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. . . my words.
John Kerry Sympathizes With Anti-War Protester Disrupting His Confirmation Hearing:
When I first came to Washington and testified, I obviously was testifying as part a group of people who came here to have their voices heard, and that is, above all, what this place is about.
watch:
CherokeeDem
(3,709 posts)he handled the interruption with grace, giving the protester the dignity of her convictions and used it to underscore the points he was making in his remarks. I know he was at the end of his statement but to close out giving credence to the protestor's words was brilliant. I have no doubts this man will equal Hillary Clinton as SOS.
Ian David
(69,059 posts)babylonsister
(171,066 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)bigtree
(85,996 posts). . . still have his bumper sticker on the back window of my pick-up
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Signed by John Lewis when I marched with him protesting voter suppression in Columbus, OH.
RKP5637
(67,109 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)I can't remember, did he vote for the Iraq war?
CranialRectaLoopback
(123 posts)He cashed in his convictions years ago and he also gave us Joe Lieberman.
We can only hope he finds is inner anti-war voice.
adieu
(1,009 posts)He gave us John Edwards.
CranialRectaLoopback
(123 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)anyone who fell for that stinkin liar George and his criminal friends is either;
1. not that swift
2. or had some personal interests to go ahead with a needless war.
They should never be fully forgiven.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)I've heard it's a strong bond.
AND I AM A KERRY FAN! Those "Swift-Boaters" were disgusting liars. Don't even get me started on those mocking purple Band-aids.
Bandit
(21,475 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)that's why I didn't support her during the primaries for one minute.
whether she's 1. not that swift or there is an 2. inside info game going on that only a few can participate in. Either one is bad news and I doubt it's #1.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)to what Bush was saying. The fact is that many were being told the SAME lies from many different people. Kerry even spoke once of having spoken to leaders in the UK - and they were saying the same things.
Kerry was different than most others who voted yes, he voted yes to give the leverage needed to get good inspections. He spoke out before the war started saying not to rush to war. He also spoke against the war at a point that 80% of the population was for it (April 2003).
Whisp
(24,096 posts)George Senior and the Gulf War handed the baton over to Clinton who made Iraq suffer with sanctions for his two full terms, and whtever else we probably don't know, then it was handed again to George Junior to finish off the grand theft. How many years span is that that the American administration, with only 2 names in all those years, held steadfast to making Iraq as weak as possible.
I do not accept this is all coincidental and that there weren't any understandings and deals made between these administrations. And people wonder why I have this 'unreasonable' dislike of the Clintons, and the Bushes. That's it, the way the sentence read: The Clinton and the Bushes. They are and were partners in misdeeds.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)...but most of you never could.
CranialRectaLoopback
(123 posts)CranialRectaLoopback
(123 posts)Are to whom you refer, I presume you mean Republicans or Teabaggers. Regardless, I am from the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party so having a "D" next to his name doesn't give Kerry a pass. But he'll be confirmed and I guess we will see whether we are speaking with countries like Iran when his term is up or whether we are droning them.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)pacalo
(24,721 posts)would have said. Diplomacy rocks.
JBoy
(8,021 posts)Unlike the many grandstanding, know-nothing republicans there.
judesedit
(4,438 posts)They destroyed this country. Virginia is planning on stealing all future elections for republicant's. Unless we do away with the electoral college or they scare away their current constituents so they vote dem instead of repug, their tactic will work. Come on, people. Give a shit about this country and each of our votes.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)EastKYLiberal
(429 posts)Pacifism is great, but sometimes further action is required.
There's a big difference between our actions in Iraq under Bush and our actions in Libya under Obama, just as there will be a big difference between how a Neocon administration would handle Iran versus how President Obama will handle Iran.
I find it intellectually dishonest to lump all military action and politicians that support different forms of it into the same category.
Sen. Kerry represents my view on foreign policy in knowing that absolutism in regards to foreign policy doesn't work in a complicated world.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)How does that work with your thesis? How about Obama's escalation of the fiasco in Afghanistan? Does that represent "further action"?
blm
(113,063 posts)when they reported back that there was no need to use military force in Iraq.
LA Times:
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"The United States should never go to war because it wants to; the United States should go to war because we have to," Kerry said at Georgetown University. "And we don't have to until we have exhausted the remedies available, built legitimacy and earned the consent of the American people, absent, of course, an imminent threat requiring urgent action."
Kerry's remarks come as polls show most Americans would prefer that the inspections continue before an attack is launched on Iraq. The surveys also show the public is reluctant to see force used at all without broad allied support.
The speech also marks another shift in emphasis for Kerry on Iraq. Last year, he accused Bush of ignoring international opinion in the administration's initial moves toward a confrontation with Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. But after Bush pledged to work through the U.N., Kerry voted for the congressional resolution in October that authorized the president to use force against Iraq.
Kerry now has moved closer to the war's critics, who maintain Bush is once again risking dangerous divisions with allies in repeatedly raising the prospect of invading Iraq, even without U.N. approval. Indeed, the heart of Kerry's speech was a charge that, across the board, Bush has pursued a "belligerent and myopic unilateralism" that has isolated the United States and increased threats to American security.
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Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Or, did he become "against it" after it was politically correct to be against it.
kinda like all the politicians who became "anti-war" after we lost in Vietnam.
BTW there were 23 senators who voted against the IWR.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"BTW there were 23 senators who voted against the IWR. "
Kerry was one of the most vocal in opposition to Bush's illegal invasion before it happened and through the 2004 Presidential election. Not only did every Senator vote for a version of the IWR, they all believed the intelligence on WMD, which is why there were several versions of the bill.
Still, it's interesting that you point out that 23 Senators voted against it. Yet, in 2006, when Kerry and Feingold sponsored a bill to withdraw from Iraq, it got only 14 votes.
Regardless, you'll keep using RW talking point ("He was for it before he was against it?" , and Kerry's statements in opposition will still be a matter of record.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Gosh, all the media were dupes of the right wing? Right?
Did you buy the "intelligence" that cost hundreds of thousands of lives?
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Did you buy the "intelligence" that cost hundreds of thousands of lives?
...vote to give Bush the authority to lie. As much as you want to believe that Bush isn't responsible for misleading the country, it's a fact.
Bush lied and ignored the parameters of the IWR, which is why it's consider an illegal war.
Are you unaware of Bush's lie?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)"Yes, I was. Why wasn't Kerry and the rest?"
...the lie I'm refering to was after the vote, the bullshit letter submitted to Congress as justification.
Were you aware of that?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)"Sure. Why wasn't Kerry "aware" of the lies that led to the IWR vote?"
...he and the other Senators aren't you? I mean, they have to act on what they're presented.
Again, you're lauding 23 Senators for voting against one version of the IWR when all of them, including Kerry, voted for other versions.
Why did they vote for those other versions? Is it because they're not as smart and all-knowing as you?
Now, back to reality. Bush lied, and Bush acted. He is responsible for pulling the trigger.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)One doesn't have to be "all knowing" to realize that invading another country and killing thousands of its people is a bad idea.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"One doesn't have to be 'all knowing' to realize that invading another country and killing thousands of its people is a bad idea. "
...are you having trouble realizing that Bush is responsible for his actions?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)That's only in your imagination.
blm
(113,063 posts)who were placed in Iraq through the IWR and Kerry stayed sided with weapon inspectors who were reporting that use of military force was NOT needed.
But, I'm sure that fact won't deter you from spreading the spin that Rove preferred.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Or, is it the 1984 version the truth "war is peace"?
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)I almost forgot what that sounded like.
blm
(113,063 posts)inspections would determine the next step. When weapon inspectors reported back that there was no need to use military force to disarm Iraq, Kerry sided with the weapon inspectors and against Bush. NONE of the other Dem yes votes sided with Kerry then, did they? But, you treat them all the same, as if ANY No vote would have stopped Bush invading Iraq. Guess you forget Bush already HAD planned to use the 1991 UN resolution to invade, and he had plenty of Yes support from GOP and Dem hawks - but, hey, TyL, you keep that target on Kerry since it makes you feel better about yourself.
nick of time
(651 posts)He's walked the walk and talked the talk.
He will make an execellent SoS.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)nick of time
(651 posts)and knows the horrors of war, which is why he'll do everything in his power to avoid armed conflict.
I am so proud of my fellow Vietnam Vet.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)Between that and Hillary yesterday, I am quite proud to call myself a Democrat.
Secretary Clinton was spectacular, and Kerry's response their was first class.
Cha
(297,275 posts)him.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)politicasista
(14,128 posts)He handled that very well.
Saw the LOD Rewrite and Rachel's mini-protest pic segment. Very excellent done. Senator/SOS to-be Kerry will be excellent.