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chieftain

(3,222 posts)
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 12:15 PM Jan 2013

"Obama must declare war on the Republican Party."

So says John Dickerson in an important article he has written for Slate regarding the President's approach to his second term. Although the language is on the hyperbolic side and pundits like David Brooks are likely to need a fainting couch while reading it, the article speaks the truth:
"The president who came into office speaking in lofty terms about bipartisanship and cooperation can only cement his legacy if he destroys the GOP. If he wants to transform American politics, he must go for the throat."
Check the article out at
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2013/01/barack_obama_s_second_inaugural_address_the_president_should_declare_war.html

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"Obama must declare war on the Republican Party." (Original Post) chieftain Jan 2013 OP
"he must go for the throat" Botany Jan 2013 #1
+1 Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #2
That's not where he's been up to now. randome Jan 2013 #7
Which is a damned shame. nt LWolf Jan 2013 #14
They call him no drama Obama for a reason Botany Jan 2013 #22
I wasn't referring to anger. I don't need temper tantrums. LWolf Jan 2013 #23
do not let the search for the perfect stop the coming of the good Botany Jan 2013 #24
I'm not searching for perfect. LWolf Jan 2013 #31
Well you have ..... Botany Jan 2013 #32
Some of those are good. LWolf Jan 2013 #33
Your dismissal of the ACA and elimination of Bin Laden are noted. chieftain Jan 2013 #37
I can only report LWolf Jan 2013 #43
But what has he done for us lately? chieftain Jan 2013 #34
Has President Obama done everything that I have wanted? Botany Jan 2013 #40
+1 chieftain Jan 2013 #41
Maybe he'll scratch Boehner's car when he washes it n/t leftstreet Jan 2013 #3
The amount of disdain for Obama from the left never ceases to amaze me. chieftain Jan 2013 #5
Oh knock it off leftstreet Jan 2013 #6
You're the one who used the imagery to demean him as a person. chieftain Jan 2013 #10
He demeaned us by using the imagery in the first place leftstreet Jan 2013 #18
Well I do agree with one thing you said. chieftain Jan 2013 #21
99% of this political mess is from the GOP. Maybe it's easier for some to blame the black guy. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #9
Then why does the president continue to try to work with them? Doctor_J Jan 2013 #15
Oh give me a break. MirrorAshes Jan 2013 #35
"Must declare war" in a nutshell....what is wrong with our country..... AnOhioan Jan 2013 #4
Maybe a nice map Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2013 #20
Hopefully he has a copy of Sun Tzu's The Art of War around the house. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #8
I believe he was a quick study of Sun Tzu Brother Buzz Jan 2013 #38
Exactly n/t chieftain Jan 2013 #39
Yup. GoCubsGo Jan 2013 #42
That type of wording does nothing to move us forward Marrah_G Jan 2013 #11
Actually, destroying the Repukes would be a major step forward Doctor_J Jan 2013 #16
so far, Obama has not shown he is even close to quinnox Jan 2013 #12
Anyone recall that article.. DearAbby Jan 2013 #13
There is already a war, but the Republicans are only foot soldiers. rhett o rick Jan 2013 #17
Whatever Clausewitz may say, war is a bad metaphor for politics (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #19
Agreed. chieftain Jan 2013 #25
Fucking THIS. WilliamPitt Jan 2013 #26
"Smiling, but with his arms crossed." BeyondGeography Jan 2013 #27
RIP THEIR LUNGS OUT WilliamPitt Jan 2013 #28
May the President declare war on and destroy what is perhaps the greatest threat to our indepat Jan 2013 #29
hmm. good idea.. maybe we DO need to be armed to the teeth! flamingdem Jan 2013 #30
He's got the iron fist wrapped in a velvet glove. MirrorAshes Jan 2013 #36
WARLORD OBAMA MUST SLAKE HIS THIRST DRINKING THE BLOOD OF EVERY REPUBLICAN datasuspect Jan 2013 #44
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
7. That's not where he's been up to now.
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 01:23 PM
Jan 2013

Because up to now, it would have been counter-productive. But perhaps, with the GOP weakened and reeling, he may see the opportunity.

I've been in favor of Obama being patient no matter what. But I think it would be foolish not to deliver the KO when the time is right.

The time may be right now.

Botany

(70,546 posts)
22. They call him no drama Obama for a reason
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 05:04 PM
Jan 2013

I worked for obama in 2008 and 2012 and people who should know
told me that getting angry in public is one thing he does not do .....
he gets upset in private* but he holds his tongue in public ..... say
what you want but that has worked very well for him and the American
people up to now.


* just like everybody else.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
23. I wasn't referring to anger. I don't need temper tantrums.
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 05:13 PM
Jan 2013

I need to see strong, energetic, decisive words and actions to defend, support, uphold, and expand progress on left of center, non-corporate priorities.

Rather than continuing to reach out to and "compromise" with the people destroying the country, while keeping the left under the bus, thus allowing corporatization to continue to metastasize throughout the nation.

Botany

(70,546 posts)
24. do not let the search for the perfect stop the coming of the good
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 05:22 PM
Jan 2013

.... the man has done an amazing job so far and continues to do so
today.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
31. I'm not searching for perfect.
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 08:00 PM
Jan 2013

I'm searching for good.

I have a different set of criteria for "good" or "amazing" than some.

Botany

(70,546 posts)
32. Well you have .....
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 08:13 PM
Jan 2013

Lilly Ledbetter act, ending don't ask don't tell, killing bin Laden, saving the
auto industry, going from losing 750,000 jobs a month to 32 straight
months of job growth, health care reform, out of Iraq, a stimulus package
that stopped another great depression, public support for gay marriage,
wall street reform (although not enough), a lot more despite non
stop obstructionism, getting the big nuclear weapon holding powers
to agree to heavy cuts in warheads and plutonium, $20 billion from
BP for the gulf clean up, 2 women on the SCOTUS, more for the GLBT
community then all the previous Presidents combined, and a national
day of community service (today) in which thousands (including me) worked
to make America a better place.

http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
33. Some of those are good.
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 08:20 PM
Jan 2013

Some you've exaggerated. We didn't get health care reform, for example. We got health insurance reform, and I've been getting LESS care because my premiums shot so high I had to keep downgrading my coverage, downgrading what was covered, and have seen my deductible go through the roof. While I'm glad some places in the nation are recovering, my area continues to experience job LOSS. As a matter of fact, last spring every single home listed for sale in my area was a short sale.

Some were not high on my priority list; killing bin laden wasn't on my priority list at all.

The items highest on my priority list don't appear anywhere on your list. They were never on the table at all.

chieftain

(3,222 posts)
37. Your dismissal of the ACA and elimination of Bin Laden are noted.
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 09:36 PM
Jan 2013

The fact is that Obamacare will have a significant and lasting impact on health care in the US. Its commitment to community health centers is but one example, see http://bphc.hrsa.gov/about/healthcenterfactsheet.pdf
As to your comment about rising premiums you should be aware that 2012 was the third straight year of historically low increases in the United States. The 3.9 percent increase meant health care costs grew in line with the overall economy in 2011 instead of surging ahead as they normally have during a recovery. One of the main goals of the ACA is to bend the cost curve of health care and it would seem to be working.
I understand you, W and Mitt thought Bin Laden elimination was unimportant but it meant a lot to huge portions of this country.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
43. I can only report
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 12:52 PM
Jan 2013

that I pay more, and get less care, under the ACA. The fact is that one of the fastest ways to narrow the economic gap in this country would be to implement a universal, not-for-profit national system. And that wasn't even on the table for discussion when the ACA was crafted. Instead, it's all about private insurance, not affordable CARE. Insurance companies are still profiting and people are still struggling to pay for health care.

Osama bin laden? I never supported the bogus "war on terror." I always saw it for what it was. I never allowed emotion to blind me to the political manipulation surrounding 9/11. Comparing me to W and Mitt is ludicrous. I don't know about Mitt; I didn't give him enough of my attention to know much of what he had to say. W? He used going after bin laden to bankrupt this nation. He obviously thought it was important. I wish fewer Democrats had agreed with him.

chieftain

(3,222 posts)
34. But what has he done for us lately?
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 08:26 PM
Jan 2013

Oh yeah stared down the GOP in their attempt to trigger a second recession while taking on the NRA. Call me out for having low standards, but I am well pleased with our President and expect great things from the second term.

Botany

(70,546 posts)
40. Has President Obama done everything that I have wanted?
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 01:06 AM
Jan 2013

Ah, no* but overall he is the best President in my lifetime and when
you consider the shit sandwich he inherited coming into office he has
done pretty damn good. God knows where we would be if the republicans
were the old fashioned type who cared about getting the job done and
what is best for America.


* But he is way smarter then I am so I will cut him a break.



BTW it has been years but as a parent I know you can not fake this love.

chieftain

(3,222 posts)
5. The amount of disdain for Obama from the left never ceases to amaze me.
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 01:14 PM
Jan 2013

I take it you are proud of using imagery that is so demeaning to the man that Obama is.

leftstreet

(36,110 posts)
6. Oh knock it off
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 01:18 PM
Jan 2013

Are you so uninformed you don't know that Obama stated he'd wash Boehner's car if it meant reaching a compromise?

Apparently he was making a joke. I was also joking.

But if you're serious, we could talk about the amount of Obama's disdain for his base of Democratic voters...

leftstreet

(36,110 posts)
18. He demeaned us by using the imagery in the first place
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 04:32 PM
Jan 2013

Millions of people are struggling, there are no jobs, wages have stagnated for decades, people are losing their homes - but politicians yuk it up talking about washing cars?

Please

chieftain

(3,222 posts)
21. Well I do agree with one thing you said.
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 04:41 PM
Jan 2013

" Oh knock it off". Obama's wry comment on what he would do to avoid spiraling down into a second recession is hardly demeaning to you or the country.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
15. Then why does the president continue to try to work with them?
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 02:16 PM
Jan 2013

I agree that they are the problem, which is why the OP is dead on. They need to be destroyed.

MirrorAshes

(1,262 posts)
35. Oh give me a break.
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 08:41 PM
Jan 2013

Explain it away however you like, but comments like that are far more revealing than you may realize.

AnOhioan

(2,894 posts)
4. "Must declare war" in a nutshell....what is wrong with our country.....
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 01:00 PM
Jan 2013

The use of the term "war" is just fucking casual......and we wonder why the use of drones is considered justified....why the murder of schoolchildren is whitewashed under the guise of "our rights to carry lethal weapons". Stop the planet....I wanna get off.

Brother Buzz

(36,449 posts)
38. I believe he was a quick study of Sun Tzu
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 09:45 PM
Jan 2013

Right now, I like to think Obama is reflecting on Napoleon's words:

[font size ="4"]Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.[/font size ="4"]

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
42. Yup.
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 11:48 AM
Jan 2013

And, never interrupt your enemy when they are fighting amongst themselves. Why should he declare war on the GOP, when the GOP is self-immolating? All he needs to do is toss a little gasoline on that fire every once in a while. And, it looks to me like that's what he has been doing all along.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
16. Actually, destroying the Repukes would be a major step forward
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 02:17 PM
Jan 2013

We will see if Obama is up to it.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
12. so far, Obama has not shown he is even close to
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 01:43 PM
Jan 2013

That kind of bold and decisive leadership. Cautious and compromising is a very far planet from declaring war on the gop.

DearAbby

(12,461 posts)
13. Anyone recall that article..
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 01:45 PM
Jan 2013

about Obama saying he would take it to the people, as a threat? (during the fiscal cliff) that inside piece of the negotiations. Thinking on that, and reading this piece....The worst thing a worm wants is sunlight. Obama will use his best talent, community organizing, and sunlight. Keep twisting the screws. I agree with this article.

Lets watch what happens.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
17. There is already a war, but the Republicans are only foot soldiers.
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 03:25 PM
Jan 2013

Eliminating them will not win the war.

chieftain

(3,222 posts)
25. Agreed.
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 05:58 PM
Jan 2013

I said in the OP that the language of the article was somewhat hyperbolic. If folks refuse to be put off by the over the top language and actually read the article, they will see a strategy that many of us hope that the President will adopt. Ironically, Dickerson's prescription for the second term is the flip side of the coin that has so terrified David Brooks. The thought of a strong president pushing popular constructive measures that not only help the country but act as a wedge between the GOP's irrational and semi-rational wings has conservatives hacks and flacks very worried. The referenced article presents the case in an effective manner and I again recommend that folks read it. It might even be appreciated by the knee-jerk lefty critics of the President. I doubt it will stifle their nattering but one can hope.

BeyondGeography

(39,377 posts)
27. "Smiling, but with his arms crossed."
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 06:17 PM
Jan 2013

I think the author believes Obama is going into his second term with a clear head and meaningful goals. I'm less worried about the President than the combination of R intransigence and nervous D Senators facing rough elections in 2014.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
28. RIP THEIR LUNGS OUT
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 06:35 PM
Jan 2013

Rip Their Lungs Out
by William Rivers Pitt

03/17/2002

In 1988, in a hotel lobby near the New Orleans-hosted Republican National
Convention, Tom DeLay held a press conference to defend the military service
record of George Herbert Walker Bush's Vice Presidential pick, J. Danforth
Quayle. The press had begun to focus on the fact that Quayle had apparently
used family influence to avoid serving in the Vietnam War, and had instead
defended the bucolic splendor of Indiana from being overrun by the Viet Cong
as a member of the National Guard.

DeLay did not bring up the awful confusion of those days. He did not speak
of fear, nor did he mention loopholes created by influential family connections.
Instead, DeLay offered what could go down as perhaps the most novel excuse
for draft-dodging ever spouted by an American in the entire history of the nation.
Mr. Quayle was prevented from military service, claimed DeLay, because of all
the minorities who had volunteered ahead of him. All the spots were gone when
patriots like Quayle sought to serve, taken by ethnics seeking the excellent pay
to be found in a life within the armed services.

The members of the press who assembled to hear this remarkable explanation
did not know that Mr. DeLay felt the slings and arrows raining down on Quayle
in a most personal way. DeLay came of service age in 1970, but somehow found
his way into the bug-killing business instead. The assumption that the communist-killing
business had no purchase within him, however, was put to rest in that lobby. DeLay
and Quayle wanted to serve, but the Negroes were just too fast for them.

Never mind that the Houston Post claimed in 1988 that Delay avoided enlisting
at the urging of his wife, yet another amazing excuse. For guys like Tom, it's always
about the minorities at the head of the line.

If this is the first time you have heard this tale, do not castigate yourself for failing
to pay attention. You did not know this because you never heard it repeated
ad nauseam on a nationally syndicated radio show. You did not know this
because no Senator or Congressperson on the Left took to the TV talking head
circuit to pound this nail in front of every camera they could find. You did not
know this because no syndicated liberal columnist mentioned it on a weekly
basis in every newspaper from sea to shining sea.

You did not know this because it was a sword left hanging in its scabbard.
If the situation were reversed, and a Democrat had dared utter such a farcical
excuse for an excuse, rest assured that the sword would have been drawn and
would have found meat to cleave. Yet this rhetorical bumper crop given into the
hands of Democrats has gone un-reaped for fourteen years, repeated only in the
smallest of circles and never given the prime-time airing it deserves.

In this time of darkness and war, there has been much chest-thumping from
conservatives regarding the true definition of patriotism. When Senators like
Tom Daschle and John Kerry stand on their constitutional duties and ask where
this apparently rudderless war is headed, when they seek a definition of victory,
when they wonder why Osama bin Laden has eluded capture, they are dunned
as traitors by Republicans who claim to occupy the high moral ground.

John Kerry served in Vietnam. He earned a Silver Star, a Bronze Star and was
three times awarded the Purple Heart for wounds received in battle. His detractors
- Trent Lott, Dick Cheney, Dick Armey, George W. Bush, to name a few - avoided
service in that conflict through deferments and powerful family contacts. There is
ample evidence that Bush himself didn't bother to show up for the final year of his
stint guarding the coastline of Texas from Viet Cong invasion. That these men dare
impugn the patriotism and honor of a man like John Kerry bends the definition of
hypocrisy into bold new shapes.

Do not abuse yourself if some of this information is new to you. Do not let the fact
that George W. Bush, Dick Armey, Dick Cheney, Bill Bennett, Pat Buchanan,
Newt Gingrich, Tom DeLay, Phil Gramm, Jack Kemp, Dan Quayle, Trent Lott,
Pat Robertson, Ken Starr and George Will all managed to evade military duty,
even if many of these men later lambasted Bill Clinton for the same offense.
How could you know? These bullets were left mostly unfired in the last ten years
of American political debate.

There is a war being fought across what Kerouac called the great bulge of
America. Like any war, it requires funding. Such has been provided to ideological
conservatives by men like Richard Mellon Scaife, heir to the Mellon Bank fortune.
Scaife has spent upwards of $300 million funding right-wing newspapers, think tanks
and other groups, and was the principal source of funding for those engaged in the
jihad against Bill Clinton.

Scaife is motivated by a deep and resounding hatred of all things Left, a hate that
bloomed during the upheaval of the 1960's. In many ways, Scaife's influence within
conservative circles today is a reminder that the bloody business of that bygone era
is not yet finished. Scaife is still fighting the protesters who dogged the Vietnam War.
The fact that many of his contemporary conservative avatars dodged service in that
conflict is merely an accent in the symphony of hypocrisy which serves as the score
to this decades-old battle.

Scaife's politics found purchase within the hearts of those ideological
conservatives who conspired to take over the Republican Party in the wake of
Goldwater's defeat in 1964. By 1980 they had a champion in Ronald Reagan,
and the days of a moderate GOP were done. The conservative world became one
where the rainbow only shined in black and white, where anyone not 100%
dedicated to any cause that sought to engage Communism, no matter how
nefarious, was open to charges of treason.

The fall of the Soviet Union heralded a time of crisis among ideological
conservative ranks. There was no longer an Evil Empire, no great enemy
abroad to fight tooth and nail. That which defined this cadre had ceased to
exist. Knives still drawn, these conservatives sought a new enemy. They
found one soon enough. They found the American Left.

It began with the thwarting of Robert Bork's nomination to the Supreme
Court, and bloomed into a full-fledged Movement when Clarence Thomas faced a
similar challenge. An army of conservatives, funded by men like Scaife, came
to the conclusion that fighting fair was no longer an option. They would do
whatever was necessary, distort whatever facts they could find, shriek
whatever half-truth was available, all the while ignoring the flagrant
hypocrisy represented by the yawning chasm between their words and their
deeds, to further their political agenda and subvert the standing of any
liberal within sight.

Consider the case of Rush Limbaugh, whose conservative radio show went
national in 1988. Twice divorced with a reputation for extramarital
dalliances, an avoider of church, Limbaugh nevertheless parlayed a career
that began in comedy into a truly formidable force in American politics.
Limbaugh, another victim of minority crowding in the lines headed for
Vietnam, presents himself as the moral voice for the nation. He has lied
many times along the way, once claiming that no one was indicted in the
Iran-Contra scandal (there were fourteen indictments), and once stating that
Congress had failed to support President Bush during the Gulf War (both
Houses backed the President in the conflict).

Rush would be foolish if he were not so powerful - millions of people listen
to his show daily on 450 different stations - and if weighty officeholders
like Newt Gingrich (who, it should be noted, has smoked marijuana, dodged
the Vietnam draft, and divorced his wife while she lay sick in bed with
cancer) had not stolen pages from his playbook. Rush, Gingrich, and the
cavalcade of conservative assassins who pollute the politics of the country
do so from no moral high ground, but from a desire to win at any cost.

Gingrich, for example, made a point through his political action committee
(GOPAC) to disseminate among the ranks of fellow conservatives an action
memo instructing them to associate liberals with words like "stupid,"
"corrupt," "anti-family" and "traitor." Someone once said that politics was
the art of compromise. In this war, such thoughts were left by the side of
the road with the cigarette butts. Scaife, Limbaugh, Gingrich and the rest
of the officers in this conservative army have no use for compromise.

Yet here is the rub. This war has been waged against the Left for well over
a decade. Concepts such as environmentalism, women's rights, racial equality
and even the good use of government in the lives of the people have been
denigrated almost unto dust. These ideas have not suffered because they are
poor ideas in and of themselves; they have suffered because they are equated
with liberals, and are therefore considered cannon fodder in this war. This
makes the fight pertinent to the lives of every breathing American, because
ideas that would vastly improve this American life are being gutted in a
partisan war that has little to do with what is best for the people.
It has become all about power, plain and simple.

In this fight, liberals have been woefully inadequate in pressing their side.
Perhaps the Left considers itself above such prurient tactics. Perhaps the
Left is too interested in an intellectual debate of the facts, and cannot fathom
an enemy that uses fact the way a cat uses litter. Simply blaming corporate
/conservative media is not sufficient; it took Limbaugh fourteen years to
gain his current standing. He got it because he let the sword find meat,
and did not fear the knife fighting required of modern politics. There is a
lesson here about media appetites the Left could well learn from.

America suffered a terrible blow on September 11th, one that came after
these same conservatives spent eight years cutting the legs out from under a
sitting President in a $70 million effort that spent Federal energy better used
in other areas. These same conservatives, after gaining power in an election
that could be called questionable at best, an election in which they once again
stooped to mob action and fact distortion to gain an edge against liberal rivals
who did not seem to have the stomach for a fight, would now use the horror
of 9/11 to exterminate forever the standing of the American liberal for all time.

Given all that is at stake, the time has come for the American Left to rise
up and finally, finally, engage in this war with full and complete commitment.
For too long the Left has sought the intellectual high ground, and has left the
trenches to those who care little for well-crafted arguments. In ten short years,
the Left has lost a generation's worth of ground. It must be taken back.

Never let a man like Tom DeLay get away with the lame excuses he offered for
his absence during the Vietnam conflict, for it was proven that he will capitalize
on similar actions taken by a Democrat for gain and be damned to the
contradictions. Never let a mouthpiece like Limbaugh pretend to be the voice
of morality in America when his lifestyle proves him a hypocrite. Never let a
charlatan like George W. Bush speak of patriotism while he pushes a
conservative agenda cloaked in the fog of an ill-defined war.

If you have a liberal bone in your body, then you have a dog in this fight.
These people, who have spent the last ten years shattering every rule of
decency and truth in an effort to gain power for the sake of power itself and
to avenge grudges held since the days of Abbe Hoffman, cannot be trusted
to shepherd this country through this time of trial. There is too much at stake
for people of such thin moral fiber to be allowed to run unchecked anymore.

Forget what you know of fair play. Leave aside notions of decency. Ignore
hypocrisy and scream at the top of your lungs until they burst. The soul of
this nation is at stake, the culture war continues unabated, and it is time for
the Left to storm the battlements. It is past time. If you are cowed by tall
Presidential ratings, you are of no use. If you have no stomach for a dirty fight,
you aid the enemy. If you cannot take joy in the sound of a sword striking
meat and drawing blood, step aside.

Believe that a liberal government can defend this nation while helping its
citizens. Believe that a liberal President can be strong and sound. Believe
that liberal policies foster a healthy economy. Believe these things because
they are true. Believe that the conservatives who would call such truths
lies do so for no other reason than to grasp, maintain and augment their
power, for this is true as well.

Let the word go forth in this time and place that there are some things worth
fighting for. The Right has known this for years, and has capitalized on it to
our common woe. Unless we do the same, we shall indeed earn the title of traitor.

http://www.bartcop.com/031702pitt.htm

indepat

(20,899 posts)
29. May the President declare war on and destroy what is perhaps the greatest threat to our
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 07:03 PM
Jan 2013

country and the world, i.e., civilization itself (mankind).

MirrorAshes

(1,262 posts)
36. He's got the iron fist wrapped in a velvet glove.
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 08:46 PM
Jan 2013

I forget who I first heard say that back in 2008, but I've always believed it to be true. I think now we're seeing the glove come off.

And it's a beautiful thing

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
44. WARLORD OBAMA MUST SLAKE HIS THIRST DRINKING THE BLOOD OF EVERY REPUBLICAN
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 12:54 PM
Jan 2013

MAN, WOMAN, AND CHILD.

HE MUST DESTROY THE RED STATES THAT BORE THEM UNTIL NOT ONE SINGLE BLADE OF GRASS WILL GROW FOR 1,000 YEARS.

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