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smccarter

(145 posts)
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 03:35 PM Dec 2012

News from The Ministry of Truth - 1984

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.

I finally purchased George Orwells 1984. I've been meaning to for several months now, but just haven't gotten around to it. When I read it in school, the parallel leaned toward communism and the Soviet Union. What has brought me to read it again is the current situation in our country. I believe I'll find deeper meaning at 48 than I did at 16.

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News from The Ministry of Truth - 1984 (Original Post) smccarter Dec 2012 OP
it is oddoneout Dec 2012 #1
Orwell was prophetic.. Permanut Dec 2012 #2
"Tax Equity Fiscal Responsibility Act"...."Patriot Act"..... lastlib Dec 2012 #5
I think it was called the "Clear Skies Initiative." Aristus Dec 2012 #7
Clear Skies Initiative.. Permanut Dec 2012 #9
I read it around age 9 and it freaked me out LiberalEsto Dec 2012 #3
USA 2012 is a cross of "1984" with "Brave New World", and a lot of "Brazil" weirdness leveymg Dec 2012 #4
More of a cross of 1984, Idiocracy, and Deliverance Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #12
It was supposed to be a WARNING, not a MISSION STATEMENT!! lastlib Dec 2012 #6
A favorite book of mine. LeftofObama Dec 2012 #8
.. Permanut Dec 2012 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author smccarter Dec 2012 #13
Up from 3 grams yesterday... smccarter Dec 2012 #14
More similarities bongbong Dec 2012 #11
Yep. ElboRuum Dec 2012 #15
 

oddoneout

(47 posts)
1. it is
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 03:37 PM
Dec 2012

a great book, and has many parallels to our current situation...not as extreme of course. Animal farm is also not bad.

lastlib

(23,287 posts)
5. "Tax Equity Fiscal Responsibility Act"...."Patriot Act".....
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 03:58 PM
Dec 2012

Republicans have certainly mastered the art of Newspeak!!

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
7. I think it was called the "Clear Skies Initiative."
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 04:06 PM
Dec 2012

The Clean Air Act was passed in 1963, with several subsequent amendments, and contributed significantly to cleaner air, and better respiratory health across the nation. The "Clear Skies Initiative" was basically a repeal of clean air policies in order to boost profits for the corporations that pollute the most. The text of the law was drafted by paid lobbyists of those same companies.

Permanut

(5,637 posts)
9. Clear Skies Initiative..
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 04:32 PM
Dec 2012

is even more Orwellian. Thanks for the update, I was relying on memory, which is dangerous at my age.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
3. I read it around age 9 and it freaked me out
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 03:42 PM
Dec 2012

We were visiting some relatives who had a daughter in high school. I was bored with the adults' conversation, which was mostly in German, and went upstairs to hang out in the daughter's room. Saw the book and started reading. I'm a fast reader and it was a very long visit - late into the night. I think I finished the book. It gave me nightmares.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
4. USA 2012 is a cross of "1984" with "Brave New World", and a lot of "Brazil" weirdness
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 03:52 PM
Dec 2012

Last edited Thu Dec 27, 2012, 04:30 PM - Edit history (1)

thrown into the pot.

From the late 1960s - 2001, most of the social control aspects were more of the soft power type that Huxley wrote about (sex & drugs & rock & roll).

After 9/11, things got a lot meaner, and the emphasis shifted to all-seeing surveillance, control over media, torture, and rising state violence that Orwell described so graphically.

Mash them together with hallucinatory absurdity, and you get "Brazil", probably the most accurate and subversive portrayal of post-modern dystopia. Certainly the funniest.


LeftofObama

(4,243 posts)
8. A favorite book of mine.
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 04:12 PM
Dec 2012

And for posting about it you may increase your chocolate ration to 2 grams per month!

Response to LeftofObama (Reply #8)

ElboRuum

(4,717 posts)
15. Yep.
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 10:41 PM
Dec 2012

The fact is that 1984 was a cautionary tale. One thing I've always noted about cautionary tales is that there are always those who see it not as a cautionary tale but as a really spiffy idea.

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