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Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 08:50 PM Dec 2012

GOP and Feinstein join to fulfill Obama's demand for renewed warrantless eavesdropping

The California Democrat's disgusting rhetoric recalls the worst of Dick Cheney while advancing Obama's agenda

By Glenn Greenwald

December 28, 2012 " The Guardian" -- To this day, many people identify mid-2008 as the time they realized what type of politician Barack Obama actually is. Six months before, when seeking the Democratic nomination, then-Sen. Obama unambiguously vowed that he would filibuster "any bill" that retroactively immunized the telecom industry for having participated in the illegal Bush NSA warrantless eavesdropping program.

But in July 2008, once he had secured the nomination, a bill came before the Senate that did exactly that - the FISA Amendments Act of 2008 - and Obama not only failed to filibuster as promised, but far worse, he voted against the filibuster brought by other Senators, and then voted in favor of enacting the bill itself. That blatant, unblinking violation of his own clear promise - actively supporting a bill he had sworn months earlier he would block from a vote - caused a serious rift even in the middle of an election year between Obama and his own supporters.

Critically, the FISA Amendments Act of 2008 did much more than shield lawbreaking telecoms from all forms of legal accountability. Jointly written by Dick Cheney and then-Senate Intelligence Committee Chair Jay Rockefeller, it also legalized vast new, sweeping and almost certainly unconstitutional forms of warrantless government eavesdropping.

In doing so, the new 2008 law gutted the 30-year-old FISA statute that had been enacted to prevent the decades of severe spying abuses discovered by the mid-1970s Church Committee: by simply barring the government from eavesdropping on the communications of Americans without first obtaining a warrant from a court. Worst of all, the 2008 law legalized most of what Democrats had spent years pretending was such a scandal: the NSA warrantless eavesdropping program secretly implemented by George Bush after the 9/11 attack. In other words, the warrantless eavesdropping "scandal" that led to a Pulitzer Prize for the New York Times reporters who revealed it ended not with investigations or prosecutions for those who illegally spied on Americans, but with the Congressional GOP joining with key Democrats (including Obama) to legalize most of what Bush and Cheney had done. Ever since, the Obama DOJ has invoked secrecy and standing doctrines to prevent any courts from ruling on whether the warrantless eavesdropping powers granted by the 2008 law violate the Constitution.

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GOP and Feinstein join to fulfill Obama's demand for renewed warrantless eavesdropping (Original Post) Unknown Beatle Dec 2012 OP
Obama, and the Democrats, are no friends of the 4th Amendment. villager Dec 2012 #1
Wait until they find out that the policies would apply to all citizens... -..__... Dec 2012 #2
Not sure what 4th Amendment protection has to do with guns... villager Dec 2012 #9
bush/cheney agenda marches on under new management nt msongs Dec 2012 #3
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #4
K&R. MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #5
and we're supposed to trust her on gun control? JohnnyBoots Dec 2012 #6
feinstein is one of the worst democrats. she also pushed for alito and roberts for the supreme court mcgarry50 Dec 2012 #7
It's totally different when our guys do it. Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #8
Greenwald has proven himself to be full of crap 19/20 times Whisp Dec 2012 #10
Onward...LIBERTY!!!!1! Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #11
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
1. Obama, and the Democrats, are no friends of the 4th Amendment.
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 08:55 PM
Dec 2012

Many here are still steeped in denial about that.

 

-..__...

(7,776 posts)
2. Wait until they find out that the policies would apply to all citizens...
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 09:03 PM
Dec 2012

and not just gun owners.

They'll be singing a different tune then.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
9. Not sure what 4th Amendment protection has to do with guns...
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 05:41 PM
Dec 2012

...but some folks miss no chance to venerate/worship their chosen idols, I suppose...

Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

 

mcgarry50

(68 posts)
7. feinstein is one of the worst democrats. she also pushed for alito and roberts for the supreme court
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 11:49 PM
Dec 2012

her and her husband profit on fear, they own a logistics company.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
10. Greenwald has proven himself to be full of crap 19/20 times
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 05:45 PM
Dec 2012

so I doubt very much that he's lucky and right on this on.

mama, Obama is a meany! whaaaaaaaa!

I give it two days and this story will be debunked, disproven and thrown out like the trash it is that he spews. It will be yet another 'Glen makes shit up'.

fuck you, Glen, you malcontented little worm.

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