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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:48 AM Jan 2013

It is a shame that history will remember John McCain as a bitter, old, vindictive man who

could not get over his loss to Barack Obama in 2008. His actions will be documented because he is the orchestrator and the pursuer of the witch hunt against Hillary Clinton and Susan Rice. Few will even want to know about his military service.

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It is a shame that history will remember John McCain as a bitter, old, vindictive man who (Original Post) mfcorey1 Jan 2013 OP
History won't even remember McSame. Indydem Jan 2013 #1
Why is it a shame? tularetom Jan 2013 #2
I was not offering a pity party for him. It was just a thought. No love here for John McCain. mfcorey1 Jan 2013 #5
Indeed. Some people don't know when to hang it up. riqster Jan 2013 #3
Generally it's Only the Winners of the Presidential Election Who Get Remembered dballance Jan 2013 #4
I don't think it a shame at all karynnj Jan 2013 #6
I'll remember him for his role in the Keating 5. Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #7
+1000 n/t zappaman Jan 2013 #20
Definitely not a shame BumRushDaShow Jan 2013 #8
"A shame"? Hardly. chelsea0011 Jan 2013 #9
the man's been a soulless opportunist his entire life. KG Jan 2013 #10
BINGO! HangOnKids Jan 2013 #21
He Looked Like A Talking Corpse At Those Hearings. Paladin Jan 2013 #11
Not to me. The ratfucker deserves it kysrsoze Jan 2013 #12
He lies in a bed of his own making. He is irrelevant, now. A footnote. Stinky The Clown Jan 2013 #13
It's not a shame. It's thye way it should be. nt TeamPooka Jan 2013 #14
People make their own beds. He is what he is. That is how history will look at him. What appleannie1 Jan 2013 #15
No, it's not. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2013 #16
McCain's history will be limited to his pick of Palin for his running mate Mike Daniels Jan 2013 #17
I'll remember him for vouching for Keating RainDog Jan 2013 #18
why is it a shame to view this asshole as he truly is? frylock Jan 2013 #19

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
2. Why is it a shame?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:56 AM
Jan 2013

It isn't like anybody is twisting his arm and telling him to act like a senile old fool. He's done this to himself because he is still pissed off that he was put up as a sacrificial lamb in an election his party knew he was going to lose.

And I doubt if he wants a lot of people to know the truth about his military service either.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
3. Indeed. Some people don't know when to hang it up.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:58 AM
Jan 2013

For every wise man like Ike who chose to retire at the peak of his career, there's a deluded fool like McCain, who sticks around so long he becomes a parody of himself.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
4. Generally it's Only the Winners of the Presidential Election Who Get Remembered
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:59 AM
Jan 2013

If McShame is trying to find a way to make a legacy for himself he's doing a poor job. Of course, he might be remembered for unleashing Sarah Palin on us all. She has certainly eclipsed him in notoriety.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
6. I don't think it a shame at all
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:02 AM
Jan 2013

He has a complex story. Even his military service story is not a typical "hero" story of someone who saved others through intelligent, brave, selfless action. It is far more complex - refusing to get early release due to who his father was after he was captured ending his mediocre military career.

That refusal came at a cost he could not have known when he made it, and it was apparently based on his view of what "honor" is. In the long run, his connections and this created the McCain mystique that helped him to become Congressman and Senator.

His legislative career was also patchy. He did not live up to standards that should have been a MINIMUM of what was accepted. He was one of the Keating 5. After being caught, he spoke of his failure and was - because of who he was - allowed to stay and he then took up what became McCain/Feingold to make amends. This led some to credit him more than they did people who never were caught in something like Keating as a leader on trying to prevent money having too much power.

Throughout his career, there are both elements. There are the good things he has done - the reasonable McCain. However, he then abandons them. Throughout, there is - just below the media's loved genial surface of McCain, a very angry men. The strange thing is that some of the biggest descriptions were in his own book.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
7. I'll remember him for his role in the Keating 5.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:04 AM
Jan 2013

He should have been thrown out of Congress for that bit of corruption. But he managed to avoid that and play a leading role in failed Republican politics for a few more decades.

BumRushDaShow

(129,012 posts)
8. Definitely not a shame
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:04 AM
Jan 2013

Instead of carrying out a craven witch hunt against the President, slashing and burning his way through the executive branch staff to do so, he should have spent quality time revising and reintroducing his signature Campaign Finance reform law that was thrown out with the Citizen's United decision.

Instead, he decided to go on a rampage of revenge.

He slept with dogs, woke up with fleas, and made his own dirty bed.

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
9. "A shame"? Hardly.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:25 AM
Jan 2013

Just because he loves to be on the Sunday shows doesn't mean he has something to say.

kysrsoze

(6,021 posts)
12. Not to me. The ratfucker deserves it
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:16 AM
Jan 2013

The only thin he's ever excelled at is promoting himself and attacking others, rather than concentrating on the good of the country.

Stinky The Clown

(67,799 posts)
13. He lies in a bed of his own making. He is irrelevant, now. A footnote.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:30 PM
Jan 2013

His epitaph will be "What could have been if he would have been."

He is a sad figure.

appleannie1

(5,067 posts)
15. People make their own beds. He is what he is. That is how history will look at him. What
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:35 PM
Jan 2013

little it remembers him at all.

Mike Daniels

(5,842 posts)
17. McCain's history will be limited to his pick of Palin for his running mate
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:50 PM
Jan 2013

When all is said and done, what else has he done of significance or note in his political career?

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
18. I'll remember him for vouching for Keating
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:56 PM
Jan 2013

who was behind a big portion of the Savings and Loan failures that were the result of deregulation. Neil Bush also made out like a thief (oh yeah, he is a thief) by getting taxpayers to bail him out in the S&L failures that, again, were the result of Ronnie Raygun's bullshit on behalf of speculators - who, let me note again - were bailed out by taxpayers.

So, that's what I'll remember about McCain - that's he's always been on the side of the moneyed few at the expense of the rest of America.

He's never given a shit about the middle class.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
19. why is it a shame to view this asshole as he truly is?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:45 PM
Jan 2013

everything else we've been conditioned to believe about this jackass is a lie.

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