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cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:00 PM Jan 2013

Bill would say an abortion after rape is tampering with evidence...

A Republican lawmaker in New Mexico introduced a bill on Wednesday that would legally require victims of rape to carry their pregnancies to term in order to use the fetus as evidence for a sexual assault trial.

House Bill 206, introduced by state Rep. Cathrynn Brown (R), would charge a rape victim who ended her pregnancy with a third-degree felony for "tampering with evidence."

“Tampering with evidence shall include procuring or facilitating an abortion, or compelling or coercing another to obtain an abortion, of a fetus that is the result of criminal sexual penetration or incest with the intent to destroy evidence of the crime," the bill says.

Third-degree felonies in New Mexico carry a sentence of up to three years in prison.

Pat Davis of ProgressNow New Mexico, a progressive nonprofit opposing the bill, called it "blatantly unconstitutional" on Thursday.

“The bill turns victims of rape and incest into felons and forces them to become incubators of evidence for the state,” he said. “According to Republican philosophy, victims who are ‘legitimately raped’ will now have to carry the fetus to term in order to prove their case.“

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/24/new-mexico-abortion-bill_n_2541894.html

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Bill would say an abortion after rape is tampering with evidence... (Original Post) cynatnite Jan 2013 OP
I'd like to propose a bill that says "being a Republican is evidence of insanity". Thanks. Scuba Jan 2013 #1
Hmmm how did I know SirRevolutionary Jan 2013 #2
This would also give rapists a new defense that they could use ck4829 Jan 2013 #3
they are sooooo freaked out about white people becoming a minority leftyohiolib Jan 2013 #4
It kind of is, but ... surrealAmerican Jan 2013 #5
Yeah, but there, the bullet is evidence. RC Jan 2013 #6
Article was updated: LeftInTX Jan 2013 #7
this is what comes from refusing to acknowledge basic science BainsBane Jan 2013 #8
Ironic. (Abortion would be the only way to preserve the evidence!) cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #9
Forced birth... ljm2002 Jan 2013 #10
Patently unconstitutional on its face. Bake Jan 2013 #11

surrealAmerican

(11,361 posts)
5. It kind of is, but ...
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:00 PM
Jan 2013

... no more so than removing a bullet from someone who's been shot. Crime victims' health and well being is simply more important than preserving evidence.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
6. Yeah, but there, the bullet is evidence.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 03:25 PM
Jan 2013

The same as with aborting after a rape. Both need to look at the evidence in a timely manner. So abort and take a DNA sample of the fetus already.

LeftInTX

(25,341 posts)
7. Article was updated:
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:02 PM
Jan 2013
UPDATE: 12:25 p.m. -- Brown said in a statement Thursday that she introduced the bill with the goal of punishing the person who commits incest or rape and then procures or facilitates an abortion to destroy the evidence of the crime.

“New Mexico needs to strengthen its laws to deter sex offenders,” said Brown. “By adding this law in New Mexico, we can help to protect women across our state.”


I have no idea how often a rapist procures or facilitates an abortion. This is a bad bill. If she carries a child to term, the rapist's defense is simply, "She carried the child to term, she wanted to get pregnant."

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
8. this is what comes from refusing to acknowledge basic science
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:11 PM
Jan 2013

DNA testing can be done on an embryo at any stage.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
9. Ironic. (Abortion would be the only way to preserve the evidence!)
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:15 PM
Jan 2013

Since he is concerned about changing evidence he needs to blame God because these fetuses are all about change.

The only way to preserve the evidence is to have an abortion as soon after the impregnation as possible and store everything removed in a freezer.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
10. Forced birth...
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:41 PM
Jan 2013

...they are becoming more and more blatant as to what their real agenda is.

Women as vessels / vassals. That's what they want. The fact that it is a female lawmaker just tears me up. She is basically proposing to deny human rights to her own gender.

I can't even say what my first thought was when I read this. Let's just say my second thought, which was, I would dearly, dearly love to walk right up to this woman and smack her hard right across her face. And then do the same thing with my other hand.

Not that it would be useful. It would be horribly counter productive. Also illegal. It's not something I would actually do. But sometimes it's nice to daydream.

On edit: no I don't believe her backpedaling statement even a little bit.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
11. Patently unconstitutional on its face.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:18 PM
Jan 2013

Makes abortion a felony. Abortion is still legal in this country.

FAIL!

Bake

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