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Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:32 PM Jan 2013

Kerry to Code Pink Protester Interrupting Confirmation Hearing: Hey, I've Been There (Vid)

. . . my words.




John Kerry Sympathizes With Anti-War Protester Disrupting His Confirmation Hearing:

“When I first came to Washington and testified, I obviously was testifying as part a group of people who came here to have their voices heard, and that is, above all, what this place is about.”



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Kerry to Code Pink Protester Interrupting Confirmation Hearing: Hey, I've Been There (Vid) (Original Post) bigtree Jan 2013 OP
I am so proud of John Kerry right now... CherokeeDem Jan 2013 #1
Me, too. But I bet Randi Rhodes spins it into something awful. n/t Ian David Jan 2013 #28
Great response to the protester; props to Senator Kerry! nt babylonsister Jan 2013 #2
My fellow Vietnam Veteran is a class act madokie Jan 2013 #3
one of the best bigtree Jan 2013 #5
I still have my 3' x 4' Kerry placard from '04 pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #7
K&R !!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #4
he handled that very well. he appears to be a good man. Whisp Jan 2013 #6
Yes. glowing Jan 2013 #8
Of course he did. CranialRectaLoopback Jan 2013 #9
He didn't give us Lieberman adieu Jan 2013 #12
Correct. I misspoke on that CranialRectaLoopback Jan 2013 #47
I'll have to walk that good man thing back a bit. Whisp Jan 2013 #13
Or Skull and Bones. ;-) WinkyDink Jan 2013 #17
You do know President Clinton was saying the same thing as the Bush* Cabal at the time? Bandit Jan 2013 #18
o yeah, I know that Whisp Jan 2013 #21
Bandit pointed out that Bill Clinton was saying very similar things karynnj Jan 2013 #36
if you consider this: Whisp Jan 2013 #40
You can't even get basic facts straight. Ikonoklast Jan 2013 #26
I did misspeak re: Lieberman. CranialRectaLoopback Jan 2013 #45
I'm not sure who the "you people" CranialRectaLoopback Jan 2013 #50
Enjoy your stay n/t. Ikonoklast Jan 2013 #55
He handled that with class. And his remarks well represented what his soon-to-be boss pacalo Jan 2013 #10
A total pro. JBoy Jan 2013 #11
Too bad the election was stolen from him.He would've been a great president.Th GOP should be ashamed judesedit Jan 2013 #14
+1 freshwest Jan 2013 #19
He used to be anti-war..then he became a politician. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2013 #15
He's not pro-war, but he understands that there are no absolutes in foreign policy... EastKYLiberal Jan 2013 #23
Uh..Kerry supported Bush's war in Iraq. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2013 #25
Kerry supported IWR to get UN weapon inspections, and sided WITH the weapon inspectors against Bush blm Jan 2013 #29
He was for it before he was against it? Is that the argument? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2013 #31
Pathetic ProSense Jan 2013 #32
So, he didn't vote for it? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2013 #33
No, he didn't ProSense Jan 2013 #34
Yes, I was. Why wasn't Kerry and the rest? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2013 #37
Clearly, you aren't because ProSense Jan 2013 #38
Sure. Why wasn't Kerry "aware" of the lies that led to the IWR vote? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2013 #41
Because ProSense Jan 2013 #42
So, were you convinced by Bush at the time? Did you support the votes? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2013 #43
So why then ProSense Jan 2013 #44
And, Kerry is responsible for supporting Bush's actions. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2013 #46
Kerry didn't support Bush's actions. ProSense Jan 2013 #48
If you bothered to read with accuracy as your goal, you'd know he sided with weapon inspectors blm Jan 2013 #35
Why did he vote for a war that he didn't believe was necessary? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2013 #39
Thank You for Swiftboating John Kerry. Blue Idaho Jan 2013 #51
So you DIDN'T read, as usual. He voted for IWR after UN cooperation was promised and weapon blm Jan 2013 #54
John Kerry is such a classy man. nick of time Jan 2013 #16
Perfect man for the job. So glad he'll be there to make a difference. freshwest Jan 2013 #20
He's actually been in combat nick of time Jan 2013 #22
I listened to him speak when I traveled to D.C. as part of our anti-war mobilization. freshwest Jan 2013 #24
THAT was a grand-slam homerun right there Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #27
+1 BainsBane Jan 2013 #30
Yes, President Obama chooses good people to work with Cha Jan 2013 #53
excellent. nt seabeyond Jan 2013 #49
Classy man, classy response. Surya Gayatri Jan 2013 #52
Kick politicasista Jan 2013 #56

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
1. I am so proud of John Kerry right now...
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:36 PM
Jan 2013

he handled the interruption with grace, giving the protester the dignity of her convictions and used it to underscore the points he was making in his remarks. I know he was at the end of his statement but to close out giving credence to the protestor's words was brilliant. I have no doubts this man will equal Hillary Clinton as SOS.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
7. I still have my 3' x 4' Kerry placard from '04
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:54 PM
Jan 2013

Signed by John Lewis when I marched with him protesting voter suppression in Columbus, OH.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
6. he handled that very well. he appears to be a good man.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:52 PM
Jan 2013

I can't remember, did he vote for the Iraq war?

 
9. Of course he did.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:27 PM
Jan 2013

He cashed in his convictions years ago and he also gave us Joe Lieberman.

We can only hope he finds is inner anti-war voice.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
13. I'll have to walk that good man thing back a bit.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:00 PM
Jan 2013

anyone who fell for that stinkin liar George and his criminal friends is either;

1. not that swift
2. or had some personal interests to go ahead with a needless war.

They should never be fully forgiven.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
17. Or Skull and Bones. ;-)
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:27 PM
Jan 2013

I've heard it's a strong bond.

AND I AM A KERRY FAN! Those "Swift-Boaters" were disgusting liars. Don't even get me started on those mocking purple Band-aids.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
18. You do know President Clinton was saying the same thing as the Bush* Cabal at the time?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:45 PM
Jan 2013
I believe it was a bad/wrong vote but I fully understand why it happened..
 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
21. o yeah, I know that
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:51 PM
Jan 2013

that's why I didn't support her during the primaries for one minute.

whether she's 1. not that swift or there is an 2. inside info game going on that only a few can participate in. Either one is bad news and I doubt it's #1.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
36. Bandit pointed out that Bill Clinton was saying very similar things
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:45 PM
Jan 2013

to what Bush was saying. The fact is that many were being told the SAME lies from many different people. Kerry even spoke once of having spoken to leaders in the UK - and they were saying the same things.

Kerry was different than most others who voted yes, he voted yes to give the leverage needed to get good inspections. He spoke out before the war started saying not to rush to war. He also spoke against the war at a point that 80% of the population was for it (April 2003).

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
40. if you consider this:
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:52 PM
Jan 2013

George Senior and the Gulf War handed the baton over to Clinton who made Iraq suffer with sanctions for his two full terms, and whtever else we probably don't know, then it was handed again to George Junior to finish off the grand theft. How many years span is that that the American administration, with only 2 names in all those years, held steadfast to making Iraq as weak as possible.

I do not accept this is all coincidental and that there weren't any understandings and deals made between these administrations. And people wonder why I have this 'unreasonable' dislike of the Clintons, and the Bushes. That's it, the way the sentence read: The Clinton and the Bushes. They are and were partners in misdeeds.

 
50. I'm not sure who the "you people"
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:30 PM
Jan 2013

Are to whom you refer, I presume you mean Republicans or Teabaggers. Regardless, I am from the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party so having a "D" next to his name doesn't give Kerry a pass. But he'll be confirmed and I guess we will see whether we are speaking with countries like Iran when his term is up or whether we are droning them.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
10. He handled that with class. And his remarks well represented what his soon-to-be boss
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:32 PM
Jan 2013

would have said. Diplomacy rocks.



judesedit

(4,438 posts)
14. Too bad the election was stolen from him.He would've been a great president.Th GOP should be ashamed
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:20 PM
Jan 2013

They destroyed this country. Virginia is planning on stealing all future elections for republicant's. Unless we do away with the electoral college or they scare away their current constituents so they vote dem instead of repug, their tactic will work. Come on, people. Give a shit about this country and each of our votes.

 

EastKYLiberal

(429 posts)
23. He's not pro-war, but he understands that there are no absolutes in foreign policy...
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:58 PM
Jan 2013

Pacifism is great, but sometimes further action is required.

There's a big difference between our actions in Iraq under Bush and our actions in Libya under Obama, just as there will be a big difference between how a Neocon administration would handle Iran versus how President Obama will handle Iran.

I find it intellectually dishonest to lump all military action and politicians that support different forms of it into the same category.

Sen. Kerry represents my view on foreign policy in knowing that absolutism in regards to foreign policy doesn't work in a complicated world.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
25. Uh..Kerry supported Bush's war in Iraq.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 03:04 PM
Jan 2013

How does that work with your thesis? How about Obama's escalation of the fiasco in Afghanistan? Does that represent "further action"?

blm

(113,063 posts)
29. Kerry supported IWR to get UN weapon inspections, and sided WITH the weapon inspectors against Bush
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 03:54 PM
Jan 2013

when they reported back that there was no need to use military force in Iraq.

LA Times:
>>>>

"The United States should never go to war because it wants to; the United States should go to war because we have to," Kerry said at Georgetown University. "And we don't have to until we have exhausted the remedies available, built legitimacy and earned the consent of the American people, absent, of course, an imminent threat requiring urgent action."

Kerry's remarks come as polls show most Americans would prefer that the inspections continue before an attack is launched on Iraq. The surveys also show the public is reluctant to see force used at all without broad allied support.

The speech also marks another shift in emphasis for Kerry on Iraq. Last year, he accused Bush of ignoring international opinion in the administration's initial moves toward a confrontation with Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. But after Bush pledged to work through the U.N., Kerry voted for the congressional resolution in October that authorized the president to use force against Iraq.

Kerry now has moved closer to the war's critics, who maintain Bush is once again risking dangerous divisions with allies in repeatedly raising the prospect of invading Iraq, even without U.N. approval. Indeed, the heart of Kerry's speech was a charge that, across the board, Bush has pursued a "belligerent and myopic unilateralism" that has isolated the United States and increased threats to American security.
>>>>

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
31. He was for it before he was against it? Is that the argument?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:21 PM
Jan 2013

Or, did he become "against it" after it was politically correct to be against it.

kinda like all the politicians who became "anti-war" after we lost in Vietnam.

BTW there were 23 senators who voted against the IWR.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
32. Pathetic
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:31 PM
Jan 2013

"BTW there were 23 senators who voted against the IWR. "

Kerry was one of the most vocal in opposition to Bush's illegal invasion before it happened and through the 2004 Presidential election. Not only did every Senator vote for a version of the IWR, they all believed the intelligence on WMD, which is why there were several versions of the bill.

Still, it's interesting that you point out that 23 Senators voted against it. Yet, in 2006, when Kerry and Feingold sponsored a bill to withdraw from Iraq, it got only 14 votes.

Regardless, you'll keep using RW talking point ("He was for it before he was against it?&quot , and Kerry's statements in opposition will still be a matter of record.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
33. So, he didn't vote for it?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:36 PM
Jan 2013

Gosh, all the media were dupes of the right wing? Right?

Did you buy the "intelligence" that cost hundreds of thousands of lives?

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
34. No, he didn't
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:44 PM
Jan 2013
Gosh, all the media were dupes of the right wing? Right?

Did you buy the "intelligence" that cost hundreds of thousands of lives?

...vote to give Bush the authority to lie. As much as you want to believe that Bush isn't responsible for misleading the country, it's a fact.

Bush lied and ignored the parameters of the IWR, which is why it's consider an illegal war.

Are you unaware of Bush's lie?

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
38. Clearly, you aren't because
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:51 PM
Jan 2013

"Yes, I was. Why wasn't Kerry and the rest?"

...the lie I'm refering to was after the vote, the bullshit letter submitted to Congress as justification.

Were you aware of that?

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
42. Because
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:58 PM
Jan 2013

"Sure. Why wasn't Kerry "aware" of the lies that led to the IWR vote?"

...he and the other Senators aren't you? I mean, they have to act on what they're presented.

Again, you're lauding 23 Senators for voting against one version of the IWR when all of them, including Kerry, voted for other versions.

Why did they vote for those other versions? Is it because they're not as smart and all-knowing as you?

Now, back to reality. Bush lied, and Bush acted. He is responsible for pulling the trigger.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
43. So, were you convinced by Bush at the time? Did you support the votes?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:02 PM
Jan 2013

One doesn't have to be "all knowing" to realize that invading another country and killing thousands of its people is a bad idea.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
44. So why then
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:05 PM
Jan 2013

"One doesn't have to be 'all knowing' to realize that invading another country and killing thousands of its people is a bad idea. "

...are you having trouble realizing that Bush is responsible for his actions?

blm

(113,063 posts)
35. If you bothered to read with accuracy as your goal, you'd know he sided with weapon inspectors
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:44 PM
Jan 2013

who were placed in Iraq through the IWR and Kerry stayed sided with weapon inspectors who were reporting that use of military force was NOT needed.

But, I'm sure that fact won't deter you from spreading the spin that Rove preferred.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
39. Why did he vote for a war that he didn't believe was necessary?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:51 PM
Jan 2013

Or, is it the 1984 version the truth "war is peace"?

blm

(113,063 posts)
54. So you DIDN'T read, as usual. He voted for IWR after UN cooperation was promised and weapon
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:51 PM
Jan 2013

inspections would determine the next step. When weapon inspectors reported back that there was no need to use military force to disarm Iraq, Kerry sided with the weapon inspectors and against Bush. NONE of the other Dem yes votes sided with Kerry then, did they? But, you treat them all the same, as if ANY No vote would have stopped Bush invading Iraq. Guess you forget Bush already HAD planned to use the 1991 UN resolution to invade, and he had plenty of Yes support from GOP and Dem hawks - but, hey, TyL, you keep that target on Kerry since it makes you feel better about yourself.

 

nick of time

(651 posts)
16. John Kerry is such a classy man.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:24 PM
Jan 2013

He's walked the walk and talked the talk.
He will make an execellent SoS.

 

nick of time

(651 posts)
22. He's actually been in combat
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:54 PM
Jan 2013

and knows the horrors of war, which is why he'll do everything in his power to avoid armed conflict.
I am so proud of my fellow Vietnam Vet.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
24. I listened to him speak when I traveled to D.C. as part of our anti-war mobilization.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 03:04 PM
Jan 2013
There was no equivocation in him. Years later, I watched as he conducted the Iran/Contra hearings. He is an honest and honorable man, and we need more like him, IMO.




 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
27. THAT was a grand-slam homerun right there
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 03:32 PM
Jan 2013

Between that and Hillary yesterday, I am quite proud to call myself a Democrat.

politicasista

(14,128 posts)
56. Kick
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 09:15 PM
Jan 2013

He handled that very well.

Saw the LOD Rewrite and Rachel's mini-protest pic segment. Very excellent done. Senator/SOS to-be Kerry will be excellent.

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