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(72,790 posts)He can keep his job as Senator, though.
patrice
(47,992 posts)FarPoint
(12,396 posts)Just stop!
Matariki
(18,775 posts)How/why do you think Reid's actions benefit the political process?
FarPoint
(12,396 posts)for the next 4 years....thus cripple us. Let's take a look at why he failed...it is a team effort and the other Democrats didn't want to do their job, didn't back true filibuster reform....
I think Harry had every intention to do a complete overhaul....some, a few, but enough other Democrats for whatever reason stood along the sidelines. I'm disgusted....but we don't necessarily need to remove Harry....the problem is an old, familiar one....cohesiveness.
It is the team that failed.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)Did something change? If so, you wouldn't happen to have a link about support dropping below 51 votes?
FarPoint
(12,396 posts)I hope the facts come out.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)If I heard the news correctly yesterday, this vote won't be public regarding how Senators voted. Which sucks. A lot.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)those absolute positive 51 votes should be on the record.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)From numerous news sources.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)oh wait...that's not right. What is he again? Majority leader? Well then, maybe he's supposed to lead the majority.
He claimed to have enough votes yesterday for the 41-vote fix, which would be a massive improvement.
pkdu
(3,977 posts)Reid bends himself over before Turtleman even asks.
still_one
(92,193 posts)RandiFan1290
(6,235 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Answer those and I'm in.
FarPoint
(12,396 posts)It's a team failure.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Not for Udal/Merkley, but for much better reforms than this crap.
jillan
(39,451 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)If he had the votes and didnt call for the vote, I think those Senators that wanted reform would speak out. If he didnt have the votes then you should vent your anger on the 8 or 9 Democrats that pledged to vote with Republicans for no reform.
Pryderi
(6,772 posts)leftstreet
(36,108 posts)lsewpershad
(2,620 posts)MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)When in fact this is exactly what the owners want.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)This is corporate kabuki, bipartisan complicity, and utterly necessary to ensure the excuse of not possibly being able to pass legislation for the people and against corporations.
Don't we know this corrupt script by heart, by now?
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)The system is so totally broken.
forestpath
(3,102 posts)that the higher the stakes, the more worthless he is.
southern_belle
(1,647 posts)He pulled the same shit 4 years ago, remember?
Selatius
(20,441 posts)Now, the Democrats in the Senate can say they tried an honest faith attempt at reform without actually being forced to name the specific senators in their caucus that bolted and sided with the Republicans.
CalFresh
(99 posts)with new blood with new ideas. Harry did his job well.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)These fuckers should all be primaried. I'm so sick and tired of "Democratic" senators who get the vapors when they have to do something for We the People, but are all gungho for anything and everything Big Business wants.
They are purposely hog-tying the president and his agenda. Obama should have asked for their DNC blessings before he decided to get all uppity and run for President. Now he's pissed them off and they're working hard at making him a lame-duck for the next four years.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Maybe.
OTOH, it's difficult leading your party in the Senate. The main job is to get votes on particular bills. Harry Reid does seem to know how to do that pretty well.
A young guy? A young guy can't become leader of the party in the Senate. He would be replaced by another older, long-termer.
jillan
(39,451 posts)Bake
(21,977 posts)Because he swore to defend Social Security to the hilt. DUers sang his praises endlessly, post after post, what a courageous and steel-spined Democrat he was ...
My, how times change.
Bake