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Fire Harry Reid. (Original Post) Pryderi Jan 2013 OP
He needs to step down as Maj Leader bigwillq Jan 2013 #1
+++1 We NEED!!!! younger leadership! patrice Jan 2013 #5
Stop it. FarPoint Jan 2013 #2
Can you explain why? Matariki Jan 2013 #11
I realize Harry failed...and this can cripple Obama FarPoint Jan 2013 #18
I kept hearing, up to the last minute, that there were 51 votes needed to pass a stonger filibuster Matariki Jan 2013 #21
It appears there was a last minute change... FarPoint Jan 2013 #22
Thanks. Matariki Jan 2013 #34
Do you have a link with the names of all 51 votes? Being as you assert it was a fact- KittyWampus Jan 2013 #25
Ask Harry. He was the one claiming to have the votes yesterday. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2013 #28
Thank you. That's what I heard too. Matariki Jan 2013 #33
Yes, because his job is majority do-nothing-person jeff47 Jan 2013 #23
No he doesn't ... pkdu Jan 2013 #3
It won't happen, but I agree still_one Jan 2013 #4
It's all in the script RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #6
Man, I lost a lot of money on The Generals over the years... zappaman Jan 2013 #31
Replace him with...? And this person will magically control Senators' votes by...? Recursion Jan 2013 #7
That is my take on the situation. FarPoint Jan 2013 #20
Anyone, and Reid said yesterday he had enough votes. jeff47 Jan 2013 #24
How about Tom Harkin? Heck, even #2 Durbin would do a better job than Harry. jillan Jan 2013 #36
I think Sen Reid is doing what the Senators the elected him want him too. rhett o rick Jan 2013 #8
Allowing repugs 2 poison pill amendments is the same or worse than a filibuster. n/t Pryderi Jan 2013 #9
+1 Spineless n/t leftstreet Jan 2013 #10
+1 more lsewpershad Jan 2013 #13
You're assuming he wanted a different result. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #12
+1 woo me with science Jan 2013 #19
Kick woo me with science Jan 2013 #38
That bastard sold us out. Every time the GOP blocks us from now on, it's on him. [nt] Jester Messiah Jan 2013 #14
This isn't just one person. woo me with science Jan 2013 #15
It's exactly what it is. Our representatives don't represent us at all. duffyduff Jan 2013 #16
I never expect ANYTHING from Harry Reid. Then I'm not disappointed - I know in advance forestpath Jan 2013 #17
+1000 southern_belle Jan 2013 #30
Regardless of what happened, you have to admit it is great theater for the masses who watch. Selatius Jan 2013 #26
Nothing wrong CalFresh Jan 2013 #27
Yeah, it IS wrong. Harry did his job well - FOR THE REPUBLICANS. BlueCaliDem Jan 2013 #32
I don't know what happened (been working long hours). But maybe it's time for someone new.... Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #29
I've never been a Harry fan, and this just pisses me off beyond belief! jillan Jan 2013 #35
Just a few months ago DU **loved** Harry Reid Bake Jan 2013 #37
How'd that filibuster reform go for you, Harry? n/t Pryderi Feb 2013 #39

FarPoint

(12,396 posts)
18. I realize Harry failed...and this can cripple Obama
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 07:53 PM
Jan 2013

for the next 4 years....thus cripple us. Let's take a look at why he failed...it is a team effort and the other Democrats didn't want to do their job, didn't back true filibuster reform....

I think Harry had every intention to do a complete overhaul....some, a few, but enough other Democrats for whatever reason stood along the sidelines. I'm disgusted....but we don't necessarily need to remove Harry....the problem is an old, familiar one....cohesiveness.

It is the team that failed.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
21. I kept hearing, up to the last minute, that there were 51 votes needed to pass a stonger filibuster
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:08 PM
Jan 2013

Did something change? If so, you wouldn't happen to have a link about support dropping below 51 votes?

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
34. Thanks.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:17 PM
Jan 2013

If I heard the news correctly yesterday, this vote won't be public regarding how Senators voted. Which sucks. A lot.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
25. Do you have a link with the names of all 51 votes? Being as you assert it was a fact-
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:42 PM
Jan 2013

those absolute positive 51 votes should be on the record.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
23. Yes, because his job is majority do-nothing-person
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:37 PM
Jan 2013

oh wait...that's not right. What is he again? Majority leader? Well then, maybe he's supposed to lead the majority.

He claimed to have enough votes yesterday for the 41-vote fix, which would be a massive improvement.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. Replace him with...? And this person will magically control Senators' votes by...?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:49 PM
Jan 2013

Answer those and I'm in.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
24. Anyone, and Reid said yesterday he had enough votes.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:39 PM
Jan 2013

Not for Udal/Merkley, but for much better reforms than this crap.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
8. I think Sen Reid is doing what the Senators the elected him want him too.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:51 PM
Jan 2013

If he had the votes and didnt call for the vote, I think those Senators that wanted reform would speak out. If he didnt have the votes then you should vent your anger on the 8 or 9 Democrats that pledged to vote with Republicans for no reform.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
15. This isn't just one person.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 07:34 PM
Jan 2013

This is corporate kabuki, bipartisan complicity, and utterly necessary to ensure the excuse of not possibly being able to pass legislation for the people and against corporations.

Don't we know this corrupt script by heart, by now?

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
16. It's exactly what it is. Our representatives don't represent us at all.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 07:36 PM
Jan 2013

The system is so totally broken.

 

forestpath

(3,102 posts)
17. I never expect ANYTHING from Harry Reid. Then I'm not disappointed - I know in advance
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 07:37 PM
Jan 2013

that the higher the stakes, the more worthless he is.

Selatius

(20,441 posts)
26. Regardless of what happened, you have to admit it is great theater for the masses who watch.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:43 PM
Jan 2013

Now, the Democrats in the Senate can say they tried an honest faith attempt at reform without actually being forced to name the specific senators in their caucus that bolted and sided with the Republicans.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
32. Yeah, it IS wrong. Harry did his job well - FOR THE REPUBLICANS.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:07 PM
Jan 2013

These fuckers should all be primaried. I'm so sick and tired of "Democratic" senators who get the vapors when they have to do something for We the People, but are all gungho for anything and everything Big Business wants.

They are purposely hog-tying the president and his agenda. Obama should have asked for their DNC blessings before he decided to get all uppity and run for President. Now he's pissed them off and they're working hard at making him a lame-duck for the next four years.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
29. I don't know what happened (been working long hours). But maybe it's time for someone new....
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:01 PM
Jan 2013

Maybe.

OTOH, it's difficult leading your party in the Senate. The main job is to get votes on particular bills. Harry Reid does seem to know how to do that pretty well.

A young guy? A young guy can't become leader of the party in the Senate. He would be replaced by another older, long-termer.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
37. Just a few months ago DU **loved** Harry Reid
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:05 PM
Jan 2013

Because he swore to defend Social Security to the hilt. DUers sang his praises endlessly, post after post, what a courageous and steel-spined Democrat he was ...

My, how times change.

Bake

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