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OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:09 PM Jan 2013

Would you favor congressional term limits?

Throw the bums out: 75 percent back Congress term limits Yahoo News
Sure, voters sent a majority of incumbent members of Congress back to Washington in November 2012. But a new Gallup poll finds that 75 percent of Americans support imposing term limits on lawmakers in D.C.

Twenty-one percent would vote against a law limiting the number of terms representatives and senators can serve.


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I don't favor term limits.
5 (71%)
4 terms for Senators/12 terms for House members
0 (0%)
3 terms for Senators/9 terms for House members
0 (0%)
2 terms for Senators/6 terms for House members
1 (14%)
1 term in the Senate/3 terms for House members
0 (0%)
Other - and no, you can't just limit terms for Cantor, Foxx, Bachmann, & Boehner (nice try, though)
1 (14%)
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Would you favor congressional term limits? (Original Post) OmahaBlueDog Jan 2013 OP
No. Here in California term limits on our state-level offices have created unintended consequences slackmaster Jan 2013 #1
They made an interesting mistake here in Nebraska OmahaBlueDog Jan 2013 #2
Word! Brother Buzz Jan 2013 #3
No, no, no, no. Ask Californians how well that is working here Hekate Jan 2013 #4
I hope everyone reads your post because that is exactly what happens. Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #8
We have term limits they are called elections dsc Jan 2013 #5
Louis Gohmert, for example, is completely immune to that form of term limit Stinky The Clown Jan 2013 #17
so what dsc Jan 2013 #18
It is a compromise. We are harmed more by the army of Gohmerts than we are helped by . . . . Stinky The Clown Jan 2013 #19
No - every two years the Congressperson can be removed. karynnj Jan 2013 #6
Only at the federal level where a career politician can do some real harm. Rex Jan 2013 #7
See my post #4 about California. Term limits are a lobbyist's wet dream Hekate Jan 2013 #9
Then we need to do away with seniority meaning everything. Rex Jan 2013 #11
So then you have to change the US Constitution. Try ALEC Hekate Jan 2013 #12
Nope. Rex Jan 2013 #13
Either get the politicians out of the money or the money out of politics. Stinky The Clown Jan 2013 #10
Right now, the longer they stay, the more invested they get on committees OmahaBlueDog Jan 2013 #14
Yes, I agree. Those are some of the more subtle aspects of the issue. Stinky The Clown Jan 2013 #16
75% of Americans support it. I won't stand in their way. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #15
Do we really want to trade... bobclark86 Jan 2013 #20
I don't favor term limits for Congress... ellisonz Jan 2013 #21
The term for house seats needs to be lengthened Morning Dew Jan 2013 #22
 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
1. No. Here in California term limits on our state-level offices have created unintended consequences
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:13 PM
Jan 2013

Inability of individual legislators to gain sufficient experience to fully realize their potential as lawmakers, and the creation of pseudo-apostolic succession dynasties in which successors are hand-picked. Combined with our heavily gerrymandered senate and assembly districts, it's almost impossible for someone with truly new ideas to get into office.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
2. They made an interesting mistake here in Nebraska
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:16 PM
Jan 2013

..or maybe it wasn't a "mistake."

In our Unicam (out state legislature) there are term limits, but once yu're out for two years, you get to run again and start over. Ernie Chambers, a well known and controversial representative from North Omaha was term-limited out, but just retook his old seat.

Hekate

(90,758 posts)
4. No, no, no, no. Ask Californians how well that is working here
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:24 PM
Jan 2013

All our elected officials have just enough time to learn where the restrooms are, and then they are out. The ones with initiative become lobbyists, and the LOBBYISTS know where everything is and how to get things done.

It's pure unadulterated crap, and I voted against it.

Here's the deal: the Constitution of the US and of every State provide term limits. They are called "elections."

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
8. I hope everyone reads your post because that is exactly what happens.
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:39 PM
Jan 2013

The newbies don't know how to write bills, they don't know how to create coalitions, and they don't know there way around the rules so they end up relying on corporate lobbyist "experts" to walk them through the process.

I have a link about a study somewhere and I will post it when I find it.

Stinky The Clown

(67,816 posts)
17. Louis Gohmert, for example, is completely immune to that form of term limit
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 12:47 AM
Jan 2013

So are most members of Congress.

We will probably always get the same sort of bozo in that seat, but at least it will be a different bozo for the lobbyists to find and pay.

dsc

(52,165 posts)
18. so what
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 12:50 AM
Jan 2013

I don't think we should give up the Barney Franks of this world, or the Ted Kennedys of this world because some backwater elects Gohmert.

Stinky The Clown

(67,816 posts)
19. It is a compromise. We are harmed more by the army of Gohmerts than we are helped by . . . .
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 12:55 AM
Jan 2013

. . . . . the exceptionals like Frank.

Hekate

(90,758 posts)
9. See my post #4 about California. Term limits are a lobbyist's wet dream
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:44 PM
Jan 2013

In the US House and Senate seniority means everything -- not just a lot, everything.

Aside from that, you'd have to change the US Constitution. Just use the electoral process for what it was intended to do.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
11. Then we need to do away with seniority meaning everything.
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:47 PM
Jan 2013

Doesn't work very well in the Army either. I like the idea of term limits at the federal level and Congress is a lobbyists wet dream RIGHT NOW.

If you cannot do it in 12 years, then you are not trying very hard imo.

Stinky The Clown

(67,816 posts)
10. Either get the politicians out of the money or the money out of politics.
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:45 PM
Jan 2013

Since we can't ungerrymander, kick the fuckers out. Some good goes, more bad goes. What we have now ain't working.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
14. Right now, the longer they stay, the more invested they get on committees
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:55 PM
Jan 2013

When they get on those committees, and stay on those committes (for years, and years, and years), the lobbyist money flows toward them. There's no real way to stop it. Once we had a press that went after that sort of thing; now they are too fixated on infotainment. So I think there's an argument that says get them out of office before their roots spread toward those vast pools of lobbyist money around Capitol Hill.

Stinky The Clown

(67,816 posts)
16. Yes, I agree. Those are some of the more subtle aspects of the issue.
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 12:44 AM
Jan 2013

It is all about disconnecting the money from politics. Since they on't clean up their house, kick them out and keep kicking them out until they stop the money.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
20. Do we really want to trade...
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 01:51 AM
Jan 2013

435 worthless long-term fucktards for 435 brand new ones who have even LESS of a clue every two years? That's 2,175 new fucktards every 10 years.

Yeah, I'll stick with the devil I know rather than five times as many I don't...

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