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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 02:48 PM Jan 2013

Can somebody explain why Feinstein's proposed AWB bans bullet buttons?

They seem like an awesome idea to me, as I understand them: it means you have to use a screwdriver to change magazines, so reloading takes significantly more time.

What's the issue? This seems like win-win: a modification to a rifle makes it much more difficult to fire a large amount of bullets in a short amount of time. This seems like the sort of thing Feinstein would like. Is the problem that the button makes it technically a fixed magazine weapon? Why would we want to ban that rather than encourage it?

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Can somebody explain why Feinstein's proposed AWB bans bullet buttons? (Original Post) Recursion Jan 2013 OP
Well instead of slotting the driver and twisting... TheMightyFavog Jan 2013 #1
I think this is what is meant by that Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #2
Because pro gun people like it ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #3
It's because it circumvents the fixed magazine requirement Revanchist Jan 2013 #4
So it's "fixed" but not sufficiently fixed for these purposes? Recursion Jan 2013 #5
I believe (not positive because I no longer live in Cali) Revanchist Jan 2013 #6

TheMightyFavog

(13,770 posts)
1. Well instead of slotting the driver and twisting...
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 03:01 PM
Jan 2013

IIRC, you just use a bullet or a similar tool to push the button (Kinda like the recessed button you use on your wristwatch to set the time)

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
2. I think this is what is meant by that
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 03:02 PM
Jan 2013


another attempt that just a minor change will bypass. I am sure they are all removed in California.

that is another reason the assault weapon ban will fail if imposed again

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
3. Because pro gun people like it
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 03:04 PM
Jan 2013

Some enterprising person also put out a tool that can be mounted in the bullet button and then the intent is bypassed. Possession of that tool is not illegal, but permanent mounting to the rifle is considered an illegal modification by the CADOJ

Revanchist

(1,375 posts)
4. It's because it circumvents the fixed magazine requirement
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 03:04 PM
Jan 2013

There was a recent debate over it in the Californian legislature. This story explains why they want to ban the bullet button.

[link:http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/09/25/fallout-in-sacramento-over-bill-to-ban-bullet-button/|

Edit: Looks like I was beaten to the punch while finding a link.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. So it's "fixed" but not sufficiently fixed for these purposes?
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 03:30 PM
Jan 2013

Still, the concept seems to have some merit; slow down the changing of magazines.

Revanchist

(1,375 posts)
6. I believe (not positive because I no longer live in Cali)
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 03:36 PM
Jan 2013

that having a removable magazine of any form in addition to certain other features circumvents the state's law.

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