Is it time, considering todays announcement on women in combat, that all women at the age of 18

[Purveyor]

register for the 'selective service' as their male counterparts are required to do?

If not, why not?

Just wondering...

[DURHAM D]

1. Pass the ERA and then ask your question again.

[Leslie Valley]

5. It's actually the other way around

One of the clubs the right wing used against the ERA was that it could subject women to the draft

[DURHAM D]

11. That is my entire point. It is the reason why the ERA was defeated.

Pass it now and after that you can have a conversation about requiring women to register for the non-existent draft. Until that happens this notion is a big yawn.

[Leslie Valley]

17. Or remove the objection and make the amendment

Easier to pass.

[DURHAM D]

21. What are you talking about?

[ehrenfeucht games]

37. One of the arguements for the ERA is that it would end Draft Registration. (nt)

[niyad]

14. exactly

[Politicub]

26. Right on!

[Bjornsdotter]

47. Agreed!

[surrealAmerican]

2. There's no good reason that anybody should register.

[Drale]

12. I agree

Any American government that tried to reinstate the draft would incite rebellion and/or mass migration out of the country.

[Control-Z]

23. Well, at least it might rid us

of a shit load of republicans.

[reteachinwi]

31. And prevent misadventures like Iraq.

[obamanut2012]

44. I agree

[liberal_at_heart]

3. irrelevant. we have a volunteer military.

[Leslie Valley]

10. For now

I'm sure you're aware that 18 year old males must still register.

Failure to do so can result in a loss of student loans and grants, eligibility for government jobs and other penalties.

[loyalsister]

13. Men register with selective service whether there is a draft in place or not

Women should too.

[niyad]

16. right after the ERA is passed, and those damned woman-hating legislators get the HELL out of

our bodies.

register? when we don't even have the right to reproductive autonomy, when we are still second-class citizens? when we STILL make less than men? when we live in a rape culture? no, I don't think so.

how about working on getting rid of the military industrial complex first--the bastards who use us all as cannon fodder--before you talk about registering for selective service.

[liberal_at_heart]

22. exactly. These are the real issues.

Those who cry that women should register come back and ask that question when we actually have a draft. Until then let's deal with the fact that women already serve in combat and are sexually assaulted and then thrown out of the military when they report it by the very people who they fight along side. Let's deal with the problems that already exist and worry about the what ifs later.

[left coaster]

24. THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nt

[DURHAM D]

25. .

[loyalsister]

27. I'm with you on the ERA

I wonder if eligibility for the draft first would speed things along. Every time we take a positive step forward people start to believe the ERA is not necessary.

[Bjornsdotter]

48. Right there with you

[ehrenfeucht games]

36. What percentage of men register at age 18?

It is simply not true that all men register for the draft.

Many men resist.

And many women would, also.

[loyalsister]

38. That's their right

It doesn't change the fact that women are excluded.

[ehrenfeucht games]

39. We all have the right to resist slavery.

Whether the government recognizes that right or not.

I'm just pointing out that not all men submit willingly to slavery.

And that many, many women would resist slavery, also.

Even military slavery.

[jeff47]

52. Sure, it's not like there's no penalty

'Cept for the up to $250k fine, up to 5 years in prison, ban on federal job training, ban on all forms of student aid, lifetime ban on government employment, lifetime ban on security clearance, and no drivers license in 19 states.

All under the belief that the federal government who's had his Social Security number since birth won't be able to find him if there's a draft.

[obliviously]

4. What the fuck is up with this shit.

I thought we were all like what we are saying is give peace a chance, more cannon fodder, whatever.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

6. Everybody should register @ 18.

[niyad]

18. why??

[JaneyVee]

7. Women are serving in combat roles today.

They just aren't recognized, paid or rewarded for that service.

[Warpy]

9. That's what the ruling was about

and not some male fantasy of getting all those young women into the military.

[pinboy3niner]

15. Absolutely. More than 130 women KIA in Iraq and Afghanistan, 600+ wounded.

How long can we pretend that we are not sending women to war?

[Warpy]

8. During the prime years for childbearing, just so they can be drafted?

Sure, what could possibly go wrong there?

[pinboy3niner]

20. They're already serving,fighting and dying in those years

We just turn a blind eye to it.

[Comrade_McKenzie]

19. No one should have to register. I will never put my life on the line against my will...

I'm glad at least one portion of society has the right not to be enslaved.

All volunteer or no fighting. Run out of troops? Accept defeat and move on.

[pinboy3niner]

34. I was drafted in '67

Called up my draft board and volunteered. I don't know if that spared someone else, but it meant only 2 years for me, as opposed to enlisting for 3 or 4.

Going for a commissison through the Army's 6-month OCS program and being wounded in VN combat extended my term to 4 1/2 years.

Today's all-volunteer military is a tradeoff in which very few bear the suffering and the sacrifice and there is a big disconnect between our military and our civilian society.

Still, I'm not a booster of a draft because of the more than 17,000 draftees we lost in Vietnam.

[Ilsa]

28. And once they have their new guns,

They can protect abortion clinics from harassment and closure by religious nuts and crazy stupid legislators.

[ZombieHorde]

29. I would rather go the other way and just get rid of the draft all together. nt

[ehrenfeucht games]

41. Exactly! (nt)

[morningfog]

30. Reinstate the draft and require women to register.

As long as we are requiring service-members to deploy to war zones, the draft should be active.

[Purveyor]

32. I agree with damn few deferments for anyone's child. They might then pay attention to whom they

are voting into office.

[ehrenfeucht games]

43. We don't need to attack anybody's children.

Our children are ends, not means.

Our children are not objects for you to cynically use to pummel your political opponents over the head with.

[ehrenfeucht games]

42. Fuck the Draft! (nt)

[morningfog]

45. Fuck the wars!

[ehrenfeucht games]

46. Exactly. (nt)

[Chathamization]

33. A cold war relic

that's nothing more than a waste. Carter reinstated it in 1980 when he was engaged in some saber-rattling; it's stayed in place because no one has bothered to get rid of it (who wants to be "weak on defense?&quot . Technically, men 18 - 25 are supposed to notify the government whenever they move - how many do you think do that?

[ehrenfeucht games]

40. And folks who think that Draft Registration is a deterrent to war should note...

...That President Carter instituted Draft Registration explicitely to fight the Afghanistan War, and we're still at war in Afghanistan more than 3 decades later.

[ehrenfeucht games]

35. No, it is not. Instead, they should join men in resisting Draft Registration. (nt)

[Marrah_G]

49. If anyone has to register, everyone should have to register

[Recursion]

50. If only we already had an office that counted how many people of what age lived in every house!

Then we wouldn't even need this.

[ehrenfeucht games]

51. There's no excuse for Democrats to support slavery.

Absolutely none.

I don't care if it's the military enslaving folks.

Slavery is just not right.

It's just not right.