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WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 11:16 PM Jan 2013

Important: Some very bad shit went down in Virginia today - Please Read

Virginia GOP Pulls ‘Dirty Trick’ On Inauguration Day
TPM

Democrats in Virginia are accusing state Republicans of taking advantage of a prominent civil rights leader’s trip to Washington for the presidential inauguration to pull a “dirty trick” in order to take control of the state Senate in the 2015 elections.

The state Senate is split 20-20 between Republicans and Democrats. On Monday, while state Sen. Henry Marsh (D) — a 79-year-old civil rights veteran — was reportedly in Washington to attend President Obama’s second inaugural, GOP senators forced through a mid-term redistricting plan that Democrats say will make it easier for Republicans to gain a majority.

With Marsh’s absence, Senate Republicans in Richmond had one more vote than Senate Democrats and could push the measure through. The new redistricting map revises the districts created under the 2011 map and would take effect before the next state Senate elections in Virginia and would redraw district lines to maximize the number of safe GOP seats.

(snip...and for an added twist of the sick-fuckers knife...)

“On motion of Senator Stosch, the Senate adjourned in memory or [sic] General Thomas J. ‘Stonewall’ Jackson at 4:10 p.m. to convene Tuesday, January 22, 2013,” read the official minutes of the legislative day.

The rest: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/01/republicans-dirty-trick-inauguration.php

Great day today.

Back to work tomorrow.

Rust never sleeps.

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Important: Some very bad shit went down in Virginia today - Please Read (Original Post) WilliamPitt Jan 2013 OP
K/R (nt) NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #1
Right; thanks for the reminder. elleng Jan 2013 #2
the GOP-- governing by dirty tricks.... mike_c Jan 2013 #3
Didn't Tricky Dicky Angelonthesidelines Jan 2013 #84
Cheating is the only thing they know. Bastards. catbyte Jan 2013 #4
Between gerrymandering and attempting to apportion Ilsa Jan 2013 #5
They never do anything without cheating. nt patrice Jan 2013 #6
can anyone answer this? Takket Jan 2013 #7
The Supreme Court mandated "one man, one vote" starroute Jan 2013 #8
Unfortunately, gerrymandering is a long-standing "tradition" in BOTH SoCalDem Jan 2013 #9
Some States Have Commissions Charged With Drawing The Lines DallasNE Jan 2013 #39
I'm still stuck with D. Issa, what a jerk. xtraxritical Jan 2013 #65
While "both sides have done it" Lordquinton Jan 2013 #75
Yeahh... Spryguy Jan 2013 #85
The Senate adjourned in memory or General Thomas J. ‘Stonewall’ Jackson geomon666 Jan 2013 #10
...I agree. janx Jan 2013 #11
Va. had proposed joint Robert Lee-Stonewall Jackson - ML King Day JPZenger Jan 2013 #80
My kids, who are in high school now, used to have Lee-Jackson-King day as a holiday Neurotica Jan 2013 #96
Who says Rethugs aren't racist?.... paleotn Jan 2013 #92
Any reason that quakerboy Jan 2013 #12
Interesting isn't it Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #13
Governor is a douchebag republican RedstDem Jan 2013 #60
So can't we do something like sue or stop them through injunction. I thought gerrymandering lonestarnot Jan 2013 #14
The only time it's illegal is if it's found to be in violation of the voters rights act. Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #15
Voting rights act violation if only one party can ever be elected. What's to demonstrate about that lonestarnot Jan 2013 #16
FWIW I agree with you. Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #17
Nevermind, figured it out while heating up left overs :) lonestarnot Jan 2013 #19
I'm sorry, it's an acronym for "for what it's worth" Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #20
Soright bobalouie lonestarnot Jan 2013 #22
K&R GO VIRAL! Cha Jan 2013 #18
Spam deleted by Kali (MIR Team) sage advice Jan 2013 #23
Go back to your cave. Cha Jan 2013 #27
Wow, BYE idiot. Lex Jan 2013 #29
How is it possible to bring up a bill without it being published on a docket in advance? BlueStreak Jan 2013 #21
Spam deleted by cyberswede (MIR Team) sage advice Jan 2013 #24
From thinkprogress octoberlib Jan 2013 #25
Won't matter if we get rid of the electoral college. It's bullshit anyway. We do NOT need them. judesedit Jan 2013 #26
This doesn't have anything to do with the electoral college. MadrasT Jan 2013 #58
Actually it could csziggy Jan 2013 #63
I'll bet we're going to see a lot more of this. Kablooie Jan 2013 #28
K&R nt abelenkpe Jan 2013 #30
I'm Surprised This Is Even Legal DallasNE Jan 2013 #31
You took the words right out of my mouth.... Pachamama Jan 2013 #48
Others Are Now Weighing In On Constitutional Issue With This Measure DallasNE Jan 2013 #76
Rs hate democracy. nt Deep13 Jan 2013 #32
They know they can't win legally.Never have, never will.We must stop them.Get the money out of govt judesedit Jan 2013 #33
Organizing for Action..... Pachamama Jan 2013 #50
Didn't the repukes in NC do the same $hit last year....... TheDebbieDee Jan 2013 #34
Yes, a Dem legislator accidentally hit wrong button when voting about fracking mnhtnbb Jan 2013 #41
That must be a different incident...... TheDebbieDee Jan 2013 #88
This kind of thing . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #35
is this all they got? Phillip McCleod Jan 2013 #36
Kick It! sheshe2 Jan 2013 #37
These are stopgap measures. nyquil_man Jan 2013 #38
Typical. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #40
Republican Family Values - DeGenerate Style Berlum Jan 2013 #42
Are the dems begging them for a grand bargain? RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #43
Resorting to their usual HappyMe Jan 2013 #44
and don't forget guns maryland native Jan 2013 #45
When I was in the eighth grade back before the days of vinyl records, I was taught Cleita Jan 2013 #46
Your teacher may have thought it was illegal but it is not. former9thward Jan 2013 #99
Horrible. However, I will say that Are_grits_groceries Jan 2013 #47
Not a done deal, has to get through house and Governor - lynne Jan 2013 #49
Lincoln should have hanged every Secessionist politician and army officer as traitors. Ikonoklast Jan 2013 #51
kick HappyMe Jan 2013 #52
Petition the White House! Indyfan53 Jan 2013 #53
To what? bobclark86 Jan 2013 #54
This has exactly nothing to do with the Electoral College. MadrasT Jan 2013 #59
Virginia must still get "preclearance" from the DOJ under the VRA for all redistricting. toddwv Jan 2013 #55
Repugs are afraid of progress and cant handle DEMOCRACY. the SHAME is theirs. CarmanK Jan 2013 #56
Losers. Raffi Ella Jan 2013 #57
Stonewall Jackson? MadrasT Jan 2013 #61
That's like a Rorschact blot WilliamPitt Jan 2013 #62
I'm not surprised by any of the dirty tricks pulled by the GOP. In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #64
That's funny, Will! juajen Jan 2013 #87
Excuse me . . . In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #89
it seems that mamayo Jan 2013 #66
Just the redneck way of saying they still run things in the Commonwealth Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #67
Cowards, cheaters, nutjobs, traitors and scoundrels- beac Jan 2013 #68
Talking about this on Ed Schultz radio show right now. First time Ed's heard it. mountain grammy Jan 2013 #69
blame the Liberals who pitched a fit in 2010 and sat out the election N/T broadcaster75201 Jan 2013 #70
Blame yourself. FiveGoodMen Jan 2013 #77
Oh FFS! Wind Dancer Jan 2013 #94
Spam deleted by cyberswede (MIR Team) soft_eyes Jan 2013 #71
Holy shit dude. You're just on a roll today, tough guy. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #73
Can there be any doubt of the veracity of DHS's 2009 assessment that domestic right-wing extremist indepat Jan 2013 #72
Please write and tell them your views!! oldandhappy Jan 2013 #74
Unfortunately, un.ess you live in Va. they don't GAS! napi21 Jan 2013 #101
The Reality. Beowulf42 Jan 2013 #78
Astute observation. WilliamPitt Jan 2013 #81
Despicable! Plucketeer Jan 2013 #79
In this instance, H2O Man Jan 2013 #82
I wonder why black Americans don't trust the GOP? Faygo Kid Jan 2013 #83
It might be nice if people considered not buying Virginia products LiberalEsto Jan 2013 #86
I wonder if the blue portions of Virginia could seperate 47of74 Jan 2013 #90
How predictable that the GOP would resort to these tactics dallaslibguy1966104 Jan 2013 #91
At what point can we wonder if the DEMs are playing losers to the GOPs Harlem Globetrotters? blkmusclmachine Jan 2013 #93
Senate adjourned in memory or General Thomas J. ‘Stonewall’ Jackson ??? lunasun Jan 2013 #95
This is why we should have voted in 2010. Indyfan53 Jan 2013 #97
The GOP in Virginia is evil. avaistheone1 Jan 2013 #98
Write! oldandhappy Jan 2013 #100

Ilsa

(61,704 posts)
5. Between gerrymandering and attempting to apportion
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 11:20 PM
Jan 2013

presidential electoral college votes to align with rigged districts, our democracy is in danger.

Takket

(21,640 posts)
7. can anyone answer this?
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 11:21 PM
Jan 2013

Its been a long time since I was in history class in high school but i explicitly remember being taught that gerrymandering was made illegal by some law of some sort at some point. Am I remembering wrong??? Because it seems like almost once a week I hear some report about Republicans gerrymandering to win federal/state seats.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
8. The Supreme Court mandated "one man, one vote"
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 11:28 PM
Jan 2013

Meaning that electoral districts had to have close to equal populations. But in a separate decision, the Court refused to strike down gerrymandering -- in which the districts are of equal sizes but are twisted all over the map in order to optimize one party's chances.

That was before computers made it easy to construct these really outrageous electoral maps and still stay within the Court's guidelines. So there's a faint chance the Court might reconsider the decision at some point -- but not with the present set of justices.





SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
9. Unfortunately, gerrymandering is a long-standing "tradition" in BOTH
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 11:30 PM
Jan 2013

parties, so no one's hands are clean.

We need a truly non partisan way of computerized by zip-code/population, and let the chips fall where they may.

After a few cycles, things would settle into normalcy.

We changed our redistricting out here and due to it, we finally were able to dump Mary Bono...yay!!

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
39. Some States Have Commissions Charged With Drawing The Lines
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:40 AM
Jan 2013

And have fair Congressional district lines drawn. Iowa is one such State and that purple State has 2 Democrats and 2 Republicans in the House so it can be done. (I know, one of them is Steve King but that is beside the point -- NW Iowa happens to be very Republican).

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
75. While "both sides have done it"
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:28 PM
Jan 2013

I firmly reject your premise, yes, our side has a couple places where the districts are a little weird, but that doesn't compare at all to the state of most of the country, where the only reason the Rs have any say is because they are twisting things so strongly they are way beyond where they ever should be, and it's only going to get worse.

It's like saying Fox and MSNBC are the same just on opposite sides.

JPZenger

(6,819 posts)
80. Va. had proposed joint Robert Lee-Stonewall Jackson - ML King Day
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 05:32 PM
Jan 2013

In the 1980s, many Virginia legislators seriously fought against designating ML King Day as a state holiday. Eventually, they proposed what they considered to be a compromise. They would take the existing state holiday that they had in place for Confederate Generals Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson, and add Martin Luther King's name to the end of it. It would be Lee-Jackson-King Day.

The idea was not well-received.

Neurotica

(609 posts)
96. My kids, who are in high school now, used to have Lee-Jackson-King day as a holiday
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 11:40 PM
Jan 2013

That used to bother me so much. Very happy that it was changed at some point to MLK day only.

paleotn

(17,989 posts)
92. Who says Rethugs aren't racist?....
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:20 PM
Jan 2013

...at least the Virginia variety. Adjourned in memory of a nut job, racist war monger. These people just won't let it go. What do we have to do? Take them all to Appomattox and rub their collective noses in it? You lost! Get over it or get the hell out!

quakerboy

(13,921 posts)
12. Any reason that
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 11:52 PM
Jan 2013

The Democrats cant just wait till one of the R's is out with a cold and switch it back?

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
14. So can't we do something like sue or stop them through injunction. I thought gerrymandering
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:16 AM
Jan 2013

was supposed to be illegal.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
15. The only time it's illegal is if it's found to be in violation of the voters rights act.
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:22 AM
Jan 2013

If you can't prove that, then there's not a lot you can do under the current system. A system which needs to be changed.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
20. I'm sorry, it's an acronym for "for what it's worth"
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:34 AM
Jan 2013

I do that sometimes when I'm on my phone without thinking. My apologies.

Response to Cha (Reply #18)

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
21. How is it possible to bring up a bill without it being published on a docket in advance?
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:41 AM
Jan 2013

And do they truly have no quorum requirements? In most bodies, you must have a majority of members present in order to conduct business. If the Dems all walked out, there would not have been a majority present.

Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
25. From thinkprogress
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:52 AM
Jan 2013
Just last month, the state’s Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli lobbied to have the state exempt from the Voting Rights Act’s redistricting requirements because the state had “outgrown” racism. Largely, redistricting has disenfranchised Democratic votes.
The gerrymandering bill now goes to the heavily Republican House of Delegates for a vote, where it will likely face little opposition.


http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/21/1475811/virginia-rushes-redistricting/


NC Dems are currently involved in a nasty court battle with the state's Republicans over gerrymandering.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
58. This doesn't have anything to do with the electoral college.
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:08 PM
Jan 2013

It is Virginia state senate districts.

csziggy

(34,139 posts)
63. Actually it could
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:21 PM
Jan 2013

Republicans in a number of states are trying to tie allocations of electoral votes to the distribution of election districts, the Congressional District Method. So if the districts are gerrymandered in favor of Republican victories, that means that the electoral votes will be swayed in favor of Republican electors in those states.

Since so many states' legislatures are dominated by Republicans, the Congressional District Method is a danger to fair counting of our votes.

See: http://archive.fairvote.org/e_college/reform.htm#district

Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
28. I'll bet we're going to see a lot more of this.
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:58 AM
Jan 2013

It seems that last minute gerrymandering and Electoral college re-calculating is the golden key for Republicans to take total control of government again.

Especially since everything in the country is turning against them, open and honest elections will not treat them well so I predict we will see lots of extreme, desperate actions and every dirty trick in the book taken by Republicans in the next few years.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
31. I'm Surprised This Is Even Legal
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:08 AM
Jan 2013

First, today is a national holiday so why is the State Senate even in session. Second, the boundary lines have already been drawn for this decade so under what authority can they draw them up again unless under court order. Lastly, naked partisan moves like this don't go down well with American citizens so while there may be short term gain the odd of this biting them in the back side just shot up.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
48. You took the words right out of my mouth....
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:33 AM
Jan 2013

....thought exact same thing and was going to post after I read through comments....



And yet what we both thought seems so common sense, but that doesnt mean it didnt happen...now the real question is how do we we reverse this and stop this sh*t from continuing? I am so tired....you would think at a time when people see the greatest cheater and liar of all time in the news (Armstrong) that people would say "enough" and want to change our societyinto one that doesnt accept this kind of cheating and dishonesty.

And then again, maybe that is the bigger problem....our society has become one that accepts this behaviour and therefore until they say no more, the governmental entities like the GOP in VA will be able to continue this and the rest of the GOP's plans to effectively steal the electoral on an a la carte basis in the future.....because no one is stopping them or holding them accountable and the public seems to not care....

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
76. Others Are Now Weighing In On Constitutional Issue With This Measure
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:30 PM
Jan 2013

It seems pretty clear that this will be challenged in court should the lame duck Governor sign this measure.

http://www.bluevirginia.us/showComment.do?commentId=31089

judesedit

(4,443 posts)
33. They know they can't win legally.Never have, never will.We must stop them.Get the money out of govt
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:15 AM
Jan 2013

Anonymous expose them all so they have to run away.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
50. Organizing for Action.....
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:42 AM
Jan 2013

....just hit me as I read your post....

I like others here got the email from the President with the video from Michelle Obama.....Obama for America became "Organizing for Action".... Action to keep things moving in right direction....Action to stop what the special interest groups and corporations have done...Action to protect our voting rights....

Obama is brilliant....he understands that it cant end with his election....and he is truly turning back to us and saying its our democracy if we take responsibility....and action....

Wow....like an epiphany, it just made me realize how brilliant and important this is....I wasnt going to donate....I felt maxed out after this horrendous election cycle....but even if its just $10 - I am in...and it will be interesting to see how others react and how this evolves....and not just donate - actually participate and go volunteer....

Meanwhile, I am just hoping and praying that Senator Harry Reid, Senate Majority Leader, today takes some very important steps regarding Senate business and the filibuster....

Hey, a girl can dream, right? But seeing our President sworn in for a 2nd time yesterday, on MLK day, with Medgar Evers widow standing there, made me realize, dreams do come true....

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
34. Didn't the repukes in NC do the same $hit last year.......
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:22 AM
Jan 2013

A Dem attended the funeral of a family member and the repukes took advantage of that one day attendance total to call a quorum, I think and pass some legislation - I can't remember what the legislation was.........but it sucked!

mnhtnbb

(31,408 posts)
41. Yes, a Dem legislator accidentally hit wrong button when voting about fracking
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 06:48 AM
Jan 2013

and Republicans refused to let her change her vote when she instantly realized what
she'd done.


http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/07/03/2176029/how-a-lawmakers-mistaken-vote.html

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
88. That must be a different incident......
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 08:50 PM
Jan 2013

I remember that a state legislator attended a funeral......maybe it happened in a different state.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
35. This kind of thing . . .
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:36 AM
Jan 2013

This kind of thing and voter suppression are about all the Republicans have left. We are going to see them work gerrymandering like a borrowed sports car for the next four years.

sheshe2

(83,950 posts)
37. Kick It!
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:03 AM
Jan 2013

It is all they have left. The party of no ideas, no values, no brains. Time to cheat I guess.

nyquil_man

(1,443 posts)
38. These are stopgap measures.
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:15 AM
Jan 2013

They assume that the voters in these new districts will never have a reason to vote Democratic and that newer voters in these districts will continue to vote the same way the older voters have.

Both are foolish assumptions.

RandiFan1290

(6,256 posts)
43. Are the dems begging them for a grand bargain?
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 06:56 AM
Jan 2013

I'm sure there must be some deal or grand bargain?? They can't just push their agenda and leave out all the democrats, right?
Our party always tries to bargain with them and give them as much as they want so we can have a nice mushy weak bipartisan deal.



maryland native

(48 posts)
45. and don't forget guns
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:02 AM
Jan 2013

I believe that concurrent with this shenanigans already described, this is the day that residents of Virginia descend on the State Legislature ARMED and walk around "lobbying" for even greater gun rights.....

Sigh....

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
46. When I was in the eighth grade back before the days of vinyl records, I was taught
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:11 AM
Jan 2013

in civics class that gerrymandering or similar practices were illegal. Or am I remembering that wrong? Maybe I was taught it should be illegal. It should be because it is undermining our Democracy and seems to border a bit on political treason.

former9thward

(32,097 posts)
99. Your teacher may have thought it was illegal but it is not.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 02:38 PM
Jan 2013

It used to be somewhat difficult to gerrymander but with the invention of computers they do all the work now.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
47. Horrible. However, I will say that
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:15 AM
Jan 2013

if the Dems in any office haven't learned by now NEVER to trust the GOPeas, they are asking for this.
NEVER trust them because they are always up to something, and NEVER assume they won't stoop to the lowest level possible.

lynne

(3,118 posts)
49. Not a done deal, has to get through house and Governor -
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:40 AM
Jan 2013

- rumor has it the Gov isn't real happy with it as his focus is bipartisan support for transportation issues and this would throw a wrench in those plans.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
51. Lincoln should have hanged every Secessionist politician and army officer as traitors.
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:44 AM
Jan 2013

This country wouldn't be in the shape it is if he had done so.

Indyfan53

(473 posts)
53. Petition the White House!
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 11:45 AM
Jan 2013

We must encourage the President to use his executive power to stop this! This is also happening in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and other blue states that could go red.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
54. To what?
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:20 PM
Jan 2013

Interfere with a state's right to choose how it appoints electors to the Electoral College as described in Article II, Section I of the Constitution? Assuming he could actually try something, it will never stand in court and the administration needs the ensuing firestorm of federal overreach for partisan gain like a hole in the head. I was under the impression he wanted to get something done in the second term. This isn't it. If you want ANOTHER excuse for Republicans to call for impeachment, this would be a good one, and they might actually have a chance.

The ONLY thing that can be done is a constitutional amendment to trash the Electoral College once and for all.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
55. Virginia must still get "preclearance" from the DOJ under the VRA for all redistricting.
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:22 PM
Jan 2013

Good luck with that.

Raffi Ella

(4,465 posts)
57. Losers.
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:47 PM
Jan 2013

How must it feel to be a member of a party that has to cheat in order to win...and how long do they think they can keep it up? The Demographics are changing and will eventually overtake any effort to cheat their way through.

Enjoy what little power you have while it lasts dumb asses, your days are numbered.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
61. Stonewall Jackson?
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:17 PM
Jan 2013

Seriously?

Are they unhinged?

As for the gerrymandering... they are lower than snakes. The R's gerrymandered the fuck out of PA, too.

Welcome to my world... PA-7:



That shit should be illegal to begin with.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
62. That's like a Rorschact blot
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:19 PM
Jan 2013

I see a laughing Mitch McConnell picking John Boehner's nose right over Coatesville.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
67. Just the redneck way of saying they still run things in the Commonwealth
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:51 PM
Jan 2013

But it won't be that way forever -- The ice is cracking under their feet as we speak...

beac

(9,992 posts)
68. Cowards, cheaters, nutjobs, traitors and scoundrels-
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:05 PM
Jan 2013

a.k.a. today's GOP.

Disgusting, but not beyond belief from these shameless bastards.

mountain grammy

(26,658 posts)
69. Talking about this on Ed Schultz radio show right now. First time Ed's heard it.
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:30 PM
Jan 2013

Essential that we stay informed on the local level... The shit that happens locally is the most dangerous.

Wind Dancer

(3,618 posts)
94. Oh FFS!
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:37 PM
Jan 2013

No, let's blame the people responsible. Try reading the damn article before making stupid statements.

Your comment makes no sense.

Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

indepat

(20,899 posts)
72. Can there be any doubt of the veracity of DHS's 2009 assessment that domestic right-wing extremist
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:50 PM
Jan 2013

groups pose the greatest threat to our country, its people and government, a threat even great than posed by Islamic extremists? And yes, the Republican-controlled legislatures across the country which have passed a passel of rotten ALEC-written laws and retained control of the U.S. House of Representatives through pissy gerrymandering, are, imo, domestic right-wing extremist groups. The threat is real and ever present.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
74. Please write and tell them your views!!
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:42 PM
Jan 2013

Governor of Virginia Bob McDonnell
Patrick Henry Building, 3rd Floor
1111 East Broad Street
Richmond, Virginia 23219

Republican Party of Virginia
115 East Grace Street
Richmond, Virginia 23219

napi21

(45,806 posts)
101. Unfortunately, un.ess you live in Va. they don't GAS!
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 05:00 PM
Jan 2013

I'd be HAPPY to write to both of the contacts you listed, but I've tried doing things like that before, and have heard many times from local and Fed. politicians that if you aren't one of a politician's "voters" they don't bother to even read your letter (or email). Many of the members of the US Congress woon't even let you email their office if you aren't in their state or district.

Beowulf42

(206 posts)
78. The Reality.
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 05:19 PM
Jan 2013

The reality, in the near term, is this would protect, prohibit, isolate the republicans from actually facing the very demographic factors they should be paying heed to in order to survive over the next 20 - 30 years. Sounds like the dinosaurs praying for more asteroid strikes.

H2O Man

(73,636 posts)
82. In this instance,
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 06:10 PM
Jan 2013

I would suggest that "mold never sleeps."

I think it is something the Democrats will need to seek relief from in the courts.

Thank you for this. Recommendation #176.

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
83. I wonder why black Americans don't trust the GOP?
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 06:54 PM
Jan 2013

Crooked redistricting and honoring Stonewall Jackson instead of MLK on MLK Day. Hmmmm. . .

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
90. I wonder if the blue portions of Virginia could seperate
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 08:58 PM
Jan 2013

Let the red fucksticks fend for themselves.

 
91. How predictable that the GOP would resort to these tactics
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:00 PM
Jan 2013

But then I remember what happened back in 2000. Ever since then, it seems democracy in this country has gone the way of the dodo. I really hope the American people will wake up and realize the dirty actions that the GOP is committing.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
100. Write!
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:22 PM
Jan 2013

My letter is in the mail this morning.

Republican Party of Virginia
115 East Grace Street
Richmond, VA 23219

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