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http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/278579-boehners-inauguration-smoke-joke-had-first-ladys-eyes-rolling. . .
Larry Wenig, a lip-reading expert, tells Inside Edition that his analysis shows the Ohio Republican asked President Obama if he had a cigarette before the Monday luncheon.
While Obama quit smoking in 2010, Boehner still lights up. Obama has called giving up the habit for good hard.
According to Wenig, Boehner was referring to Michelle when he quipped to the commander in chief, Somebody wont let you do it.
A silent video of the exchange shows the first lady then rolling her eyes.
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seabeyond
(110,159 posts)ole ball and chain wont let you
that would be why obama caressed her back.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)A smoking joke is one thing, but that other remark is pretty beyond the pale.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)look closely at the big video.
He flicks her arm, then she gives him the eyeroll AND moves her arm.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)but, ya, that was letting her know his "joke" was coming
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Well, the eyeroll video has gone viral, so someone will surely show it to him.
For all the good it will do the sow's ear.
this creep has no class at all , just crude and mean spirited . Wish Michelle could have punched his smart-mouth pinched face .
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)Plus, slamming the First Lady will surely poison the well in future negotiations. Perhaps that was Boehner's true intent. I'm waiting for the apology from Boehner....
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)than all the other tired and old sexist jokes we hear too often.
thanks. at least one man is letting me know it is not offensive. i thought this one was the obvious.
WeekendWarrior
(1,437 posts)Women make the same kinds of cracks all the timeand worseabout their husbands. I detest Bonehead, but I give him a pass on this one.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)with michelles role of the eye.
and it is men that dismiss women when we say, it is not funny and we recognize it for what it is. and that dismissal, is why men continually, repeatedly, constantly make these stupid and old and tired jokes mocking women, thinking it is so fuckin' funny.
so. oh, please... yourself
JustAnotherGen
(31,932 posts)And the 'old ball and chain thing' - as feminists - we tend to pick men with strong backbones that do what they want when they want. Not only did it paint her as a ball and chain - but him as bullied by a cuckhold.
To be strong enough to be my man - you better be an opinionated pain in the ass.
And if someone indicated that my husband was some little wimp who just cowered when I 'told him to do something' or would or would not allow him to do something - I would roll my eyes too.
Energy attracts it's same energy. She's a strong woman, he's a strong man. I've got a feeling neither one would dare to 'boss each other around'.
Now Boehner's wife? I betcha he pushes her around all the time. Not physically - but I bet he's an arrogant bully at home - just like he is at work.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)when i was talking about this. my oldest son clearly thought it sexist and mocking the wife.
he didnt see how anyone couldnt see that. but then, he does not see women in that role and doesnt see it in this house.
you are exactly right. it is an insult to the wife, the husband, their relationship and interaction with each other.
WeekendWarrior
(1,437 posts)with callous indifference, I've also heard them say vile and disgusting things about them.
No gender is perfect. And ball and chain jokes are as old as the hills coming from both genders.
Get over yourself and lighten up.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)you hear me argue women are perfect, then throw it at me.
and this thread, and the poster i was replying to, has nothing to do with that.
that would be derailing and ignoring what a poster says.
you get the fuck over yourself, and you do not tell me what to liten up about and what to take seriously.
WeekendWarrior
(1,437 posts)srican69
(1,426 posts)this is so wrong ...
valerief
(53,235 posts)srican69
(1,426 posts)the comments were found on the link in the OP
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)so I scrolled down through the comments on that article. Wow, you had to troll through a lot of disgusting racist trash in order to find a couple of comments about Michelle having her elbows on the table, didn't you?
And THAT'S what got you all excited? Not the filth above?
Wow.
srican69
(1,426 posts)nt
longship
(40,416 posts)I am not surprised. Where I live, many people smoke.
I am sure that habit is more common in Congress than people know.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)and his booze...he's done something to his liver function...
longship
(40,416 posts)No Vested Interest
(5,167 posts)I live near Boehner's district; the story in these parts are that he has always been that color; that it is natural.
He has ca 10 siblings and some or one of his parents (Mom) may be the same color.
If it is natural, comments on his skin color should be out-of-order.
Boehner repulses me, but not because of his skin color.
Perhaps his smoking and drinking have contributed to it.
His father owned a bar and Boehner did work in and around the bar, if that has any part in the discussion.
I don't know, and I have never read that he himself or his staff has broached the subject of his skin color.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)so say the news reports I have read about him.
Good news is, he is well on his way to lung cancer, if his liver does not go first.
What a tacky tacky man..they should hold mandatory etiquette seminars for Republicans.
Rule One: Do not disrespect the President or his wife, privately or publicaly.
Rule Two: Don't be an asshole anywhere.
FunkyLeprechaun
(2,383 posts)and she saw Boehner and she told me he stank of smoke. It's the kind of smoke that you know someone's a smoker even before they come within 3 feet of you.
siligut
(12,272 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)or take my word for it and spare your eyes the sorrow....
Bucky
(54,087 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)and listening to his voice that he's a long-time smoker.
He's got the deep lines and wrinkles that smokers get, and he has that quality to his voice (I don't know what word to use) that again you only hear in smokers.
Hekate
(90,858 posts)Really rips the vocal cords in the end.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Huh.
I thought that was from those lost week ends.
louis-t
(23,308 posts)Yes, boner, 'real men' smoke, 'real men' don't quit because their wives want them to, 'real men' drink whatever you drink, you're a 'real man', repukes are all 'real men', blah, blah, blah.....
greatauntoftriplets
(175,754 posts)I'll roll my eyes in solidarity with Mrs. O. ===>
Cha
(297,795 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,754 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)she doesn't have to put up with that vile man...
greatauntoftriplets
(175,754 posts)Sexist 1950s thinking, IMHO.
okaawhatever
(9,469 posts)okay with that.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)groceries in the supermarket. Crooning in one of those high registered voices. Thinking they are cute. And the poor kid has to listen to it...
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)but who are you talking about, obama, bohner, or the post that says a man needs to answer to his wife, lol
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Gore1FL
(21,156 posts)and it's OK to make requests of one another.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)women.
we have heard it endlessly, forever.
why are we pretending it is anything else.
that would be dishonest.
women have been forever rolling their eyes, and men have been pretending forever it is funny and it isnt.
Gore1FL
(21,156 posts)She never did. Since then we have divorced as friends and I stopped smoking.
Who cares what Boehner says, meant, or otherwise thinks?
The implication of the joke is "You respect your wife so much you will do something difficult because it means a lot to her." Unless you are looking to be offended, there is no offense to be had.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)that is the laugh between men.
but whatever... really. done.
Gore1FL
(21,156 posts)But feel free to be offended.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)you are in good company. just alerted on another that had already been tos'ed how just a chuckle amongst the guys.
good for you, to let us women know how we should feel. da man.
Gore1FL
(21,156 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Gore1FL
(21,156 posts)It's funny that you take me pointing out obvious things as me giving you permission. Whatever. Anything to be offended, eh?
Kennah
(14,337 posts)Now I'm dizzy from all the eye rolling I had to do to catch up. The Boner is a First Rate Douche.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)To be around for the next 30 or 40 years. Just sayin'...
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)me of the courtiers in the court of louis XVI gossiping.
it's just court gossip, & stupid court gossip because it's entirely personal & has nothing to do with political issues.
the inaugural's over, could we get back to things that actually matter?
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)other people talk about?
FSogol
(45,553 posts)Just saying....
judesedit
(4,443 posts)He doesn't have a mean look on his face, but maybe he knows what a sensitive subject it is for the Obamas. Naturally, Michelle wants Obama to be healthy. Maybe Boehner's wife should try encouraging her hubby to quit. Obviously, each party was experiencing some discomfort.
LiberalFighter
(51,166 posts)She has to know that there isn't much of a future with him politically at this point. His star has gone as far as it can. She might be thinking she can live better alone than as two on the savings.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)Unfunny jokes. Yep, I'd roll my eyes at that remark too.
It kind of explains why Boehner's wife didn't look happy though. She probably was as insulted as Michelle was by the "somebody won't let you do it" remark.
LiberalFighter
(51,166 posts)That is a disgusting smell. The stink fills up all of the openings in ones clothes and stays there. And if he spends time in low dive bars there is the smell of urine too.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)I never realized it when I was a smoker, but now that I'm not I notice it on others who smoke.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)When I did volunteer work in my son's first grade classroom some years back, I noticed that one child always smelled of cigarettes. It was bizarre. And when my sister, whose husband smoked, sent me baby clothes when I was expecting, the first thing I had to do was wash the already clean clothes because, yep, they reeked of cigarettes.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)I never smoked in the house, a vehicle or in any inclosed area because it would ruin them. Funny how I could make that connection and not realize I was walking round stinking to the high heavens.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)You mail out a book that stinks, you don't get your points.
LiberalFighter
(51,166 posts)that the smoke will move towards me because it was seeking out the open spaces of my clothes. It won't do it as much for smokers because their clothes are already filled.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)smell.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)It was one of the things he commented on after I quit.
Hekate
(90,858 posts)You get used to it, that's all. But once you either move away (as I did from my parents) or someone quits (as my ex did) the nonsmoker's nose clears, the environment clears, and then you really lose your tolerance for the odor. Smokers who visit me (like my daughter) simply take it outside.
My brother has been a pack a day (or more) smoker since he was a young teen; and now in his mid-60s he not only has emphysema, he reeks. Like the alcohol he takes in, it literally comes off his skin, not just his breath. I love him and am sorry about this, but I am glad I don't live with him.
Landlords have no-smoking rules now because cigarette smoke stains the walls and ceiling and the smell gets in the carpets and drapery and can't really be cleaned out.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)pretty much kill the odor.
That's what we did back in 1989 when we bought a home and the husband was a smoker.
Hekate
(90,858 posts)... it was sad how much you could smell the results of there having been a smoker in residence. The reek of lemon "air freshener" overlaying it didn't help, either. It would have taken paint and new carpeting at a minimum.
Anyway, I'm glad it worked out for you folks.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)In a different city (from the one where we repainted) when househunting, I can very clearly recall at least one house that we absolutely would not consider because of the cigarette smoke smell.
Another time, about five years ago, I was thinking I'd move to a particular city and was doing some preliminary househunting, and again, the cigarette smoke was a total turnoff. Unfortunately, smokers really do not get it, because they either don't notice the smell at all, or it's simply a familiar and okay one for them.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)down the class scale.
iow, landlords have no-smoking rules for the same reason prisons have pee in a bottle rules. because they can, & no one will kick.
rich & middle class people can buy a place to smoke & use drugs & alcohol if they care to.
gateley
(62,683 posts)She should have said "he didn't but did you get a snootful of merlot?"
BeyondGeography
(39,386 posts)elleng
(131,193 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)knew it. as did obama.
but wtf... go after michelle for being too sensitive.
BeyondGeography
(39,386 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)tell him to grow up. behave? be respectful?
this is what men do when another says something sexist in front of wife and doesnt want to cause problems or make it worse.
BeyondGeography
(39,386 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)men think it is funny. women have been hearing this shit all our lives. and regardless of women rolling our eyes, or telling men it isnt funny, they still say the same shit, and they still laugh their ass off, wink wink, nudge nudge, cause we all know it is bullshit.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)but Boehner hits Michelle Obama on the arm. She recoils, pulls her arm away from him as if to prevent him from hitting her again, and only then does she roll her eyes. That video looked real from me. The President and Boehner may have been joking about smoking, but Michelle was pulling away from Boehner because he touched her. How repugnant would that be?
I'm glad Obama quit smoking or at least cut down on it because it means he is likely to live longer, and we will need him even after the next four years. It means so much to have former presidents with us.
Earth_First
(14,910 posts)elleng
(131,193 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)i prefer bad lip reading, I hope the BLR people give us an alternate answer.
LiberalFighter
(51,166 posts)in the back room shenanigans.
The consequences? Obama calling him out on the carpet. Letting him know to show better respect to the First Lady.
Blue Owl
(50,529 posts)n/t
siligut
(12,272 posts)How sad really and Boehner is kind of vain, smoking just ruins your skin.
Hekate
(90,858 posts)Why not just follow it up with "Mr. Prez is ___________ whipped" for good measure?
libodem
(19,288 posts)And I am shocked! Shocked I tell you. I said the word silently in my mind. Oh, noes.....
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Of course the President himself didn't make such a decision for his own good.
In GOP-Land, such responsible acts only come from "regulation"... intrusive regulations. No one would ever stop polluting anything (air, water, self) unless MADE to.
Bok_Tukalo
(4,323 posts)No big deal.
Man, it would be rough having people speculate about every eye roll. It would drive me nuts.
Hekate
(90,858 posts)... to try to bring a duly elected president down by thwarting every single piece of legislation and every single gesture of conciliation, just because he's not a white Republican?
Suuure.
Bok_Tukalo
(4,323 posts)<OPE>
Z_California
(650 posts)I had to scroll a long way to find the winner
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,374 posts)My motorcade will roll through a takeout BBQ joint, and find a quiet spot on the Potomac shore for a picnic. Lunch in a political crowd with cameras rolling just seems like no fun at all.
A job with no breaks, no "off" time. No thanks.
Mr.Bill
(24,334 posts)she should have looked right at him and screamed HELL NO!
Or taken a page from the Cheney playbook and said Go Fuck Yourself.
rhiannon55
(2,671 posts)ten years into our relationship. He had been a smoker long before I met him, and he succumbed to it again. He never smelled the same after that and it definitely interfered with our intimacy. Unfortunately, he never stopped until the morning he died from a heart attack. I blame the smoking as a large factor in his early (age 59) death. I had tried and tried to get him to stop, and was unsuccessful. I hate tobacco smoking more than almost any other vice.
I'm thrilled that President Obama no longer indulges in that nasty, destructive habit.
Ztolkins
(429 posts)Which is more than I watch most 25 second videos...and I see no eye roll. Am I on drugs?
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)the whole thing was basically an inside joke about smoking between the obamas and the orange man - with the latter obviously thinking it is all more clever than at least one of the former does?
am i right?
barkway
(11 posts)Personally, I think Mrs. Obama showed amazing grace sitting next to him and not hauling off and smacking that POS after the way he has treated her husband since he was elected.
Oakenshield
(614 posts)I'm more disgusted with the fact he actually touched her than the stupid and insensitive sexist jab. I probably would have shivered in disgust if I were in her shoes. After all the crap he's pulled he has no right whatsoever to act familiar with the First Lady. As for the President himself...his self restraint never ceases to amaze me, and kudos to Michael for brushing Boner off with that eye roll.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)if they do not listen to you.
Oakenshield
(614 posts)We've always ignored them anyway.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)his overly familiar slap.
Fucking drunkard.