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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:53 AM Jan 2013

"Democrats have finally embraced the Bush tax cuts..."

A Republican from Michigan, Dave Camp, made these comments last night before the vote and Joe Scarborough is repeating them this morning. This seems to be a new talking point for the Repubs.

Furthermore, they say that Democrats vilified and criticized the Bush tax cuts for 10 years and now they come out and vote to make permanent the Bush tax cuts for 98% of the population. Democrats are finally conceding that the Bush taxcuts are good for most of the economy.

If that were true, then why are the Parties so far apart? Shouldn't they be embracing each other as one Party in agreement about taxes? And since tax cuts are the cornerstone of the conservative philosophy, isn't this a victory for the Republican Party?

Can someone define the new, tax-cutting Democratic Party? Was it out of necessity or is it part of a new philosophy, new Democratic Party? Inquiring minds want to know.

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"Democrats have finally embraced the Bush tax cuts..." (Original Post) kentuck Jan 2013 OP
Did you expect a Republican to spin events any other way? JoePhilly Jan 2013 #1
Rejoinder should be "Republicans finally embrace progressive taxation." Skidmore Jan 2013 #2
Simple answer vi5 Jan 2013 #3
Like all GOP talking points, this is mind-numbingly stupid BeyondGeography Jan 2013 #4
And that means it won't resonate with the general public why? Fumesucker Jan 2013 #11
Middle-class tax cuts CJCRANE Jan 2013 #5
It's true, Democrats did for conservatives what Bush couldn't do. bowens43 Jan 2013 #6
Democrats like tax cuts as much as anyone else tularetom Jan 2013 #7
There was no fight in 2001 RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #8
Camp is not being fair Enrique Jan 2013 #9
We are opposed to working class Americans getting tax cuts, now? Odin2005 Jan 2013 #10

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
1. Did you expect a Republican to spin events any other way?
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:57 AM
Jan 2013

As a candidate prior to the 2008 elections, Obama said he was not going to raise taxes on those making under 250k.

Which part of that didn't folks hear?

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
3. Simple answer
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:00 AM
Jan 2013

It's just another move in the ever rightward shift of the Democratic party.

What the guy said was true. Rather than letting them all expire and getting through "The Obama Tax Cuts", they chose (some would say were obsessed with) not letting the Bush Tax Cuts expire on 98% of Americans.

BeyondGeography

(39,382 posts)
4. Like all GOP talking points, this is mind-numbingly stupid
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:01 AM
Jan 2013

We are still in the process of digging out from Bush's economic failures. His tax cuts were one of many things Dems never would have done in the first place. Saying they've now embraced them is like saying the sick man is now at peace with every aspect of his disease.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
11. And that means it won't resonate with the general public why?
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:36 AM
Jan 2013

Mind numbing stupidity hasn't stopped plenty of ideas from being planted in the general public.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
5. Middle-class tax cuts
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:04 AM
Jan 2013

are a kind of stimulus to the consumer economy.

The super-rich do not need tax cuts because they don't spend or invest their surplus cash on Main Street.

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
6. It's true, Democrats did for conservatives what Bush couldn't do.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:05 AM
Jan 2013

It's sad. We should all be paying the tax rate we had during the Clinton years.

We abandoned our principles completely.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
7. Democrats like tax cuts as much as anyone else
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:06 AM
Jan 2013

We're just a bit more realistic when it comes to understanding that if you want wars and shit like that you have to pay for it.

Let's see how this clown feel when the unsequestering begins and the Dems go after his precious defense budget.




RandiFan1290

(6,245 posts)
8. There was no fight in 2001
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:13 AM
Jan 2013

Dems gave up these tax cuts in 4 months after the closest election in history. No deals, no grand bargains.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
9. Camp is not being fair
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:23 AM
Jan 2013

he's right that at one time the Democratic Party was UNANIMOUSLY opposed to all of the Bush tax cuts.

But that was before anyone knew how overwhelmingly successful those tax cuts would turn out to be.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
10. We are opposed to working class Americans getting tax cuts, now?
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:33 AM
Jan 2013

TAX THE FUCKING RICH and slash "defense" spending, don't blame the average Joe for the deficit!

You are sounding like a RW stereotype of Liberals.

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