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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 03:42 AM Jan 2013

Maher: ‘It’s not your Second Amendment rights that are under attack — it’s all the other ones’

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Maher: ‘It’s not your Second Amendment rights that are under attack — it’s all the other ones’

By Samantha Kimmey
Saturday, January 19, 2013

During the last segment of Bill Maher’s show on Friday, he criticized both gun owners and liberals who appeared not to care that the majority of our civil liberties have been compromised as they duke it out over gun control.

“New rule: someone has to tell America’s gun nuts to stop wetting their amy surplus pants about losing the Second Amendment. It’s not your Second Amendment rights that are under attack — it’s all the other ones,” he began.

He went on to say that last month, the Senate voted to reauthorize a program that can “collect data on any American citizen and hold onto it forever. They can look at your emails, your texts, your Skypes, and not a peep out the crowd that’s always bitching about what the framers intended. In fact, the answer from almost everyone seems to be, ‘Oh what the hell, the airport screeners have already seen my ass anyway.’”

“Call me old school, but I don’t want the feds googling what I’m googling. It’s bad enough when Netflix pries into my private life. ‘You watched the Walking Dead and Zombieland. You might also like this interview with John McCain.’”

“Doesn’t anyone care that this is the new normal? I guess not, because gun nuts don’t care and neither do liberals,” he said, reminding liberals that they accused Bush of “wiping his ass with the constitution” for the warrantless wiretapping program but seem to have no problem’s with Obama doing the same thing."

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Maher: ‘It’s not your Second Amendment rights that are under attack — it’s all the other ones’ (Original Post) Hissyspit Jan 2013 OP
So true. 1springhill Jan 2013 #1
This is called "normalization". If it occurs silently, or in increments, we can get used to it Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #2
I read in the paper yesterday that the Supremes will be hearing a case Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #14
The difference is that Obama is a Constitutional scholar so he knows what is proper and right Fumesucker Jan 2013 #3
No, he's the President. And none of them ever give back power. On either side. nt TeamPooka Jan 2013 #4
Yep. harmonicon Jan 2013 #6
And the worst part of that line is that cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #9
K&R. Bill Maher is, as usual, right, right, right. Smart guy. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #5
Americans willing gave up their freedom shortly after 9/11 stultusporcos Jan 2013 #7
DURec for Bill Maher! bvar22 Jan 2013 #8
as much as I dislike Maher I have to admit, he is exactly right on this one. 1-Old-Man Jan 2013 #10
Really? I hear fellow Liberals complaining about that all the time. Unless he's talking about media. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #11
I think he misspoke. Liberals continue to fight for basic human rights. Many conserva-dems rhett o rick Jan 2013 #15
There's nothing I can't do now that I couldn't do before. Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #12
Oh dear god. Hissyspit Jan 2013 #16
Freedom not to be killed by your government despite not being charged with any crime, among others. BlueCheese Jan 2013 #17
That was exactly right. Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #13
Bingo. nt lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #18
Thank you, Bill Maher! Cha Jan 2013 #19
 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
2. This is called "normalization". If it occurs silently, or in increments, we can get used to it
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 03:50 AM
Jan 2013

and not fight it.

Yes, FISA was just extended for another five years. The NDAA, with its provision for the indefinite detention of US citizens without trial or representation was just signed into another year of activity. March in protest against a bank and you'll quickly learn that the 1st and 4th Amendments are gone.

And as is being lamented on Twitter, all anyone can talk about is bicycle drugs.

This doesn't even touch upon the international corporate group TPP making laws for everyone, and ALEC doing the same here at home.

Where's my Democracy? Where's your outrage?

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
14. I read in the paper yesterday that the Supremes will be hearing a case
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 04:51 PM
Jan 2013

to determine whether a suspect's silence before he is Mirandized and charged can be used against him in court to show his guilt. So there goes the Fifth Amendment, as well, if they concur.


The case is Salinas v. Texas. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/12/us/supreme-court-takes-up-first-and-fifth-amendment-cases.html?_r=0

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
3. The difference is that Obama is a Constitutional scholar so he knows what is proper and right
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 03:56 AM
Jan 2013

IOKIYACS

It's OK if you're a Constitutional scholar.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
6. Yep.
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 05:41 AM
Jan 2013

I remember having any number of arguments around here in 2008 about how it was very important that Congress knocked-down a lot of Bush's bullshit, because the next president would carry it on. I was told, "oh, no, it will be a Democrat, and they won't do that." Of course they'll do that, and even if nothing bad happens from it in their time, they're only further setting precedent that it's something ok to do.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
9. And the worst part of that line is that
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 04:31 PM
Jan 2013

a typical case before the Supreme Court features some constitutional scholars arguing opposite sides.

And Scalia would kick Obama's butt in a contest of Constitutional Scholarship... so who cares?

 

stultusporcos

(327 posts)
7. Americans willing gave up their freedom shortly after 9/11
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 06:50 AM
Jan 2013

For the illusion of security and only a few complained

This is the result and the new normal

If people were really angry millions would be in the streets daily but sadly the sheep will just stay in the barn and do what they are told.

Embrace the Fascist Polics State America, it is here to stay unless a major changes occurs and that is not going to happen anytime soon!

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
8. DURec for Bill Maher!
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 02:40 PM
Jan 2013

..thought I disagree with him in one area.
He broad brushes all Democrats as "Liberals".
Nothing could be farther from the truth,
and getting farther from the truth every day.

Liberals DO have a problem with our President in these areas.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
11. Really? I hear fellow Liberals complaining about that all the time. Unless he's talking about media.
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 04:38 PM
Jan 2013
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
15. I think he misspoke. Liberals continue to fight for basic human rights. Many conserva-dems
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 06:37 PM
Jan 2013

are ok with Pres Obama's continuing the Bush assault. The best argument I can get from the conserva-dems is that they "trust" the president.

 

Comrade_McKenzie

(2,526 posts)
12. There's nothing I can't do now that I couldn't do before.
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 04:41 PM
Jan 2013

I'm not sure what freedoms we have lost. People talk about it in the abstract, but I bet they can't name one way it has personally affected them.

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