trying to backtrack. Screw'em.
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)Sad thing is I am in an Italian neighborhood and my pizza loving friends from out of state have made a point about how great local Pizza is, I am spoiled to good pizza. It is what is available in your area and what you are used to eating. I have a friend here who swears Domino's is the best, to me it is red paint on cardboard.
Sorry that idiots make you sacrifice what you like. I can never buy anything Nestle and they keep buying companies I like.
alp227
(32,034 posts)has some advice:
BLAME YOURSELF!!!!!!
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Didn't you mean what you said? Aren't you a man who stands up for your convictions? Here's some advice..if you shut up, no one can repeat what you said. You wanted the media to repeat you.LOL
pasto76
(1,589 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)He's made a dozen basic mistakes that we can see leaving you wonder what we haven't seen yet:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1103548
Rex
(65,616 posts)Millions in profit going down the drain as the owner shows us even more how much of a totally worthless person he is and that hurts his product and sales. I hope he keeps it up.
I feel sorry for anyone that works for this company. The owner is the biggest idiot I've seen since Donald Frump.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Blaming others for his own errors.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Karma rocks.
DearAbby
(12,461 posts)Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)Gets caught out in his assholeness and blames everyone else for his own stupidity.
XanaDUer
(12,939 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)just as the country klan made it clear they do not want moderates/liberals/progressives in their ranks, you have made the same clear.
Just say no to Papa John's.
Apophis
(1,407 posts)Good.
riqster
(13,986 posts)I'm thinking, Poopoo John being what he is, the other end would be more likely.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)make John the very picture of everything that is wrong in the American business culture, gluttony, ego, a lack of curiosity and a absence of imagination. He's just a bad neighbor screwing everyone with shitty product and crappy jobs.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)Thanks for your tirade, John. It worked out great for me. And you'll still never get another dime from my family.
supercats
(429 posts)Everyone should boy-cott his pizza, for two reasons: 1. He's a 1%er who doesn't believe in the American way, which is to pay your fair share and don't try to scheme to get out of it or bitch about it. 2. His pizza is THE WORST pizza around, bar none, period.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)fried eggs
(910 posts)What a welcome, what a place this is. My goodness. Who would have imagined pizza could build this, you know that? This is really something. Dont you love this country? What a home this is, what grounds these are, the pool, the golf course. You know if a Democrat were here hed look around and say no one should live like this, you know? Republicans come here and say everyone should live like this, all right. This is a real tribute to America, to entrepreneurship.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/02/1088160/-Mitt-Romney-gushes-over-Papa-John-s-founder-s-pool-and-golf-course
SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)or at least stop trying to pass it off as a pizza topping.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)can't put that toothpaste back in the tube.
Sid
Phentex
(16,334 posts)I wasn't sure if the story made a difference to Papa John's bottom line but I am happy to hear that they are worried.
Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)would you find such a head..
magic59
(429 posts)Nasty pizza. Little Caesars is owned by progressives and has a much better product.
Notafraidtoo
(402 posts)Business has been down almost 20% from last year thats after 6 years straight of growth..last week they had to throw away a lot of trays of dough for the first time in years and i live in a very red state..i wonder if its the boycott, i know i don't give them any of my money.
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)hamsterjill
(15,222 posts)Every other commercial these days is "Papa" trying to plug his pizza. Times MUST be hard!!! LOL
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Also, I feel that Little Caesar's and California Pizza Kitchen are superior to a notable degree when it comes to quality, compared to Pizza Hut an the like.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)The pizza at these chains like the completely inedible Dominos, Lil Caesar's, or Pooper John is not only more expensive than the local sole owner's pizza but far inferior to it, at least in my neighborhood.