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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDon’t Believe The Media Hype: Obamacare Is Not Responsible For Double Digit Premium Hikes
For instance, Fridays Politico reported that premiums are increasing across the country as All those new consumer benefits packed into the health reform law birth control without a co-pay, free preventive care and limits on when insurers can turn down a customer had to be paid for somehow. Policy holders may experience 10 to 20 percent rate hikes, it warns, as insurers are working the health reform laws 2014 fees into their 2013 bills.
So how much is Obamacare responsible for? Five, maybe eight percent? The answer is less than two.
Insurers are arguing that the costs of Obamacares annual fee on the industry, its requirement that companies contribute to a reinsurance program, and new benefits and regulations have to be passed down to consumers. Theres a massive new health insurance tax that starts in 2014, Robert Zirkelbach, the spokesman for Americas Health Insurance Plans told Politico. For policies that are sold in 2013 and extend into next year, theres going to be taxes imposed. As a result, like all taxes, they will be reflected in premiums charged.
There are new costs in 2014, but they have little to do with reform. Consider the insurers own rate justification filings, in which companies have to substantiate the raises. Aetna in Pennsylvania, for instance, seeks to increase rates by an average of 16.49 percent, but as it explains in its filing, 63.18 percent of the increase is attributed to the cost of providing healthcare services to policyholders. The Affordable Care Act is responsible for a tiny portion of the increase:
Impact of New Taxes and Fees
The Affordable Care Act (ACA) includes several new taxes and fees payable in 2014, including two that specifically apply to insured products the health insurer fee and the reinsurance contribution. These new fees result in additional costs and are reflected in our updated rates for policies that extend into 2014. The overall impact of these costs on this filing is as follows:
* Health Insurer Fee: 1.0%
* Reinsurance Contribution: 0.5%
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/01/11/1435591/dont-believe-the-media-hype-obamacare-is-not-responsible-for-double-digit-premium-hikes/
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)So here we are.
Enjoy!
djean111
(14,255 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)plethoro
(594 posts)dddd
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)the needs of the corporations that are our health PARTNERS, as our partners, they deserve at least half our money to allow us to visit a doctor.
The richer they become, the more the health care will trickle down to us.
Where is your twin? HE understands this stuff.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Fair and square!
If we were wealthy enough to purchase a share of the health of our peons we would earn profit from allowing them to see their doctors and nurses as well.
It's all about WHO and how many people you own and who gets to set the bets!
As it should be;
remember owning a share of people isn't slavery, one must own the whole person for that, thank gawd if one has the money one can still purchase parts, even if those damn progressives made the proper purchase of the whole package illegal.
stake·hold·er (stkhldr)
n.
1. One who holds the bets in a game or contest.
2. One who has a share or an interest, as in an enterprise.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)And is off on a bender. I'm left to fend for myself until l get a call to post bail.
Thanks for setting me straight.
Loudly
(2,436 posts)I know which one I'd prefer.
onlyadream
(2,167 posts)We just bought private health insurance, rather than go on COBRA. This new insurance requires us to provide proof of uninterrupted coverage, or they'd have to start inquiring avout preexisting conditions. I thought this was a thing of the past, but then I searched and saw that the preexisting thing hasn't started yet. Is this something that happens next year?
underpants
(182,876 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I am looking at health insurance for my employees. we are a very small company. They asked for the gender, age, and if family would be on the policy. That is all they asked for in order to provide us with a quote. If we decide we want to use them, we will then fill out the full forms, including preexisting conditions. The quoted price can go up or down 15% from the quote. So, if an employee has a preexisting condition, the quoted price can go up no more than 15%, and the person cannot be rejected.
What got me was the difference in cost between women and men. It was quite shocking.
librabear
(85 posts)Between men and women in health care cost, and age too.
onlyadream
(2,167 posts)The difference between men and women?
About my new private insurance, it's actually so much better than our old company insurance and so much cheaper. I was surprised, thought I was being scammed.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)almost twice as much. We are also older than the male. I am sure that has something to do with it. Although I am not that much older.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)That indicates that the reform was inadequate and failed to address cost controls. The whole point was to create access, not to increase financial barriers to health care.
ramapo
(4,589 posts)Double digit premium hikes have been normal for well over a decade. It is almost a yearly event at our company. Near 20% is not abnormal. The only way we've kept insurance affordable (for employees and the company) is to reduce benefits, hike deductibles and copays. Unfortunately, Obamacare does little to nothing for small businesses that currently provide insurance in regards to either choice or cost relief.
Mister Ed
(5,943 posts)To those who claim Obamacare is driving recent double-digit premium hikes, I must ask: What was driving my annual double-digit premuium hikes before Obamacare?
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)altruism on the part of our corporate insurance overlords?
No way would they ever constantly raise rates on a client forced to buy their product!
Corporations are nice people that deserve (in our uniquely American system) to profit off our need for doctors and medicines, the Heritage Foundation and third way promised they were altruists!
Who would take my blood pressure, stitch my cuts, clean my wounds if not my insurance guy? What, you think it is doctors and nurses that do that?
No! The care givers are actuaries not those medical school vampires!
I refuse to believe the insurance companies are or would ever do this, those double digit increases are due to firebaggers and not the altruistic corporations!!!
CBHagman
(16,987 posts)...and on top of that the entire PPACA doesn't take full effect until 2014, so the cause-and-effect sequence hasn't been established here.