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cali

(114,904 posts)
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:58 PM Jan 2013

NM Legislator: Charge women who have abortions resulting from rape with tampering with evidence

A New Mexico Lawmaker Wants To Criminalize Post-Rape Abortions

A Republican legislator in New Mexico is seeking to force pregnant rape victims to carry the pregnancy to term, claiming the fetus could be used as "evidence" at trial.

Rep. Cathrynn Brown's bill would charge a rape victim who sought an abortion with a third-degree felony for "tampering with evidence," The Huffington Post reported Wednesday.


"Tampering with evidence consists of destroying, changing, hiding, placing or fabricating any physical evidence with intent to prevent the apprehension, prosecution or conviction of any person or to throw suspicion of the commission of a crime upon another," House Bill 206 reads.

"Tampering with evidence shall include procuring or facilitating an abortion, or compelling or coercing another to obtain an abortion, of a fetus that is the result of criminal sexual penetration or incest with the intent to destroy evidence of the crime," it adds.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/new-mexico-post-rape-abortion-bill-2013-1#ixzz2IufZpI4r

Fucking piece of shit. I wish her the very worst in all her endeavors and in her miserable life.

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NM Legislator: Charge women who have abortions resulting from rape with tampering with evidence (Original Post) cali Jan 2013 OP
Just when you think these assholes can't stoop any lower...they surprise you...knr joeybee12 Jan 2013 #1
They've officially stooped past the lowest point on earth at this point. Initech Jan 2013 #9
So low they'd get vertigo in a sewer! nt joeybee12 Jan 2013 #10
They'll keep on digging even deeper. sakabatou Jan 2013 #18
Wouldn't this also free the rapists if their victims had an abortion? ck4829 Jan 2013 #2
What is wrong with this woman? hlthe2b Jan 2013 #3
She should be forced to take care of all the "evidence" she values so highly. appleannie1 Jan 2013 #4
What an outrage. malthaussen Jan 2013 #5
My granduncle once told me .. ( he is still around) srican69 Jan 2013 #6
well in fact even after abortion the evidence can be used Fresh_Start Jan 2013 #7
Rec'd in hope that this will get more exposure. PotatoChip Jan 2013 #8
Typical Republican POS and a coward. Ikonoklast Jan 2013 #15
this exemplifies a total lack of compassion for the victim watch the sky Jan 2013 #11
Hideous, especially coming from a woman n/t Oilwellian Jan 2013 #12
"Evidence"?! KamaAina Jan 2013 #13
She is is one sick individual. Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #14
+100 Liberal_in_LA Jan 2013 #16
The Stupid is strong ... GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #17

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
2. Wouldn't this also free the rapists if their victims had an abortion?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:03 PM
Jan 2013

Rapist: "Well Judge, Cathrynn Brown passed this law saying that abortion is evidence tampering and my ALLEGED victim did get an abortion after I ALLEGEDLY raped her. Sooo, what are we going to do about that?"

If getting an abortion is evidence tampering, every person accused, on trial, or convicted of rape would jump at this.

malthaussen

(17,199 posts)
5. What an outrage.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:29 PM
Jan 2013

I suppose, by her "logic," if I am the victim of a gunshot wound and have the damage treated, I'm tampering with the evidence and guilty of a felony.

These people make me furious. It is so obvious that they will go to any extent to victimize women, especially women who are raped. Even on it's own "merits" (which really don't exist), this proposition makes no sense. Since when is a fetus evidence of rape? If a woman is raped and doesn't become pregnant, does that mean she wasn't raped? But wait, I thought if a woman was "legitimately" raped, she could "shut down" the pregnancy process, ergo if she is pregnant, she wasn't raped, and if she isn't pregnant, she wasn't raped. Yeah, I guess that really is the GOP message: there is no such thing as rape.

-- Mal

srican69

(1,426 posts)
6. My granduncle once told me .. ( he is still around)
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:34 PM
Jan 2013

"you cannot design a system to be foolproof - because fools are ingenious"

I think you can take comfort in the fact that given that our democratic system is not in ANYWAY designed to be fool proof, such outcomes are always in the realm of possibility.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
7. well in fact even after abortion the evidence can be used
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:50 PM
Jan 2013

DNA analysis of the tissue is still possible.
How about charging men who shower after rape with tampering with evidence?
That evidence goes down the drain?

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
8. Rec'd in hope that this will get more exposure.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:55 PM
Jan 2013

Though the story is horrifying. Wtf is the matter with this legislator?

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
15. Typical Republican POS and a coward.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:30 PM
Jan 2013
Cathrynn Brown refused to tell citizens where she stands on any of the issues addressed in the 2012 Political Courage Test, despite repeated requests from Vote Smart, national media, and prominent political leaders.



From: http://votesmart.org/candidate/110625/cathrynn-brown


The NRA loves her, though.

watch the sky

(129 posts)
11. this exemplifies a total lack of compassion for the victim
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:11 PM
Jan 2013

so much for the GOP being "tough on crime". Cheap ploy to score a few cheap political points, one of the worst ideas I do believe I've ever heard.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
13. "Evidence"?!
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 03:50 PM
Jan 2013

So the fetus isn't a person, but "evidence"??!!

A new low for the anti's. And the sponsor is a woman. For shame!

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
14. She is is one sick individual.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 03:56 PM
Jan 2013

I'd love to think she's going to be taken to task by her constituents, but I'm betting she represents a wingnut district that elected her for her whack-a-doodle views.

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