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Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:53 PM Jan 2012

Ad seeking 2.5 million petition signers to demand repeal of "Obamacare" before it gets to SCOTUS for

review in the spring. Citing Sotomayor's presence on the court as some how guaranteeing that it will be upheld. \

Just pointing out that those wishing to take action, yeah or nay, can pick their weapon. I will be calling my legislators and letting them know that I do not want it repealed but improved.

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Ad seeking 2.5 million petition signers to demand repeal of "Obamacare" before it gets to SCOTUS for (Original Post) Skidmore Jan 2012 OP
Just out of curiousity, how would 2.5 million petitions stop it? LynneSin Jan 2012 #1
I think they are trying to gin up something akin to some grassroots protest to undershore Skidmore Jan 2012 #7
The petition itself is meaningless, BUT Blue_Tires Jan 2012 #8
2.5 million out of 310 million is pitiful julian09 Jan 2012 #2
It's not. Skidmore Jan 2012 #6
They are in a no win situation Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #3
Isn't social security mandatory? nt julian09 Jan 2012 #4
it isn't for profit, it is a government program Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #5

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
1. Just out of curiousity, how would 2.5 million petitions stop it?
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:55 PM
Jan 2012

I mean a long time ago petiions used to mean something. A group of people would take it to the street to get people involved and in the know about what needed fixing in this country.

These online petitions are a joke. I refuse to sign any of them.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
7. I think they are trying to gin up something akin to some grassroots protest to undershore
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:20 PM
Jan 2012

campaign rhetoric since the Teabaggers have pretty much been deflated.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
8. The petition itself is meaningless, BUT
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:33 PM
Jan 2012

The GOP PACs now have 2.5 million addresses to spam, register as new voters and solicit donations/volunteers from...Yeah, some of them are already on the mailing lists, but a good percentage of them will be new...

That's the real reason they put these together...

 

julian09

(1,435 posts)
2. 2.5 million out of 310 million is pitiful
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:14 PM
Jan 2012

is that the Huckabee ad that's been on TV for years? I can't stand him.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
6. It's not.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 07:12 PM
Jan 2012

It is some group called RepealObamaCare,org or some such name. I've seen it several times today.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
3. They are in a no win situation
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:57 PM
Jan 2012

Between the 2.5 million Americans between the ages of 18 and 26 who are now covered on their parent's policies and the seniors who had fallen into the "doughnut hole" now receiving additional help with drug costs repealing the law is political suicide. They, and their families and friends, will blame the Republicans for stripping benefits to protect the insurance companies' profits.


In round numbers, polls have approval of the law as written at ~50%. Of the ~50% who don't approve of the law as written you have ~20% (of which I am one) who disapprove of the law because it doesn't go far enough and ~30% who think it went to far or want no reform at all. This leaves us with roughly a 70-30 split when it come to reforming health care.



The SCOTUS case is even better.

If they repeal the entire law the outrage from that 70% will lead to a huge win for Democrats this fall.

If they uphold the entire law it will be seen as a clean win for President Obama and only the ~30% will be upset about it.

If they overturn the mandate as a stand alone clause we win big. The insurance companies will throw a fit and demand that something be done to protect their profits. It is my hope that this leads to a public option to cover those who chose to not purchase for profit health care insurance. It may even lead to some watered down form of single payer.



If this is the Huckabee group, I think he is just cashing in while he can. Once the Supreme Court rules on this the game changes.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
5. it isn't for profit, it is a government program
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 06:21 PM
Jan 2012

you can't compare something taxpayer funded to being forced to contribute to a private company's profits

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