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demmiblue

(36,885 posts)
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:20 AM Jan 2013

The Steubenville Rape Case's Party Host Has His Sports Scholarship Under Review

Source: The Atlantic Wire



The Steubenville rape case is rapidly broadening in blame to include more of what the hackers at Anonymous and LocalLeaks have dubbed the "Rape Crew," as Kent State University became the second college to publicly acknowledge it's paying close attention. The school is now reviewing the status of an accepted student athlete who played for the Steubenville High football team — and may have hosted the party where the alleged rape took place.

On Saturday, the day after Ohio State University made note of Michael Nodianos and his viral video commenting on the alleged incident, Kent State posted the following message on its Facebook page: "University leaders are aware of the developing investigation in Steubenville, and we are gathering information from the proper authorities." And over the weekend, Kent State officials told a local Patch site that "gathering information" means they're reviewing the status of a future student. "We understand the severity and the seriousness of the allegations, and as we collect more information we will take appropriate steps as warranted," a spokesman told Patch. "We are now following the developments from Steubenville very closely."

The future student in question is Charlie Keenan, a current senior at Steubenville High School. Keenan signed a letter of intent to wrestle for Kent State on scholarship in November — he played on the same football team as Trent Mays and Malik Richmond, who are currently facing charges as minors for raping a 16-year-old girl. (Mays's lawyer has moved to get his case postponed past its February 13 preliminary hearing date for ""what we perceive as threats to individuals.&quot According to the much discussed Steubenville Files put together by Anonymous and LocalLeaks, "One of the parties to which the unconscious victim of this horrible crime was dragged to took place at the Hanlin house." (Jane Hanlin is a prosecuting attorney in Jefferson County and Keenan's mother; Charlie Keenan Sr. is a former principal of Steubenville High, where he played football.)


http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/01/steubenville-rape-case-party-host/60656/
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The Steubenville Rape Case's Party Host Has His Sports Scholarship Under Review (Original Post) demmiblue Jan 2013 OP
A very wise move on the part of Kent State lunatica Jan 2013 #1
Not OSU, it's Kent State Tempest Jan 2013 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author sinkingfeeling Jan 2013 #8
Thanks for the correction. I've updated my post lunatica Jan 2013 #27
OSU has posted on their Face Book page that avebury Jan 2013 #40
Nothing on whether he withdrew or was told not to come back. n/t Tempest Jan 2013 #42
I'm glad that Kent State is taking this seriously. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2013 #2
his mom is the prosecutor d_r Jan 2013 #3
Her career is over Tempest Jan 2013 #5
As it should be. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2013 #9
I laugh every time I see your screen name Tempest Jan 2013 #11
It's one of my favorite shows, too. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2013 #12
BAZINGA! Tempest Jan 2013 #13
I'm a little confused... Sheldon Cooper Jan 2013 #17
Sorry, I looked at your profile and saw it there Tempest Jan 2013 #18
Yeah, I think you looked at the wrong profile. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2013 #20
How come she was not pressured to recluse herself? karynnj Jan 2013 #7
All the important people in town were behind the cover up Tempest Jan 2013 #14
It depends on how many sports they have. JoeyT Jan 2013 #39
You're right. Most could be volunteers. Tempest Jan 2013 #43
she did recuse herself d_r Jan 2013 #31
Thanks karynnj Jan 2013 #38
That town seems to be run by a cesspool of corrupt authorities. Arugula Latte Jan 2013 #33
That's just one of the reasons one person shouldn't hold multiple public positions. SharonAnn Jan 2013 #28
That kid looks like the poster boy for fine young American athletes...only marions ghost Jan 2013 #41
ANd Dad was an ex-Proincipal! And the booing was at their home, elehhhhna Jan 2013 #45
Good. Maybe Michael Nadianos will have his scholarship pulled, too. caseymoz Jan 2013 #6
He's gone. OSU made a statement on FB that he is no longer a student. n/t Tempest Jan 2013 #44
kent's statement is much more serious than ohio state. i was disappointed with ohio. seabeyond Jan 2013 #10
I would be surprised if he showed up for class. He's lawyered up. Tempest Jan 2013 #15
i cannot see him going to school there, either. which may be the way a weak university is dealing seabeyond Jan 2013 #16
Pretty much the consensus, and another piece of disturbing information Tempest Jan 2013 #19
OSU has 53 reported cases of rape. The next nearest university only had 14 seabeyond Jan 2013 #21
OSU has over 56,000 students on the Columbus campus. It's huge. yardwork Jan 2013 #22
The data is from ALL universities across the nation. Tempest Jan 2013 #23
Do you have a link to the data you're talking about? yardwork Jan 2013 #24
Posted in another thread and on OSU's FB page Tempest Jan 2013 #25
Good. Thanks. yardwork Jan 2013 #26
OSU reports he is no longer a student d_r Jan 2013 #30
Yup. I started a thread in GD. n/t Tempest Jan 2013 #32
THANKS, sorry d_r Jan 2013 #34
Not at all a problem. The more it's repeated, the better. n/t Tempest Jan 2013 #36
Good news, but the tip of the iceberg as far as reprecussions should go. demmiblue Jan 2013 #46
Good! get the red out Jan 2013 #29
Especially considering why OSU is under NCAA sanctions. n/t Tempest Jan 2013 #37
Hey Chuck -- Your bright, shiny future is not so bright and shiny anymore. Arugula Latte Jan 2013 #35

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
1. A very wise move on the part of Kent State
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:25 AM
Jan 2013

Last edited Mon Jan 7, 2013, 01:31 PM - Edit history (1)

Because Penn State now shows everyone that what they allow now can come and destroy them decades later. This alone is why the punishment meted out to Penn State is important. The message has to be loud and clear that if caught they will pay dearly. No more slaps on the hand.

Response to Tempest (Reply #4)

avebury

(10,952 posts)
40. OSU has posted on their Face Book page that
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 02:34 PM
Jan 2013

Michael Nodianos is no longer a student there.


The Ohio State University
about an hour ago
Michael Nodianos is no longer a student at The Ohio State University.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
2. I'm glad that Kent State is taking this seriously.
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:46 AM
Jan 2013

Whether Keenan's actions can be proven in a court of law to be criminal, he is not entitled to a scholarship nor is he entitled even to admission to the university. I hope they continue to review all of the evidence and deny him his scholarship as well as admission. I would never want him on the same campus as my teenaged daughter.

I have no confidence in the justice system in this case, so I am quite happy to see civil action occurring, and I'm hoping that these boys, and those who abetted them, are financially ruined for the remainder of their lives. That includes the prosecuting attorney, the sheriff, and all the coaches who turned a blind eye to this. Absent criminal convictions, inflicting financial pain may be the only thing they'll understand.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
3. his mom is the prosecutor
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:49 AM
Jan 2013

who reportedly advised the girl and her family not to press chargers. She is also school board superintendent. Here is mom when son signed scholarship papers-



you get what that's saying right? Rape took place at house of prosecutor who advised family not to press charges.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
11. I laugh every time I see your screen name
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 12:15 PM
Jan 2013

Big Bang Theory is one of my favorite shows.

A big welcome to DU.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
13. BAZINGA!
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 12:21 PM
Jan 2013

30 years with IBM? Wow. You must have known some of the big movers and shakers at IBM in the early years.

20 years in IT, mostly in government, for me. I still remember my first XT system. 128K of RAM and two floppy drives. I later bought a 10MB hard drive that cost me $1,200. Good times.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
17. I'm a little confused...
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 12:34 PM
Jan 2013

I've never worked with IBM. Perhaps you've mistaken me for someone else? Thanks for the welcome, by the way.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
18. Sorry, I looked at your profile and saw it there
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 12:37 PM
Jan 2013

But now it's gone. I guess I looked at the wrong profile.

It's early and I haven't had my coffee. Truthfully, I don't drink coffee and have no excuse for the mistake.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
7. How come she was not pressured to recluse herself?
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:59 AM
Jan 2013

Ignoring that her son was there and it may have been at her house - as that may have not been known, the mere fact that she was school board superintendent of the school of the Football team, some of whose members were charged should have been a reason to argue that she did not have a conflict.

Not to mention, did she ok a party with no adult presence?

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
14. All the important people in town were behind the cover up
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 12:22 PM
Jan 2013

The county sheriff, all the coaches (what high school has 19 coaches?), the prosecutor and the big local radio personality who was also a booster.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
39. It depends on how many sports they have.
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 02:13 PM
Jan 2013

Each sport has a coach, some sports have a coach and an assistant coach, some sports have a coach and position coaches, etc.

Usually all paid from the pittance we allow for education.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
43. You're right. Most could be volunteers.
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 03:21 PM
Jan 2013

But even volunteers have to pass background checks and be approved by school officials.

At least that's the case here in CA.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
31. she did recuse herself
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 01:43 PM
Jan 2013

after two weeks. Two weeks of rounding up cell phones and "searching" them for pictures.

SharonAnn

(13,778 posts)
28. That's just one of the reasons one person shouldn't hold multiple public positions.
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 01:35 PM
Jan 2013

It creates a small cadre who set themselves apart beause they are the "leaders" and the "power brokers".

We have that situation here where the Chief Deputy Sheriff (who really runs the sheriff's office) serves as mayor of the biggest city in the county, the county Roads Commissioner serves on city council of that city, and various School executives or teachers serve on the County Commission.

It gives the opportunity for uchecked favoritism and the ability to carry out agendas against/for specific people in multiple forums.

Think "Boss Hogg" only with County power, County Commission power, and City council power.

We're large enough that there would be many qualified people to fill these positions but there's along heritage of "mill owners", "bankers", and dynasties serving in multiple positions.

More efficient, I guess. Efficient in carrying out their personal agendas.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
41. That kid looks like the poster boy for fine young American athletes...only
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 02:47 PM
Jan 2013

problem is...he sucks where it really counts in life. Ironic.

And his Mom--we see where the F in ethics comes from...she had none to teach.

Shining faces, ugly hearts.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
45. ANd Dad was an ex-Proincipal! And the booing was at their home,
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 03:50 PM
Jan 2013

iirc the father was home at the time per some report.

WTH?

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
6. Good. Maybe Michael Nadianos will have his scholarship pulled, too.
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:53 AM
Jan 2013

He is already at Ohio State. The dean needs to view his 12 minute jolly video boasting and joking about the rape and admitting his involvement. I hope they'll do the right thing and pull his scholarship. That should take the smug, leering smile off his face.

He'll be getting off so light if just that happens to him. He deserves to be in prison for thirty years.
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
10. kent's statement is much more serious than ohio state. i was disappointed with ohio.
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 12:12 PM
Jan 2013

BUT... the students of ohio state are not letting this go.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
15. I would be surprised if he showed up for class. He's lawyered up.
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 12:24 PM
Jan 2013

He knows the video implicates him in several felonies. His goose is cooked.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
16. i cannot see him going to school there, either. which may be the way a weak university is dealing
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 12:29 PM
Jan 2013

with it

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
19. Pretty much the consensus, and another piece of disturbing information
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 12:39 PM
Jan 2013

OSU is expecting him to drop out from the publicity.

OSU's only response was "we sympathize with the victims of rape", while harboring one.


And for the disturbing news: OSU has 53 reported cases of rape. The next nearest university only had 14.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
21. OSU has 53 reported cases of rape. The next nearest university only had 14
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 12:43 PM
Jan 2013

yes. i caught this also. this may be a really good thing for that university and the young women on that campus.

yardwork

(61,703 posts)
22. OSU has over 56,000 students on the Columbus campus. It's huge.
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 01:07 PM
Jan 2013

There is no university in Ohio near the size of Ohio State University, so the number of rapes there compared to the number on other university campuses in Ohio doesn't really give us much information. We would need the rate of rapes per students to know if OSU has more rapes per student than other universities.

http://www.osu.edu/osutoday/stuinfo.php#enroll

In terms of kicking out a student because of a video - I think that that is somewhat problematic, actually. The local authorities in Steubenville seem to have done a very poor job of identifying all the people involved in the assault on the child. Their reports are contradictory, too. The sheriff says he just learned about the video last week, but a news report from last October mentions it. If the investigation had been done properly then this Nadianos probably would have been charged with a crime last fall.

Read the witnesses' testimony here, and the testimony of police detective Riegaud who says that he reviewed the video that Anonymous recently reposted to the web. The authorities had access to that video last fall. Note the date on this article:

http://www.wtov9.com/news/news/local/judge-finds-probable-cause-steubenville-rape-inves/nScLX/

Riegaud testified that he reviewed a video clip posted on YouTube of a conversation about the alleged assault. Those comments included a description of one of the defendants engaged in anal sex with the alleged victim.

"We reviewed that video many times to listen to the conversation that was heard in that video," said Riegaud. "Throughout it you hear statements made. There were specific comments, statements made in that, that served not to arrest, but to look into and to dive deeper into it and that helped to guide us. They weren't the only guide. They were part of it."


edit to correct spelling.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
23. The data is from ALL universities across the nation.
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 01:17 PM
Jan 2013

Not sure where you got the idea it was just Ohio campuses.

The video shows him talking about a crime he didn't report. That is a crime in Ohio and violates OSU's student conduct rules.

Anyway, OSU has posted he's no longer a student there.

yardwork

(61,703 posts)
24. Do you have a link to the data you're talking about?
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 01:24 PM
Jan 2013

I don't understand your post. When you said "the next nearest university" I thought that you mean nearest in terms of geographic proximity to Columbus, Ohio.

OSU is one of the largest university campuses in the nation, if not the largest in terms of students on one campus.

I agree that this video is evidence of a crime committed by the person talking on the video. If you read the article I linked, you will see that the video was discussed during the probable cause hearing last October. Why the police didn't arrest the author of that video right then and there I don't know. It seems clear to me that they covered up a lot of illegal activity and blamed this all on two students. Where are the arrests of parents and coaches who provided alcohol to minors? Where is the arrest of the football booster who has naked photos of underage girls on his blog? Why weren't the phone records of the witnesses who testified that they took multiple photos and videos of the assaults accessed by the police?

The whole thing stinks to high heaven.

Did OSU say anything about this student's status as of today? Classes resumed at OSU today. All the reports I'd seen earlier were that OSU noted that he wasn't "in attendance" since late December. Well, they've been on winter break. Nobody was in attendance since last December. The question is whether or not this student is enrolled today.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
25. Posted in another thread and on OSU's FB page
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 01:29 PM
Jan 2013

OSU is the 6th largest campus. It's still a very high reporting rate.

He's no longer a student according to OSU's facebook page.

demmiblue

(36,885 posts)
46. Good news, but the tip of the iceberg as far as reprecussions should go.
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 05:35 PM
Jan 2013

This is one sick community.

Edited to add: should

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
29. Good!
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 01:41 PM
Jan 2013

It is ironic that there would be no question that a student-athlete's scholarship would come under question if it became known that a university booster had given them money, in my mind these allegations show a much lower moral standard (to say the least) than pay for play.

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