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From a friend on FB, and I also want to know...
So they finally had to come out and admit it, now that the Coroner has released some info along with police.
An AR-15, or the so-called "Assault Weapon", was not used in the school shooting. The shooter even tried weeks earlier to buy a rifle but was turned down in the background check. So he had to kill his Mother to steal her rifle. There were initial reports, right after the shooting, that police found the AR-15 in his car, NOT IN THE SCHOOL. The rifle was not used. The shooter went into the school with 4 handguns, NOT an Assault Rifle as the media has charged. I remember in the initial hours of this shooting, the Police said they found the rifle in the car. But the Administration-controlled MSM had a pre-planned attack already waiting, to ban so-called assault weapons and jumped on that line of reporting, knowing it was a lie, which included people like Piers Morgan who said the shooter used an AR-15 that shoots hundreds of rounds per minute, as if it were a machine gun. Could it be that the Democrat Liberals and THEIR MEDIA were pushing for the new law, hoping they could do it, before the Coroner released the info? Absolutely.
http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495
amerikat
(4,909 posts)The shooter had two handguns and a Bushmaster semi-auto rile. A shot gun was found in the car.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I don't really care what kind of weapon it was. The result was mass carnage and 27 dead. But, people can keep arguing about clip size or whether or not the weapon had a bayonette attachment or not. Or that people don't like certain guns for cosmetic reasons. There will be a tipping point, I have no idea what that is, but people will tire of burying children for no good reason and guns will not be looked on nearly as kindly as they are now.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)are not going to convince the sensible citizens these weapons are needed. There are attacks on innocent American citizens and this has to stop. They should spend their efforts in educating the gun nuts about safety but this would bee too simple. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Many keep defending the right to own high caliber WMD. They argue semantics and point out that there are other ways for people to be violent. They attack gamers and people that like action adventure films. But, all the while ignoring the carnage that these hand held WMDs produce. If they want to keep pushing for that though, I am all for it. There are few legitimate reasons for having a gun.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Igel
(35,317 posts)The rest depends on whether you think of it as a rifle, musket, handgun, blunderbuss, etc. The words have ready-made definitions.
Using the ready-made definitions used by the military and other (for "assault rifle" and by Congress (or the State of Connecticut, for "assault weapon" it wasn't an assault rifle nor was it an assault weapon. People who know guns care about the definitions because they matter for the purposes of law and accuracy. The gun doesn't meet the requirements for an assault rifle. It doesn't meet the commonly accepted definition for an assault weapon.
Then again, you can call it what you want if you don't care about the standard definitions and don't care about legal niceties or accuracy: assault rifle, blunderbuss, repeater nudibranch, big-ass slug thrower. Whatever.
It was a semi-automatic rifle with a moderately large magazine. It could shoot a lot of bullets and look scary, and for some people that makes it an "assault weapon" or an "assault rifle" or a "machine gun". As long as they have no more pretensions to accuracy or precision in their speech than "lot of slugs, short time, and they terrify me" that's fine.
badhair77
(4,218 posts)loads of pro-gun blogs. If it's not true people are just spreading it at will and not checking veracity. Not a surprise I guess, if it fits their agenda.
OneTenthofOnePercent
(6,268 posts)Regardless of which weapons he used in the shooting, none of the weapon he had were assault weapons. CT has an assault weapons ban and the rifle was legal in that state... ergo it could not have been an assault rifle. Nor was the rifle a so-called assault weapon under the 1994 federal AWB.
xoom
(322 posts)Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)What they found in the car was a shotgun.
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babylonsister
(171,066 posts)I've shared? Did handguns tear up those kids? I am so confused.
Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)babylonsister
(171,066 posts)I sent that along; sounds legit!
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)The Connecticut Department of Emergency Services & Public Protection (the State Police) issued a statement subsequent to that report clarifying that the AR was indeed found in the school.
Aristus
(66,380 posts)This word-usage tells you all you need to know about the source...
Whovian
(2,866 posts)Pistols with large mags among them.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)One of those babies was shot ELEVEN times. Who gives a shit about the name of the weapon? That argument is just a diversion to avoid passing gun control legislation.
I'm reminded of my crazy libertarian family member on my Facebook page last week. There was a shooting across the street from a school where I used to work. I posted the article on my page with a note to my friends who still work there. My nephew - who doesn't live here and doesn't know the neighborhood where the school is located - Google mapped the address, got it wrong, and claimed the media was lying because the shooting had actually happened 3 LONG blocks away from the school. (Like I wouldn't know the address - since I did used to work there?!) He then went into a long bunch of nonsense about how the media is just exaggerating all these school shootings to get everyone in a frenzy about gun control.
Let's stop arguing about addresses and what we are going to call weapons and focus on the need to keep our kids safe.